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carlfloydfan
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posted October 03, 2006 12:43 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
me and my gf have this composite. now maybe astrology has taught me to do this, or maybe I would have eventually become this way, but I address any possible problems head on, as to not be naive or live in a dream world. I find the best relationships have that quality in fact. we are in a distance relationship now and of course I told her "this will not be easy, it will be tough" and all that ..and we still want this, very much!! we love each other!!! we come from different backgrounds and have had some lively debates about that and other things (religion, education) and realize they can occur and know there will be bumps in the road, but we are extremly confident and realize any problems we have are very minor. we are two very easy going folks. anywho, here is the composite between two loves:

midpoint method
Sun Aquarius in house 10
Moon Cancer in house 2
Mercury Aquarius in house 10
Venus Aquarius in house 10
Mars Pisces in house 11
Jupiter Capricorn in house 9
Saturn Scorpio in house 7
Uranus Sagittarius in house 8
Neptune Capricorn end of house 8
Pluto Scorpio in house 7
True Node Taurus in house 1
Planets at the end of a house are interpreted in the next house.

HOUSE POSITIONS (Placidus)
Ascendant Aries 29°15'05
2nd House Gemini 0°46'45
3rd House Cancer 2°37'33
Imum Coeli Leo 2°42'58
5th House Virgo 3°19'51
6th House Libra 2°39'40
Descendant Libra 29°15'05
8th House Sagittarius 0°46'45
9th House Capricorn 2°37'33
Medium Coeli Aquarius 2°42'58
11th House Pisces 3°19'51
12th House Aries 2°39'40

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carlfloydfan
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posted October 06, 2006 02:04 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i think its rather interesting as I have no aquarius (besides an east point) and my gf has only one aquarius (in mars or jupiter, one of those two). so I wonder what that means when there is a lot combined. the cancer moon certianlly seems to bring out strong emotions, easy to act naturally on. and many of the inner planets are in house 10, adding a very practical nature to the relationship.

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carlfloydfan
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posted October 10, 2006 11:09 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
bump..?

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posted October 10, 2006 11:15 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sometimes we want to see things so badly we believe theyre there...

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"WHATEVER the soul longs for, WILL be attained by the spirit"

"Love knows not its own depth until the hour of separation"

-Khalil Gibran

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carlfloydfan
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posted October 10, 2006 11:29 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Gooberzlostlovefound
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posted October 11, 2006 12:06 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi carl

What jumped out at me is Saturn and Pluto in the the 7th house of intimacy and relationships. That is very "heavy." I think this is (and will continue to be) a very transformative relationship for both of you. Uranus and Neptune in the 8th, also. Wow...

Mars in the 11th makes me a little nervous, as it would possibly indicate fights or maybe a difficult transition from lovers to friends, if need be.....? (Not sure, just a guess)

Moon in the 2nd...shared values?

Lots of planets in the 10th....you two could have similar goals in life and accomplish quite a bit together, eh?

Interesting composite.

It's obvious you really care for her.....nice to see

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carlfloydfan
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posted October 11, 2006 12:20 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well we have fights that stem from being from different cultures. but once I go to her place I believe some of that will certiantly die down and what remains will probably be just debate like my countries education vs. hers in france and their education and what, if anything, god is - those kinds that we have even now.

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Gooberzlostlovefound
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posted October 11, 2006 12:37 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know this may be jumping ahead quite a bit, but where do both of you hope to live after college and whatnot? Do you think she would be willing to live in the US or vice versa, you in Europe? Just curious. (I know you're both really young but hey you never know!)

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carlfloydfan
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posted October 11, 2006 01:00 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ohh this is a very deep relationship indeed, and we have planned our lives with the other in mind. if money is not an issue and I can get my visa I would be in europe in a heartbeat and would love to live in france with her. though she'd have an easier time coming here I am sure. however, money is an issue (usa colleges, psssh, BS fin. aid) and I hear french passports are very tough to get. but we believe in this and want to find a way.

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MUSTANG
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posted October 11, 2006 11:54 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You have pluto and saturn in the 7th. This would seem to mean that there could be restrictions on your relationahip (saturn) and also power, karmic and transformational work at play (pluto).

All the planets in the 10th could indicate competition and reputation factors underlying issues and arguments in the relationship on a subconscious level. Maybe you both feel you need to outdo one another at times.

The urnaus and neptune in the 8th indicates illusion, or delusion, if not controlled; but on the positive side, the neptune in the 8th could indicate a dreamy, magical quality - especially when it comes to sex. With the uranus in the 8th, the sex should be exciting, but maybe a bit unpredictable and plagued by dry spells alternating with a lot of frequency. The 8th with neptune and uranus also could indicate a karmic type relationship, much like the pluto and saturn in the 7th.

Jupiter in the 9th could mean education in a foreign land, which it seems is the case from what you state.

Can you list your aspects?

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Gooberzlostlovefound
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posted October 11, 2006 01:52 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yes aspects would help a lot

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posted October 11, 2006 02:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can't tell what's up. There is no listing of the degrees that the planets are in,and so I can't tell what the aspects are.

A lot of astrologers don't put much emphasis on planet in sign placements in composite but they do put much emphasis on the house placement. The aspects are very important.

Saturn in 7th can definitely indicate delays,restrictions,limitations in relationship. It could also mean a relationship that's mature,serious,stable...especially as time passes.

8th house also has to do with money...shared money,finances,resources.

I can't see the aspects to those planets in 8th house. If there are stressful aspects to the planets in 8th house, make sure that you take care of your money well,stay away from debt...if you are,make sure that you take care of it. Pay your taxes. Most of all,support each other.


8th house is very misunderstood house. It's very psychological too...associated with Scorpio and naturally ruled by 8th house.

Shared resources also fall within the Eighth House: inheritance, alimony, taxes, insurance, support from another. Financial support as well as spiritual, emotional and physical support are addressed by this House. While our relationships share many of the aforementioned things, they also have their own dynamics and grow from within (we grow through our sexuality as well as through other more tangible means). That said, much as our relationships are expansive, they also have certain constraints, many which are placed on them by society. Again, taxes, alimony and the joint nature of assets come to mind. Yes, with every opportunity we have, we may face a restriction along with it. Once again, death and rebirth.

http://www.astrology.com/aboutastrology/interpreting/houses/house8.html

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carlfloydfan
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posted October 12, 2006 12:45 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would say you guys are about 60% (or a little more) right, which is not bad at all, but maybe the chart helps.

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wilsontc
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posted October 12, 2006 05:26 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
fan,

Thanks for posting the chart. At the risk of being one of those astrologers who uses signs in composite charts , I think there is a challenge to this relationship since so much of the energy is in the outer world (i.e., at the top of the chart) and focused on being "friends" (Aquarius, close but not TOO close). In addition, there is a "war" going on between structure (Capricorn) modifying expansion Jupiter combined with (conjunct) freedom (Aquarius, the urge to be "free", another side of close but not TOO close). Since Aquarius modifies Venus (relationships), this need for personal space may dominate the relationship.

Relating,

Tim

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posted October 12, 2006 05:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The main challenge I feel is that Moon in Cancer in 2nd(near 3rd house cusp),Mars in Pisces in 11th,Neptune in Sagittarius in 8th(near 8th house cusp) t-square. I feel that there is a strong possibility that there can be feelings that are so idealistic that they can actually be illusive and can lead deception,confusion. One might even feel the other is wonderful and be so infatuated with them while the other doesn't feel the same way which can leave the infatuated person disillusioned and feeling a victim who wants to escape from the harshness of the other person. I feel that you have to make sure that you understand each other and don't see each other rose-colored glasses.You have to make sure that you two know what you want and don't sacrifice your desires,needs,beliefs to make the other happy if you are not happy with how things are. Don't be a martyr in this relationship. Also avoid escapism. Make sure that you are honest with each other about how your feeling..especially any anger....this configuration can be passive-aggressive feelings. If any of you have problems,support each other but don't enable...stay away from codependency. Make sure that there is equality in the relationship. If you either of you is not happy with the relationship,talk to each other and try to work it out. If the relationship is so bad that it can't be worked out, don't stay in it in fear of hurting the other or feeling that you are nothing without the other. Neptune is about dissolving boundares...and Neptune in Synastry and Composite can be about merging as one and can lose sense of self. Neptune is the planet of addictions. Some people can be addicted to love just like some can be obsessed with love. The challenge of that configuration is strongly needing to keep your feet on the ground,head out of the clouds,and keeping it real and needing to be honest and direct with your feelings,beliefs, actions. If you don't,there can be a lot of misunderstandings,confusion,deception,and escapism. Definitely have to make sure that your friends are worth trusting too.


The good side of this configuration is there can be inspiration,creative,spirituality,and fighting for your ideals and what you believe in. There can be empathy and sensitivity to each other. The sex can be like you are on cloud 9. Inspired sexual desire. Spiritual sex...like in Tantra or Kama sutra.

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carlfloydfan
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posted October 12, 2006 06:30 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
many many many thanks to you all for helping me understand my composite and in turn, understand the basics of composites in general. That was one area i could not figure out on my own (unlike other areas where i could). I really didn't know anything about composites before but now I am starting to think synstry is better. success rate even after the chart is only about 60% still. synastry on the other hand, is..almost 90%. The issue of friends and space is pointless for one, as we are two lovers very much in love. though I can see others liking composites more than synastry and having a better success rate compared to syn. so it depends on the person I would guess. I know my friend annie very much disagreed with her natal chart for example, but she was suprised how spot on it was for others. so I will keep an open mind about other composites like she does for NC.

I really really appreciate you guys teaching me about the composite though, at least a little. I don't think I will explore it to much more. synastry really hit me right off the bat as being pretty spot on, where as the composite is..one comment is right..the next off..the next right..off..off..right kind of thing. and i understand it is all complex.

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posted October 12, 2006 07:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

You never know how the composite works until you two live with each other. After all,moon has to do with domestic stuff too. There could be issues that arise while living together. The t-square involving the moon can indicate domestic issues. You two definitely don't live together. You have to keep that in mind.

When you live together and stay together for some time, then you can really notice how the composite plays out.

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posted October 12, 2006 08:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Taurus80     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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william
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posted October 12, 2006 09:11 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hey carl.
sun/venus conjunction is one of best aspect to have in a composite as it shows there is a real sense of love between the two of you.this aspect is sextile to uranus .so that may help in the here now not here vib you say you have.this sextile gives a sense of uniqueness to the relationship.there is a great sex/love vib but there is also spark,like the intensity of the love will not fade.and in yoiur situaiton memory is important.mars is sextile to jupiter which could mean that longterm plans could happen.it shows that economis situation around the relationship wouldbe solid.actually it seems that there may be a great accumalation of cash around this relationship.on the downside there is pluto square mercury,never good for openess,can indicate emotional issues making openess difficult.moon opposed to neptune,can indicate that she is not upfront about very thing,could indicate that she is a bit unsure of her true feeling.it looks good but the reality of not being together is obviously not good.but the love is real.
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carlfloydfan
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posted October 13, 2006 12:06 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well we have lived together -- twice. maybe not as long as you would like...but the first time for a week in my dorm room and the second for 3 and a half weeks in my own apartment, just us. we did great. she pointed out some ways in which i could be more efficient and I accepted them.

william, I would say your critique is opposite. she is verrrry open. she will feel free to cry in front of me. she is very open. she cries a lot just before we are about to leave, i have never seen someone so shook up. I hide my emotions more in fact, but she realizes that. I remember her saying something like " i know you hide your emotions..." as if she was speaking to a scorpio (which I am) even though she DOES NOT believe in astrology. I remember this one chart on astro.com that ranks the strongest sign influences in your chart and hers is scorpio, so she may have some experience with dealing with emotional depth, which has appeared evident thus far.

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posted October 13, 2006 12:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

a week and even 3 weeks....that's not that long. that's like a honeymoon.

Now..6 months,a year,2 years...that's something....the honeymoon is definitely over after that, then you face the reality with the issues that it might have which can either make or break you.....this definitely reflected by that Moon,Mars,Neptune t-square. That's a very difficult configuration. I am not into sugarcoating as an astrologer. I am just telling you like it is...with t-squares,you learn the hard way. That's with any t-square. I definitely learned the lessons of life hard way with my own Moon,Saturn,Jupiter-Neptune t-square...it seems to reflect the lessons of my master number birthday number 29 which is said to be the number of Job.

but yeah...you should really beware of the challenges...don't just look at everything is rosy.......like I said before,1 week...3 weeks is honeymoon...months go by,and it's different from the honeymoon

Then you can really see what's going on..the longer you live together, the more the issues will arise. You have the free will to choose to deal with those issues and resolve them or to let them overcome you and make you want to give up.


I wish you the best of luck.


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carlfloydfan
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posted October 13, 2006 02:51 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
okay! well we shall see in due time!! it shall be an exciting process!

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posted October 13, 2006 05:36 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
we don't really look at our relationship through rose colored glasses, as you say. we make any possible problems well known, as i said earlier, so we can do the opposite and not live in a delusional world. its naive to think anything in life is honey moon like, unless it actually is an after marriage honey moon.

as far as bills, its a pretty simple approach. we both believe in the 50/50 approach, working our jobs and helping out when needed if one of us is having trouble. we have done it already and its pointless to keep track of who did what, it basically balances out in the end. bills aren't really that complicated..you get your rent, electricty, gas, food...its really just being effecient and non wasterful more than anything. and I mean, we have split at least the grocery bill for those 3-4 weeks..plus dishes and cleaning and cooking all shared..without thinking, just naturally. I don't see bills as being a huge deal as long as you are efficient and hard working and plan ahead..and we have planned ahead. we plan to be effiencient and split everything 50/50. having an extra person actually makes it easier in fact. my rent which I afford alone would split in half which alone, is awesome.

if the love is there and the naivity addressed, the values and religion shared or understood and the growth evident and consistent with trust, sincirity understanding and hardwork mixed in, bills aren't to big of a deal anymore. that will work out.
we lived together and that is huge. a lot of couples are at each others throat after a weekend. 4 total weeks thus far is certiantly enough to learn natural habits..which we have learned as well. granted there still is a lot to learn I realize that.

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posted October 13, 2006 09:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I was just warning you about the challenges of the Moon,Mars,Neptune t-square. It is a very challenging configuration. The issues will tend to arise after living together for a long time. I was pointing out that it calls for you to be realistic about the relationship and not to be caught up in fantasy as well as being honest with each other and selves and avoid deception from others. That's all. Challenging Neptune aspects always indicate some type of confusion,deception,and/or illusion or they wouldn't appear in a chart.

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posted October 13, 2006 10:11 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think sometimes outsiders who are viewing a couple's relationship get caught up in: "will their relationship last?"

I think it's good to be little skeptical. Because the truth is, many relationships come and go throughout life. Very few last "forever."

But...that being said....those that end are not bad or pointless or somehow inferior.

It's all about learning and growing...

just some thoughts,
GLLF

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