posted October 07, 2006 11:38 AM              

Have recently had cause to rethink my other half's time of birth due to something his mum and dad said - they'd originally said "he was born in time for the pubs opening" (which in the UK in 1966 was 11am) and his dad had said that it was about half an hour before.

I'd thought that was a bit odd seeing as you wouldn't go through the excitement and nervousness of your son's birth only to see him pop into the world and leave almost immediately to go round for a pint?!! His mum said she thinks it was about an hour before which would put him at around 9.55 - 10am perhaps.

That places his ascendant right on the cusp of Pisces and Aries which now makes an awful lot of sense to me. He's a very placid and dreamy soul a lot of the time, fascinated by the occult and other and only occassionally do I hear him boast or embody the whole "me first" thing of Aries - I do find that cute!

But the main thing I noticed when I looked at this new chart was that he has nothing in his 7th house. I wondered what that means... can anyone enlighten me?

posted October 07, 2006 11:45 AM              

Him

Planetary positionsplanet sign degree motion
Sun Aquarius 1°56'01 in house 11 direct
Moon Aquarius 10°10'55 end of house 11 direct
Mercury Capricorn 22°18'57 in house 11 direct
Venus Aquarius 8°20'39 end of house 11 retrograde
Mars Aquarius 23°46'29 in house 12 direct
Jupiter Gemini 22°11'40 in house 3 retrograde
Saturn Pisces 14°21'35 in house 12 direct
Uranus Virgo 19°16'24 in house 6 retrograde
Neptune Scorpio 21°54'28 in house 8 direct
Pluto Virgo 18°11'51 in house 6 retrograde
True Node Gemini 2°55'23 in house 2 retrograde
Planets at the end of a house are interpreted in the next house.

House positions (Placidus)Ascendant Pisces 28°42'17
2nd House Taurus 18°23'37
3rd House Gemini 12°03'37
Imum Coeli Gemini 29°32'33
5th House Cancer 16°56'02
6th House Leo 10°12'28
Descendant Virgo 28°42'17
8th House Scorpio 18°23'37
9th House Sagittarius 12°03'37
Medium Coeli Sagittarius 29°32'33
11th House Capricorn 16°56'02
12th House Aquarius 10°12'28

Me

Planetary positions planet sign degree motion
Sun Libra 11°33'36 in house 4 direct
Moon Capricorn 17°04'29 in house 6 direct
Mercury Scorpio 2°56'06 end of house 4 direct
Venus Scorpio 24°59'57 in house 5 direct
Mars Taurus 7°37'09 in house 11 retrograde
Jupiter Aquarius 2°21'25 in house 7 direct
Saturn Cancer 4°36'51 in house 12 direct
Uranus Libra 22°40'51 in house 4 direct
Neptune Sagittarius 5°18'32 in house 5 direct
Pluto Libra 4°34'06 in house 4 direct
True Node Capricorn 2°19'47 in house 6 retrograde
Planets at the end of a house are interpreted in the next house.

House positions (Placidus)Ascendant Cancer 23°00'30
2nd House Leo 9°01'44
3rd House Leo 28°32'46
Imum Coeli Virgo 25°12'59
5th House Scorpio 3°11'15
6th House Sagittarius 17°43'19
Descendant Capricorn 23°00'30
8th House Aquarius 9°01'44
9th House Aquarius 28°32'46
Medium Coeli Pisces 25°12'59
11th House Taurus 3°11'15
12th House Gemini 17°43'19

posted October 07, 2006 12:28 PM            

Here's a string and links on Empty Houses: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/010048.html
With (one of) the 7th house rulers (Venus) in XI and conjunct his Moon (see http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/moonvenusaspects.html ) there's the potential for events in the 7th, especially when Moon/Venus are triggered by transits. Gotta run, hon -- I'll try to get back to this later.

posted October 07, 2006 01:36 PM              

Thanks so much for your lovely reply! Found that info very useful on the other thread - particularly this bit...

quote:

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Strictly speaking it is incorrect to say that a house is empty. Even though there may be no planets in that house, there is still a sign (or signs) placed there which will influence that sphere of experience. Thus, the first step in interpreting what is happening in an untenanted house is to relate the qualities of the sign or signs found there to the area of life associated with the house in quesiton. The second step is to refer to the planet which rules the sign on the cusp of the ‘empty’ house. What house is the ruling planet in? What sign is the ruling planet in? How is the ruling planet aspected? In this way, we glean a great deal of information about the house in question. The third step is to examine the planet which rules any other signs found in that house (not just the sign on the cusp). Where is that planet by house, sign and aspect?

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So the sign that is on the cusp of his 7th house is Virgo. He has his Uranus and Pluto in Virgo so I wonder if that means that relationships are for him, full of new ideas, forward thinking and above all transformational? And re the Virgo influence, I would then guess that he examines and analyses his relationships very closely and clinically, picking each little detail to pieces and putting it under the mental microscope. Am I on the right track with that sort of reasoning or am I just clutching at straws?

And then I suppose I'd need to look at Mercury (being Virgo's ruler) - he has his Mercury in Capricorn in the 11th house. Friendship is definitely a strong focus in his life and so I would imagine it's important to him that his relationships are first and foremost friendships, which is entirely in keeping with his Aqua Sun.

The Capricornian influence is very noticeable funnily enough - the way he comminicates feelings especially is extremely tight lipped and guarded and almost 'formal' at times. It makes me giggle sometimes and at others when my Merc Scorpio is desperate for some passionate romance, it drives me mad, however I do understand him - must be my Cap Moon

posted October 07, 2006 06:12 PM              

Wow so you're a 4th Oct gal as well are you libraschoice?? Happy belated birthday hon and hope you had a good day Yep it is for the most part a stress-free relationship - the only stress is introduced by the fact that we have such markedly different ways of expressing our feelings and sometimes that can make for misunderstandings and hurt feelings on my part. But on the whole, it's lovely.

Hi Kamilla
Thanks for that, that made me glow Forgive me because I'm still learning so much, but why do you particularly like the fact that his 7th falls into my 4th/5th?