posted October 07, 2006 09:02 PM              

i have a grand trine in pluto in scorpio in the 2nd trine mercury in pisces in the 5th trine my midheaven in cancer, which is trine with pluto.

that grand trine is also a kite, with neptune in capricorn in the 4th house sextile mercury and pluto.

posted October 08, 2006 08:36 PM              

However, take all that "grand trines are lazy" talk with a grain of salt. It's often written by superficial observers, or worst, people parroting what they read somewhere else.

Truth is grand trine are very powerful, and yes they may be difficult to express. The rason isn't laziness, but but it gives the collective energies an insular, self-contained manner of expression. Many grand trine native are very self-relient or detached (or try to be) for this reason. We often go about our lives having an intense inner lives but not feeling the pressing need to express these energies in a more outward fashion. We have to make the choice to do that.

posted October 09, 2006 11:48 PM              

I have a grand trine/kite within my chart, balanced by a double set square.

The grand trine is Venus Aries, Neptune Sag, Saturne Leo, and the kite is Pluto in Libra.

I see the energy of a grand trine, being like an autobarn. The energy flows easily, nothing blocking the progress. The trouble can start when it goes too fast, and possbily spins out of control. Usually though there is another planet forming a square aspect to one of the planets in the grand trine, that acts as an ancor.

I think the planets involved form important information about the grand trine (a trine by the power of 3). Where there is a kite pattern, the axis of opposite signs acts as an axis, which can be difficult, but actually aids in a grounding force. Again depends on the planets (and houses) involved.

A very powerful aspect, where the 'lazy' tag comes from is where a chart has no (or very few) negative aspects (squares or oppositions), or hard placements (eg Mars in Libra, Saturn in 1st house etc).

posted October 14, 2006 03:00 PM              

Moon 6 Gem 57
N. Node 10 Leo 57
Mercury 6 Aqu 28
MC 18 Ari 10
Mars 13 Aqu 02
Jupiter 10 Lib 17
Saturn 9 Lib 47
Uranus 29 Sco 07
Neptune 23 Sag 36

posted January 15, 2014 10:55 PM            

Does anyone know when looking at chart pattern formations how small the orb has to be? And if both sides of one axis can be including in forming a pattern? What about out of sign?

For example;
In synastry

Libra 29 Sun
Cancer 0 Vertex
Pisces 3 Nadir
- this example has one out of sign planet and an orb of 4 degrees. Two axis points that would form two different kites (if they can be included). Actually my Jupiter at 29 Aries would form a star..I guess.

Oh! To reference back to OP's topic. I know I do have a Earth Trine in Earth Houses. I heard its suppose to "bring an abundance of wealth" so far, no luck. I agree with it being a type of energy we dont know how to access, that or the theory that things come so easy that we dont put in the effort to make them worth.

At best I think a water trine would aid to the person having intuitive/psychic abilities. Or make a good counselor.