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tinasparkle
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posted October 19, 2006 05:31 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi all,

I am trying to get some kind of insight into my fella's probable behavior in the bedroom. I read an interesting article about Mars and Venus placement, but his Mars and Venus are so drastically different I can't make heads or tails of it. It the house palcement significant. Any help would be appreciated.

Him:
Venus Virgo 08° 34' 11th House
Mars Scorpio 00° 51' 1st House

Me:
Venus Scorpio 07° 27' 4th House
Mars Sagittarius 21° 13' 6th House

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neptune5
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posted October 19, 2006 05:40 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well your off to a good start knowing the Venus & Mars, but why don't you calculate his Eros and psyche and check the aspects between his Venus, Mars, Psyche, & Eros. Also check to see if their are any aspects with Venus & Mars to the AC. And check to see what lies in the 8th house and what aspects are sprouting from it. That would be a good idea.

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posted October 19, 2006 05:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus in Virgo is kinky- even if they don't quite come across as such. Combine that with the "still waters run deep" Scorp mars and you have kink plus stamina which makes for a long night

My husband has Venus in Virgo and Mars in Taurus (Scorp and Virgo goes well, as do Taurus and Virgo). Mars in Taurus also equals MUCHO stamina (hee hee) maybe it has something to do with the "fixed" nature of the sign LOL....

The issue the two of you may have- concerns your Mars in Sagittarius squaring his Venus in Virgo. He may see you as a bit too aggressive at times or he may like that domination- yet his Mars in Scorp might not like giving up the control LOL...

I have Venus in Sagittarius squaring my hubby's Venus in Virgo- we actually get along quite well in the sexual arena (as well as in all arena's) even with that square. It adds some spice. Like Mars in Scorp, Mars in Taurus savors each and every moment in bed (and when combined with the passionate Leo Sun and inventive Venus in Virgo.. well, no complaints from this Saggie).

But, if your man's sexual behaviour feels - abnormal, I would look at his Venus - Saturn aspect. I was one with a man that had Venus conjunct Saturn in Cancer. He also had a T-square involving that Venus / Saturn causing him to have quite the deranged view of sex and several disgusting habits that I found to be deal breakers.

Neptune,

I am not much into asteroids just as I am not much into progressions. Maybe I am old school in that I look at the basic chart and view the other planets as "spice". They add flavor to the picture but they are not the be all end all. I am fully my Venus in Sag and I see Bear as being very Venus in Virgo- we are all a sum of our parts, but I believe the Sun is still center that all planets revolve around

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tinasparkle
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posted October 19, 2006 06:24 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Neptune5,

Thanks, I will check into it.

Pidaua,

Wow, this could be interesting. As far as the possibility of his being turned off by my being aggressive, I don't think that will be a problem. It seems that my Sag presents itself as more coquette than aggressor.A very bawdy part of my personality has come out since I met him. I think it is that he makes me feel very safe. He seems to dig that "Marilyn Monroe" part of me and otherwise,I tend to perfer a guy to take charge. Not be a bully, just be "the man" and take me by the hand a bit. So I think this is promising. Thanks.

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pidaua
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posted October 19, 2006 06:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, if he is anything like my Bear (Hubby) then you are going to be in for a big treat .... Anyone that can make you feel at ease in the bed department is wonderful and I think it takes a special combination. I would also think that your Venus in Scorpio appreciates his Mars in Scorp (not to mention he finds you incredibly attractive) ....

Bawdy is yummy, but if you start to feel that there are some areas that bother you, be sure to let him know. I would check that Venus / Saturn aspect, but I think he sounds like a great catch

Have fun... (evil laugh)

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tinasparkle
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posted October 19, 2006 06:54 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Novice here, I don't think he has Venus conjunct Saturn. Is that right? Thanks.

This is his chart:

Sun Cancer 28° 15' 10th House
Moon Capricorn 29° 27' 4th House
Mercury Cancer 12° 20' 9th House
Venus Virgo 08° 34' 11th House
Mars Scorpio 00° 51' 1st House
Jupiter Leo 11° 36' 10th House
Saturn Aries 12° 33' 6th House
Uranus Virgo 21° 30' 11th House
Neptune Scorpio 21° 35' 2nd House
Pluto Virgo 18° 40' 11th House

House Positions
Ascendant Libra 21° 14'
2nd House Scorpio 18° 38'
3rd House Sagittarius 20° 27'
4th House Capricorn 25° 19'
5th House Aquarius 28° 50'
6th House Pisces 27° 39'
7th House Aries 21° 14'
8th House Taurus 18° 38'
9th House Gemini 20° 27'
Midheaven Cancer 25° 19'
11th House Leo 28° 50'
12th House Virgo 27° 39'

Major Aspects
Sun Opposition Moon 01° 11'
Sun Square Mars 02° 36'
Sun Trine Neptune 06° 40'
Moon Square Mars 01° 25'
Mercury Sextile Venus 03° 46'
Mercury Square Saturn 00° 13'
Jupiter Trine Saturn 00° 57'
Uranus Sextile Neptune 00° 06'
Uranus Conjunction Pluto 02° 49'
Neptune Sextile Pluto

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posted October 19, 2006 08:55 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He has Venus quiniux Saturn. Which can be like a square, its still an awkward position.

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tinasparkle
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posted October 19, 2006 09:00 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
awkward how exactly?

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posted October 20, 2006 05:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for taurus/gemini cusp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What would be an indication of prudishness? I ask for a reason!

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sue g
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posted October 20, 2006 05:18 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus in Virgo Kinky???...haha....I never heard that before...

Maybe I am mistaken, but I thought this placement would be very shy and cautious in the area of sex...dedicated and reliable maybe...but kinky. I thought that was more to do with Mars in Aqua or maybe Scorpio influences...

Yes....No.....?

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posted October 20, 2006 05:20 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
its like a square but its not as potent.

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posted October 20, 2006 07:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for taurus/gemini cusp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I forgot to add that he has a virgo ascendant!!!!! Mars in Taurus. It could be hygiene related. A symptom of his OCD maybe?!

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illusions_fool
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posted October 20, 2006 11:04 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can you take your own Venus and Mars to find out what you yourself would be like in the bedroom? For someone inexperienced like me who's never even had a boyfriend, because I'm curious honestly.

~Rebekka

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neptune5
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posted October 20, 2006 03:27 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually, by fact, Eros in Virgo(one of my 1st house positions) is kinky. Venus in Virgo promotes scandal.

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pidaua
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posted October 23, 2006 04:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Virgo- is the sign of observation and assimilation. I think most Virgo Sun's and Venus in Virgo would be offended at the perpetuation of the stereotype of being "fussy, shy and quiet"

These men are anything BUT- especially a Venus in Virgo type.

I don't want to get to bawdy, but one should read "sextrology" and you'll have a clue about Venus in Virgo. I'm married to one, dated one and divorced a Virgo.

Does that mean a Venus in Virgo kink is on par with say someone that has Venus opposed Uranus? Nope, they are probably not going to be into self-anal exploration or playing with feces. They aren't "Deviants" but they will explore and decide something is enjoyed or not. Then again, unlike some mislabled "sexual" signs they actually live the term instead of just being the "myth".

I won't completely get into details because of the ages of people on here and due to my own privacy, but I can vouch for the kink.

One thing to keep in mind- one person's kink is another's vanilla. Last time I checked the definition for kinky included a bizarre taste for sexual practices - again- that depends on the person doing the evaluated. Someone that likes to be tied up, whipped and peed on, will most likely see sex outdoors in an area where one could get caught as being "vanilla".


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illusions_fool
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posted October 23, 2006 05:38 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Eros in Capricorn, how boring! lol.

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Lady Macbeth
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posted October 23, 2006 05:46 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Speaking as someone with Venus in Virgo and who has been involved romantically with two other folks with Venus in Virgo...we are NOT kinky. Not prudish but definitely not kinky. I'd look to Venus square Uranus for that.

Venus in Virgo likes everything clean. Showers are nice. Fresh white 800 count thread linens are ideal...

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tinasparkle
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posted October 23, 2006 05:56 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have noticed that my Venus in Virgo fellow doesn't like to be dirty. It's not like he minds if I am, but if we have been out in the garden or it's Saturday morning and he hasn't had a shower yet, it really bothers him. We haven't slept together yet, but I would imagine that this would transfer into the bedroom. Venus in Virgos aren't freaky clean though,right. I once new a guy--we DID NOT date_--who as really into cleanliness and he had high colonics all the time and when he dated a woman I knew, she said he was really weird about cleanliness and sex. I think he must have just been odd, not Venus in Virgo.

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pidaua
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posted October 23, 2006 07:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow.. then maybe I just bring out the best in Venus in Virgo? Mine has a kink side to him but doesn't have any afflictions to his Venus in Virgo. Is he clean? Yes, he loves to fold his clothes or hang them up. He is certainly not into dirt at all as far as a woman being "earthy".

I have Pluto and Ascendant in Virgo, so I like things clean as well and can't stand the "hairy" "smelly" thing in any way shape or form.

One thing ladies... let's not get off track here- I was referring to Venus in Virgo for those people that have a twig and berries attached to the mid portion- not females. I could careless about the anal retentiveness of a Venus in Virgo female.

In the sense a Venus in Sag male is going to be different than I am. Although they always say we are open in love, running from one to another, there is always an exception to the rule. Like me- then again, I have Saturn in Taurus in the 8th.

Some of the kinkiest and most sexually verbose men I know have Virgo Sun / Moon or Venus placements. Maybe we could do a poll about kinky Virgo men... I would bet you'll be surprised, especially since we seem to get more than a few topics about their kink status. LMAO....

But hey, stereotypes are fun too now aren't they?

Ahh.. and here are just two examples I know of -

One Venus in Virgo would talk about how much he loved to use toys on his female partners, he also loved to have orgies and go to swinger parties. He is fastidious about condoms and gets routine antibiotic prescriptions to ensure he does not have an STD plus is every six month HIV tests. He also told me once he has sex he must shower and change the sheets ASAP - but he is still kinky.

Another Venus in Virgo guy I am friends with has multiple partners, orgies and tapes himself for other friends doing off the wall things with his body. He is with a new man every guy every month and enjoys being peed on (he told me that last weekend).

The list goes on...LMAO... squeaky clean... puhleeze!

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posted October 23, 2006 07:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
illusions_fool ~
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I have Eros in Capricorn, how boring! lol.
Please don't knock yourself like that The Earth signs are *extremely* sensual!!

The third of the EARTH signs, Eros in Capricorn has a powerful need to connect in a physical sense and may also have equally powerful reservations, fears and objections to intimacy. Caution is the watchword. This sign is acknowledged as one of the most difficult to get to know. They do not open up easily and they may not stay open long.

The paradox is that Capricorn is extremely sensual and sexual in a very earthy, potent, Pan-like way. Its symbol is half goat after all and the implication of fertility and sexuality imbue the image. They have all the desires of Taurus lounging side by side with their deep well of fear.

When Eros is found in the eleventh house, friendships, groups and goals take on a potent and possibly passionate quality. We may experience friends as triggers for erotic feelings, transformations or creative turning points. Whether a person with an eleventh house Eros passionately merges with a friend or that friendship inspires them to experience the erotic through another person matters little. The important point is that through friendship, the god of love awakens.

(from Kim Falconer: http://www.falconastrology.com/natal_asteroids.htm#sign )

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posted October 23, 2006 08:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
illusion's_fool,

Zala is 100% right- never let anyone tell you that having an Earth sign makes you non-sexual or sexually timid. Earth signs are sensual AND unlike some of the other signs- can carry that sensuality for a LONG time- stamina, romance etc....

Some signs burn hot and fast or some confuse "experimentation and quantity" with experience and expertise.

Enjoy your Eros in Capricorn... it has a lot to offer

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posted October 23, 2006 11:03 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aww, thanks, you're all so sweet. I love you guys. I read on cafeastrology.com about Eros in Capricorn and that's why I said it was boring. But I'll try not to be so down about it, not like I'm not down enough about everything else in my chart anyway. What about Mars and Venus though? What can it tell you about yourself in the bedroom setting?

~Rebekka

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posted October 29, 2006 12:03 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote


My favorite reference to Venus in Virgo uses the analogy of the myth of Pygmalion, and that Venus in Virgo people have an erotic Pygmalion fantasy. NOT ONLY to find or create the "perfect" mate, but to BECOME what their mate most desires as well.

To me, this pins it down completely.

So that's why we speak of Venus in this placement as both picky and kinky. Both "of service" and "submissive". One could say, Venus in Virgo's make perfect lovers (pun intended).

Imagine having a lover who wishes to fulfill your every desire ... what's the catch? ... (They've got to like you first).

There is even some psychological jargon imaged after this myth ...

"Pygmalion Syndrome - The Effect

According to the myth, Pygmalion created a female statue and treated it with such affection that, through Aphrodite's intervention, the statue came to life and responded to him. Such is the essence of the self-fulfilling prophecy: what we expect tends to come true."


(Source: www.pygmalion.ws/stories/syndrome.htm

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tinasparkle
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posted October 29, 2006 12:30 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay, so if it has been established that he likes me, shall I anticipate that my every desire will be fulfilled? I can live with that.

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sue g
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posted October 29, 2006 01:18 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes I would agree the earth signs are extremely sensual too!!! My Virgo husband is like this....

I am too, with my Mars and Moon in Taurus....I have a heightened sense of sensuality....

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