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neptune5
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posted October 21, 2006 11:51 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think this may be an interesting topic to speak about. Communication & Writing is ruled by the 3rd, and what you like, pleasures, fun, favourites are all ruled by the 5th. So if we can understand that about ourselves and how it relates to the type of literature we like to read? This doesn't just have to be about classic novels and classic work by classic authors, its just whatever you like to read or interpret, for example what articles you like to read out of your weekly gazzette? Let's leave this thread broad.


Do I have any favourite books, not yet, but I do love to read, i just can't decide a favourite, but i do have favourite types and what I admire about books, i do like Old English Novels for their purity in speech, and french novels are exciting because of the tone. Well as of right now i'm at the beginning of "Les Liaisons Dangereueses" by Laclos, very intriguing, and i absolutely adore the novel by english author samuel richardson's pamela,or Virtue rewarderd even though i seem to just read page by page, over and over again, i'll probably won't finish it until i'm 40! but i love to savour the flavour of a novel. I have Lorna Doone & Jane Eyre, both romances reflect one another because of the victorian setting, but Doone is told in the prespective of the male, John Ridd, and Eyre is told in the prespective of Jane. I seem to like Doone a lot better, although i'm only on Ch.4 in Eyre, so i can't judge that book yet. But I do appreciate humour, and I love satirical literature, but unfortunately I don't own any yet, thats what I turn to my gazzette for. Madame Bovary is delightful book too. Oh goodness i'm just going on and on about this, well I seem to like those previous things i've mentioned maybe because of my 3rd house libra cusp (venus in 4th), Pluto in 3rd, maybe that explains why i'm so compulsive.

But if anyone has anything they've read or want to read and just share how it relates back to their astro positions, that would be great for this thread.


(A while ago I had a thread on "Free For All" forum titled "Literature Fanatics", this thread can be the astro version of it)

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cristiname
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posted October 22, 2006 01:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cristiname     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
listen, i think u misunderstood the meaning of the 3rd house. it's about the mindset, NOT personal taste. that is venus.

venus is also about social relating and, by extention, culture, literature. except philosophy which falls under jupiter (and law). and I would also add mercury, as the type of mind one has (what sort of ideas)

so, one's venus & mercury should tell us about their tastes, including what sort of books one may read. BUT the chart cannot tell us about their *level*. a tricky concept that encompasses all that is personal backround, education, etc.

basically, planets in the chart will tell u what kind of books..., but you don't know IF the person can read, if cares to.

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neptune5
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posted October 22, 2006 02:37 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for the clarification.

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neptune5
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posted October 22, 2006 02:50 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Now that I had taken a second look at your reply, I found something that contradicts what you said:
http://www.aquamoonlight.co.uk/3rdhouse.html

Third/3rd House

Type of House: Cadent

Natural Sign: Gemini

Natural Ruler: Mercury

Polar House: 9th

Keywords and what the Third/3rd house governs:

RELATIVES and COMMUNICATIONS

siblings and other relatives such as aunts, uncles, cousins, neighbours and how one relates to them; style and manner of all types of communications, letters, correspondence, telephone, short journeys, basic education and school life, documentation,
papers, books, writing,
transport, environment. Mental attitude, the analytical mind, self-expression, speech


And if you we all thought about it, the 3rd House is a Mercurial ruled house, isn't it?


(And personal taste would also look to the second house, Venus ruled,

and 5th house

CHILDREN and PLEASURE

children and how one relates to them, pleasures, enjoyment, fun, sports of all kinds, games, arts, leisure, activity, energy, creativity, entertainment, holidays, romance, love affairs (the type that may or may not lead on to seventh house matters), gambling, speculation, financial risks, stocks, investments

This house is the expression of the inner-self through creativity.

, Sun ruled)

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OzMeg222
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posted October 22, 2006 06:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for OzMeg222     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I read Lorna Doone when I was 8. I loved that book! A few of those others I read when I was young too.

I have no idea about the houses influencing the fact I love to read, and what I read these days is so varied its just ridiculous. I love everything from Wilbur Smith, Dan Brown, Paulina Simons, Susan Howatch, Maeve Binchy, Frank Herbert and my very fave David Eddings (and many more of course, I even read jackie collins when I want a quick fun read).

All of my favourite authors are extremely varied, but I believe they are all similar in the way even their 'heros' have many basic human flaws. I like that.

I have uranus in the fifth, north node in the third and my murcury is aquarius (eighth house). Not sure if anything there suggests my love of books, maybe my genius level IQ does though. Lol.

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posted October 23, 2006 10:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cristiname     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yes, neptune5 - 'communications' and 'writing' meas how YOU write (what i said - mindset = how u represnt the world in ur head, and so = how you represent/describe it to others)

yes, the 3rd house, tru its merucury rulership, governs writers - if YOU are the writer. tyl, for instance, in its vocational annalysis, always looks at the 3rd and its ruler to pick up creative potential and expressivity in writing.

same words - writting, communication, but ther is a qualitative difference - the author is at the other end of the stick.

but now that u mention it... you may be on to something - IF reading books is considerend a hobby or 'for-fun' activity (not by you, but by the person who's chart u're looking at), it should show, somehow, in their 5th house... i'm not sure how exaclty... but...theoreticaly, it works as a gen idea.

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posted October 23, 2006 04:06 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, nice Oz, but I like Joan Collins better than Jackie, shes more original. But um, about your first sentence on your post, on a realistic level it doesn't seem to me very possible for an 8 year old mind to comprehend and fully understand the Value & Language of Lorna. For a few reasons, because in the first page of the introduction it quotes that Lorna Doone together with Jane Eyre are both formative texts of adolescent and adult female reading, not child. And secondly, I really don't believe that an 8 year old child could come close to understanding the Old Victorian English Lingo & Language of John Ridd & His family patronizing to Lorna, and how John continuously dotes and fixtures himself obssesively about the Doones, their whereabouts and a possible attack because of his love of Lorna. And thridly, i really don't think that an 8 year old would understand the prime of the book, which is the only way John came to have Lorna, was to grow in himself and learn the lessons a young man must learn to become grown and groomed. But theres a lot more to the book, which I haven't covered because i'm only on Chapter XVLI (46: Squire Faggus Makes Some Lucky Hits). So until then, we can talk about it later. But all i'm saying is that if you told someone who is experienced in literature or a formidable reader that you read LornaD. at 8, they wouldn't believe you or take you seriously. I'm not saying this to be mean, but to B real.

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neptune5
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posted October 23, 2006 04:22 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And also because if you check the novel's genre, Lorna Doone is amongst one of the worlds best Classical Roamances, hitting the ranks with Pamela, Or Virtue Rewarded (which I own, and i will admit, i have to read word by word and still can't process, i have to .... go back....and check my grammer book, cause the lingo in that book is from England's 18th Century Society) which (Quote me saying this because a graduate student and I were actually chatting about literature) is difficult for English/World Literature Masters Degree Students to Read, and she said "i'm trying to avoid that". When your 8, when anyone is 8, the least that they would be reading is Grimms Fairy Tales, and the most, is probably a Louisa May Alcott novel. Their Delightful.

I hope you appreciate my realism, but I do love you Oz. "don't get snappy" lol I loved that comment.

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OzMeg222
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posted October 24, 2006 04:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for OzMeg222     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Of course I didn't understand a lot of the book at eight, especially certain themes! But I loved the language and how different everything was. I re-read it much later and got so many different things out of it, I'm sure if I read it again now I'd get completely different things out of it again. Life experience tends to do that, I want to read it again at 70 and glean something new then also.
I wasn't raised in your typical household, my mother was a scientist and artist and my step-father one of the leading geriatric specialists in this country. Our dinner time conversation wasn't exactly usual and our house was always full of people who didn't exactly sit around talking about the footy.
I've chosen a completely different path from my parents, am raising my children in a completely different environment and I feel content for the first time in my life. I was under a lot of pressure to 'perform' as a child, hence the reading of such books at such an early age. I rebelled, and continue to do so but I'm happy.
And I wasn't kidding about the genius level IQ, btw I just don't believe its relevant.

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