posted October 24, 2006 10:46 PM              

I've never been the "Pluto" person that I can remember. But I DO notice Synastry with my Scorpio Stellium, and I suppose that's good enough for starters.

posted October 26, 2006 03:52 AM            

I have just extricated myself out of one such obsession that lasted over 2 years.

His Pluto sat exactly on my ASC. My Pluto was exactly quindecile his Venus.

I always felt completely powerless and out of control and completely obsessed and consumed by him.

I honestly never want to feel that way again. I am finally over it, but I just thin those contacts are too powerful... I felt like a pathetic pawn, hypnotized almost.

It took a lot to shake him out of my hair... A LOT. I had to get a huge reality check to be done with my desire for him.

posted October 26, 2006 05:06 AM              

Thanks

posted October 26, 2006 06:38 AM            

Basically, he's a cheater and a liarand treats women like **** . I had no idea until about a month ago when it all came to light.

Sex is not enough for him. He wants the ego gratification of you being completely consumed by him. He will tell you whatever it takes to get you to that point, and doe thing he told me earlier, haunt me now...

He said "I don't know why, but women just get obsessed with me"...

I'LL TELL YOU WHY. BECAUSE THEY THINK IT'S MUTUAL. THEY'RE AREN'T SPONTANEOSLY OBSESSED WITH YOU BECAUSE YOU'RE GOD'S GIFT TO WOMEN THE WAY YOU LIKE TO THINK!!! IT'S BECAUSE YOU LIE TO THEM, TELL THEM HOW WONDERFUL YOU THINK THEY ARE, HOW GLAD YOU ARE TO HAVE MET THEM, YOU'VE NEVER MET ANYONE LIKE THEM BEFORE, SO AMAZING, BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH.

It's his modus operandi. He's a hit and run artist.

Some people here know the story, like Mama Mia... I mean, I honestly think he idealized me and I definitely idealized him and then when it became real, he freaked out. That's fine.

It was the "disappearance" and the lack of explanation. I can handle the truth. I would have appreciated it, even if it hurt. I told him so. I made it perfectly clear.

I'm an Aquarian, and friendship is paramount to me. I feel he disrespected me as a person and a human being.

And then to discover how he is with all these other women. How he treats them like pawns in his game, just for his entertainment, he doesn't give a **** about how his behaviour impacts them

He is utterly disgusting to me.

It echos in my ears how he told me repeatedly that anything I ever needed, anything at all, to please tell him, because he wanted to be the one to help me. How he pretended to be my friend, so sincere, so kind... he wrote me a ******* song, or so he says. I used to joke that it was a song he played for all the girls and just told them it was named for them... he said don't say that! When I reconciled with my husband, he told me again and again he would regret for the rest of his life what happened with us. He played that song for me on his guitar with tears in his eyes "do you recognize that? it's your song"...

What the F&CK ever!!!

Most vomit worthy, most insincere, fakest, misogynistic, egotistical person I have ever had the misfortune of coming across.

He treats women like trash. and they all take it, because just like I did, they think they have something special with him and that he is so kind and sincere. They don't question him.

He has a different woman in LA, Vegas and he dates around in the Bay Area.

Don't ask me how I know, but my source is irrefutable. It's the truth.

I am absolutely disgusted.

he's a classic commitmentphobe, player, emotional weakling, etc. I think he did have me on this pedestal when he couldn't have me. We met during my separation, I fell in love with him, he hurt me, he pulled away suddenly. I know there were no other women at that time because his life was simpler, he didn;t travel so much and he spent all his time with me anyway. A few months later, I reconciled with my husband. 2 years later when I am definitely getting divorced, he starts wooing me again. I have never met someone that says the things he says and doesn;t mean them. Also, I wanted to have a sexual relationship with him and I made that perfectly clear. I had no illusions about a big relationship, yet he kept pushing it and pushing it... then when I finally let my guard down and reciprocated...he pulled a disappearing act. Refused to return my calls, emails.

Now that I know how he rolls, I think he realized... do I wanna give up all this stuff for her? Do I really wanna do that?

Instead of dealing with it and explaining somehow, he just left me hanging.

THAT and now... knowing how he treats all these women like trash... thats how I can be so violently disgusted by him.

posted October 26, 2006 04:57 PM              

As for the guy I'm obsessed with--his Venus is sextile my Pluto. BUT my Sun is opp. his Pluto. His Moon is also conjunct my Mercury and Mars. He is/was drawn to me to an extent, but not as much as me to him. The Scorpio transit thingy isn't helping either. Lame...

posted October 29, 2006 05:40 AM              

Sorry to hear what ye went through, but it sure will make you a stronger person and also more wary the next time...

posted October 30, 2006 12:52 PM            

I can also relete to how you feel/felt....

I got caught up with someone playing me on the same dead end road paved with pretty lies and broken dreams...

I told him that it was such a shame that he couldn't be real.. He was the king of "poof" ...gone with no explanation....
And a liar... oh my gosh!! he was the lowest form of Mercury square Jupiter and Saturn
Venus square jupiter and Saturn...(not that all people with these aspects are unbtruthful) but with this one, the shoe most certainly fit...

And yes like Lauren said... He actually said to me "I'm afraid I'm going to ruin your life"...I said "Why would you want to?" and if thats your plan than I hate to put a crimp in your design , but I' have to go" He would actually try to play the victim in it all as well which totally made me sick...
Such a player... and an old one at that!
I would just smirk at hime and say, "Do i smell like pickles? Because I didn't step off that boat yeaterday!"
Anywho, we shared many of the aspects as listed by you all.
His Pluto and Uranus conj my Sun, Merc and Venus.. Venus being an exact conjunction.
My Pluto sextile his Sun
His Venus conjunct my SN exact 29'
His Pluto and Uranus made all those conjunctions in my 7th house... My Sun, Merc, and Venus fell in his 1st.
Disruptive, obsessive and a lot of pain...

posted November 05, 2006 10:19 AM              

Sometimes it can be difficult to know that someone is indeed lying. Are they lying? Or are you just seeing what you want to see?

Sometimes people lie if they think you would get hurt for no reason with the truth, or if they think the truth would anger you too much.

People lie for many reasons, so remember to never take yourself out of the equation.

Usually, if someone comes across right away as being untruthful TO US, the meeting is very shortlived, and you move on to another conversation. But if there is not enough clarity at any given time, look to Pisces/Neptune/12th House influences in the Natal Charts, and/or the Synastry Chart and/or the Composite Chart. Depending on the placements, it can account for some haziness, which in itself does not always produce a negative result. But at some point you have to realistically review the result.

posted November 05, 2006 10:43 PM              

thanks for sharing all the stories. its rather like a lesson for me to get over my obsession- it started almost 9 years ago, the last virgo-pisces eclipse phase, and just ended with THIS years virgo eclipse phase.

that's all i have figured out yet. he never knew his correct birth time, so i will never be 100% on his Asc. Ever- that always annoyed me. grrrr- still kind of does.

but-seriously- thanks for sharing.