posted October 23, 2006 09:09 PM            

I see a MarsVenusNeptune Yod - it's hard enough to get info on natal Yods, so I'm really at a loss for COMPOSITE Yods. Can anyone help me? How might this Yod be significant?

This relationship is having the most intense effects on us,me,him...physically, mentally, spiritually,good, bad and indifferent. I just know I've known him before.

We can not let go of each other, not for good anyway. He said once, with great difficulty, that there is something about me that "scares" him but he was unable to articulate it. The best he could say is it's about "loss". I have a theory that I hesitate to verbalize. It's plagued me for months (on and off, not continually). Tonight tho, I feel it again.

Is it possible to know someone from an earlier point in your life, have them leave and reincarnate again to cross your path at a later period in your present life? I hope I don't sound mental.

*edit*
Here's our composite chart & natals:
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q104/Maire31/natal_compMA-1.gif

posted October 24, 2006 02:17 AM              

I'm sorry for your pain.

I read your other post about Uranus and Chiron and almost replied then, but seeing this post felt compelled to write now. As you may or may not know, Uranus usually means change and sometimes it is "sudden" change.

My ascendant occupies the same position as your Chiron, so I've been experiencing major change/disruption in my life over the past several months which explains my interest and brings me back to your current post.

The first thing I noted when I looked at the composite chart was that Uranus is conjuncting the composite ascendant. While there are other things going on in the composite chart besides Uranus conj ascendant, I think it plays a key role in your relationship. Rather than bore you with my prose I'm going to quote from Robert Hand's "Planets In Composite".

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COMPOSITE URANUS CONJUNCT COMPOSITE ASCENDANT

"The conjunction of composite Uranus and Ascendant signifies a relationship that will probably have a strong impact on your lives. The nature of that impact can vary tremendously, depending in large part on your own attitudes.

First of all, this relationship will certainly expose you to a radically new kind of experience. It will not be the gentle consciousness-raising of Jupiter, but the jarring action of Uranus, the planet that challenges all your basic precepts about what life is and how it should be lived. Your reaction to Uranian energies is determined by how rigid you both are. The more flexible you are toward change and new experiences, the more constructive Uranus is likely to be. If the two of you are rather rigid, its effects can be devastating.

A relationship with this aspect will cause great changes in your lives. It may be that the two of you would not ordinarily be expected to get together, perhaps because of some difference in your backgrounds. Or it may be that one of you is always challenging the other. Sometimes this aspect means that you have come together precisely because the relationship does challenge your usual modes of thinking. It becomes a kind of rebellion against the world, which raises a problem.

This aspect often signifies instability in a relationship, simply because consciously or unconsciously you have come together to challenge or upset your usual patterns of life. This is fine until you try to settle down into some regular pattern together. Then the same restlessness that brought about your relationship may serve to break it up.

A relationship with this aspect in the composite chart must always stay loose and unstructured. Unless you allow it to follow its own unique course, it will not prove to be very stable or lasting.”

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I think the young man is restless and needs some space. Trying to hang onto him will likely cause him to run the other way. I think it’s up to you to find the courage to let this relationship take its own course which may not be in the direction you had envisioned. After all, you are an Aries. Steven Forrest calls Aries the sign of courage. So you do have the tools . . .

All the best,

posted October 24, 2006 03:12 AM            

Thanks for the info on composite Uranus. It's pretty prominent in both our comp & natal charts.

To clarify a little, neither one of us is the sole pursuer. We switch roles constantly. Initially I would distance. Then we were inseperable from Feb thru July. Then he distanced. Lately I have been the one to distance. It's like once we've endured enough space (a couple weeks or so) one of us will initiate the reconnect.

Currently he is the one pursuing. For nearly a month I have kept my distance. Not angry or upset. Just busy doing my own thing. Then out of the blue (Uranus) he calls and we happily chat. Funny thing is, it's like no time has elapsed. We just pick right up where we left off. I guess that's what bugs me - in many ways I have begun moving in a different direction, as has he, yet the need to keep the connection alive remains. My biggest worry is what happens when one of us (probably me) becomes exclusive with another? It kicks up that whole idea of loss. It's as though I don't want to "do it" to him again (this sense I have turned him away once before). I don't know, maybe it's like Robert Hand said, the same restlessness that brought us together may be the very thing to break us up.

posted October 24, 2006 03:25 AM              

I am not sure if it's Uranus trine Sun in my case or not but I get this scenario a lot.

The brutally honest thing works at keeping the relationship fresh as communication is important for those with Uranus aspects. In fact it's almost crucial.

Many do not like to hear upsetting things.

Also a relationship is about new things and growth not just a connection, you two ought to be moving in the same direction together whether or not you lead or not.

To me a relationship is about a mutual goal.

Do you two have mutual goals in common? It can be emotionally exhausting trying to keep that connection alive without that.

posted October 24, 2006 04:42 AM            

You bring up some extremely valid points. This is where the struggle lies. It's a job thing and a proximity thing. He chose to relocate about two hours away over the summer with the ideal of "coming home" to me on weekends. At first it was okay, we both managed the space thing quite well. Now of course, as time has gone on, the space/travel thing has lost a lot of its appeal. So since August we've seen each other less frequently. On an emotional level, we have the same goal, or maybe we don't anymore. We get along so well and enjoy being around each other, but with the decrease in frequency the support is not really there on a daily sort of basis. I want more of that, but I'm not in a position to move (nor do I have the desire to) and I don't think he is either. I think because we do have such a strong emotional/love bond, we don't want to let it go, in spite of the impractical nature the relationship has taken.

He avoids talking about the possibility of outside relationships. I mention it frequently and he insists he loves no one in this world except for me, and his childrens mother (she lives 1500 miles away).

I must admit, I've met someone. Two weeks ago, so it's very new. Nothing physical at all, not even a kiss yet a very strong intellectual & spiritual connection. He's an Aquarian! But I'm not rushing anything. He's very different from my current love (there's that UranusVenus thing again, lol).As I said before, I feel that I am the one that is going to have to end it once I find the kind of relationship I want.

Hmmm, maybe it all comes down to me not wanting to hurt "him". I love him. I love to be with him. I just don't love our relationship. Wow, I think I'm gonna have to tell him that this weekend!!

See you guys are great! Makin' me formulate my thoughts/feelings into cohesive ideas! Gee, I'm kinda feelin' better already.

******I am still VERY interested in those aspects I described in my initial post if anyone feels they could extrapolate. I want so much to understand this very unique relationship from an astrological/karmic point of view.