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Arnicka
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posted October 25, 2006 06:47 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just supposing that you believe in some way in the former, can the latter indicate anything in say, synastry charts of the two that may be connected?? Thanks!

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Maire31
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posted October 25, 2006 06:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Maire31     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've been dying to know this myself. Hopefully your question will get us both some answers

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Rev. Alice
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posted October 25, 2006 11:01 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There is an old belief that having matching degrees with someone indicates a contact from past lives--example: My Moon is exactly conjunct the Sun of an old friend.

While conjunctions are the most obvious, some think that other aspects can also be included--example Saturn exactly opposite Saturn.

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sue g
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posted October 25, 2006 11:07 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There is a good book you may like to read....will find out the title of it...most interesting, for sure!!

Be back later x

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william
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posted October 25, 2006 01:48 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hey arnicka,
when researching this concept ,i look for node conjunctions and pluto conjunction to the node.i have also noted node squares when one person was influences by another.
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posted October 25, 2006 07:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jenfullmoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I gather that having a planet on someone's south node in synastry is a sign of knowing them in a past life. Maybe having a planet on someone's vertex/antivertex is too, I am not 100% sure on that. Saturn squares in synastry seem to be karmic/past life things as well.

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posted October 25, 2006 09:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
some look at descending planetary nodes like Jeff Greene.Strong aspects, especially tight conjunctions, oppositions, and squares, of one partner's planets and/or angles to the Descending Nodes of the other's personal planets (Mercury, Venus, and Mars) are significant indicators of soul mate connection and likely involvement in previous lifetimes. The actual pre-incarnate contact between the two parties strengthens the experience of soulfulness in the relationship exactly because the source of that contact lies outside one's current bodily perimeters. This works in much the same way that meeting an old and close high school friend after an absence of some twenty or thirty years evokes not only the feelings and memories associated with those years together but also an enhanced sense of life's meaning in general through comparison of where we were then and where we are now. These contacts put us in touch with a deeper dimension of life than we could experience within either of those points in time by themselves.

My descend Mars node oppose her Venus - '29
Her descend Venus Node conj my Mars - '20


some look at conjunctions and oppositions within 2 degrees like Demetra George and Douglas Bloch.

according to them, in order to be connected to someone, you must have one of your planets or angles in the same or opposite degree as one of their planets or angles. From an energy perspective,the reasoning behind the theory is that each of the 360 degrees of the Zodiac vibrates to a particular frequency. Because of the law of magnetism, you will be attracted to those individuals who have planets(denoting parts of personality) that resonate to the same frequencies as your own. Because each pair of opposite degrees signifies the two poles of the same energy line, either degree will work.
These contact points are the glue or bonding that holds the relationship together. The more of these contact points that you share,the more connected you are. The planets involved will also indicate the nature of your relationship. Moon or Ceres contacts signify emotional,nurturing,or parental interactions;Juno,Venus,and Mars point to sexual or mating relationships;Saturn can indicate parental or authority figures involved in relationships,etc.
Once a connection has been clearly established, the ensuing relationship will be flowing or stressful,depending on the nature of the planets involved. If the connected planets have a natural affinity(e.g. Venus and the Moon),the interaction will be easier than if a more volatile planetary connection is established(e.g. the fiery Mars and the changeable Uranus).
For those who consider the reincarnation model, it is further suggested that these connections represent karmic contact points. The planets involved indicate what kinds of relationships you had in previous lives,whose karma,or unresolved issues,are now being further enacted in this current life. For example, Moon or Ceres contacts indicate a parent-child interaction. In the current life, you may be involved in a husband-wife relationship,but if there a strong Moon-Ceres connection, it will be the nurturing,dependency,and parental themes that will become major issues.
Other connections may signify the following: Juno contacts may portray previous marriage partners or mates. Venus and Mars contacts indicate prior sexual connections. Jupiter and Mercury contacts could show prior teacher-student interactions. Moreover, advanced astrological research suggests that sign contacts can point to the historical time period or geographical location in which a relationship took place.
That's from the book,ASTROLOGY FOR YOURSELF by Demetra George and Douglas Bloch
I would include parallel and contraparallel....they are like conjunctions and oppositions...the sky has more coordinates than just ecliptic longitude. Without declinations,we would not have seasons nor eclipses. I would use 15 minutes of arc for tight connections involving declinations

My Ascendant oppose her Ascendant - '16 same as Asc conjunct each other's Desc
My Asc contraparallels her Asc - '06 same as Asc pararallel each other's Desc
My Sun conjunct her Chiron - 1'18
Her Ceres oppose my Ceres - 1'56
Her Ceres conjunct my North Node - 1'32 - same as her Ceres oppose my South Node
Her Ceres parallel my IC - '11 - same as Ceres contraparallel my MC
Her Stationary Jupiter conjunct my IC - '16 - same as her Jupiter oppose my MC
Her Mercury oppose my Uranus - 1'51
Her Stationary Neptune parallels my IC - '04 - same as her Neptune contraparallel MC
Her Vesta oppose my Uranus - 1'56


Vedic Astrologers look at charts very differently. They don't see South Node as past life stuff. To them,South Node is Ketu which is significator of Moksha,liberation,enlightenment,but also loss,suffering. The cosmobiologists and uranian astrologers don't look at south node as pastlife either. The nodes are just seen as connections,meetings,and relationships.

They use D-60 Shastiamsa varga chart as karma Karma arising from own past life

It would make sense to compare D-60 chart to the other's D-60 chart to check for pastlife connections. Vedic Astrologers use aspects by sign and not by orb just like Ptolemy did. In Vedic Astrology aspects go like this: All planets aspect 7th house from themselves, Mars aspects also the 4th and 8th houses from itself, Jupiter aspects also the 5th and 9th house from itself,and Saturn aspects the 3rd and 10th houses from itself. So you wouldn't see Saturn trines,Jupiter squares nor sexiles,nor Mars trines/sextiles

I only checked conjunctions,oppositions within 5 degrees
also traditional Jupiter aspects,traditional Mars aspects,and traditional Saturn aspects
with 5 degree orb.

My Moon oppose Her Venus - 3'42
My Sun conjunct her Mercury - 2'16
My Mercury conjunct her Rahu(North Node) - 4'39
My Venus oppose her Venus - 2'48
Her Mars oppose my Jupiter - 2'31
My Jupiter 5th house aspect to her Mercury - 1'07
My Jupiter oppose her Jupiter - 1'10
My Rahu(North Node) conjunct her Ascendant - 4'01

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Arnicka
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posted October 26, 2006 05:58 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks everyone for the replies!

I have 2 charts in mind if there is someone who wouldn't mind taking a look and giving their opinion:

Rose
June 28 1945
99/30 west 27/30 north
11:30 am

Alivia
June 16 2006
117/12 west 34/08 north
11:22 pm

If this is possible, Thank you!

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Edit:

Rose is deceased, FYI if that changes your interpretation.

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Arnicka
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posted October 26, 2006 06:30 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Rev. Alice: Thank you ~ their closest conj seems to be Saturn Pluto with an orb of less than 1 deg. Can you list some of the others besides Saturn Saturn opp?

Sue: Would be interested in the title when you get around to it, thanks!

William: Do you mean Node square Node or personal planets square to the other's Node, say the Sun for example. ~Thank you

jenfullmoon: Yes I think it looks like one of them has Mars and Saturn on the other's AntiV. Interesting, thanks. To me SN feels like you almost want to break free of the person who has a planet there since it seems like theyre holding you back after a while.. my experience...tho it doesnt help that I have mars and saturn squaring the axis.

Glaucus: These descending planetary nodes, how would I figure these out? I have Astrolog 5.40... are they on there somewhere? Thanks! Plus do the Sun and moon have descending nodes as well? BTW I completely agree with the energy vibrating at similar degrees business.. I can definitely spot conjunctions I have with someone even before I ask their DOB etc. (most often moon conj moon--sun conj merc--merc conj venus--sun conj venus). You must be a fast typer I dont think Ive ever seen a short abbreviated post from you. Thanks for the info again.

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Arnicka
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posted November 06, 2006 05:09 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*bump*

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Belage
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posted November 06, 2006 12:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Fascinating.

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Arnicka
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posted January 05, 2007 04:17 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Maire31
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posted January 05, 2007 07:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Maire31     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
After reading through this thread I started looking for conjunctions as mentioned and stumbled across some asteroid definitions and found that we had a couple that definitely "fit" our connection.

example:
His Vesta conjunct my Asc, Pluto & Ceres.
My Adonis conjunct his Asc & Uranus

Question - Which person feels the Vesta/Adonis effect(s)?

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thedividedsky
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posted January 05, 2007 07:28 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
his sun 27 deg cancer
my saturn 27 deg cancer

I have to say this feels like a "karmic/past life" relationship to me....but with this conjunction he does have a "fatherly" feel over me.

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