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Salisa
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posted November 05, 2006 05:06 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What do you think are are some signs of gentleness/calmness in a mans chart?
I've never know anyone to be that way all the time but I'm talking about it as a basic personality trait.
When I mean Gentle I don't mean shy,bashful or humble. You can be intense and gentle or carefree charming and gentle I'm talking about the specific trait of gentleness/kindness.

Would it be a trait influenced mainly by Jupiter and Neptune?

I find this very interesting to see in men because I have rarely ever seen it as a dominate personality trait.

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Peri
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posted November 05, 2006 05:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus in Pisces, Cancer; Moon in Taurus

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posted November 05, 2006 05:24 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My hubbie is this way.....he is Virgo Sun with Venus in Cancer...

I think it equals kindness and gentleness

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posted November 05, 2006 05:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for alanabelle86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know a guy. He's so so so very gentle with everyone and everything. I almost don't know how to act around him...

Libra Asc, Sun in Pisces, Moon in Libra, Mercury in Pisces, Mars in Taurus

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Dulce Luna
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posted November 05, 2006 08:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pisces moon/libra venus

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Atlenta
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posted November 05, 2006 08:38 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Pisces moon/libra venus
hehe :P

venus sextile moon
venus sextile neptune

..or other positive aspects
(I chose sextile because they seem the softest and i have a live example )

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themysteryclub
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posted November 05, 2006 12:24 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would imagine the house placement also counts a bit..I know a man with venus in cancer and 95% of the time he is very inconsiderate.

Of all the men I know who have a gentle/calm quality to them every one of them has prominant aquarius in their chart.

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DayDreamer
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posted November 05, 2006 12:33 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Without reading any of the posts here I would have said a Pisces and Cancer influence.

I know a guy with Pisces Sun conjunct Venus, and a Cancer Asc. He's ultra gentle (but he loves paintball and the typical guy things) and is very shy and humble.

His sister an Aries is the complete opposite. It's hard to believe they're grew up together and are related.

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posted November 05, 2006 12:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A man who's gentleness humbles me:
  • Sun Aquarius 6th
  • Mercury,Desc. Venus, Moon, chiron, Saturn-Pisces 7th.
  • Jupiter Cancer 11th,
  • Vesta, Neptune Scorpio 3rd
  • Mars Libra 2nd.

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Glaucus
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posted November 05, 2006 12:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know that I am very gentle to the point a lot of guys think that I am weak. The gentleness shows in my voice too. I do consider myself a gentleman. My mother raised me to be a gentleman including me making me open doors for the opposite sex at 11 yrs old to the point that I do it instinctively.

I'd say that my indicators(excluding midpoints) are:

Sun trine Moon in water signs
Moon in Pisces
Moon in 6th
Neptune in 3rd
Moon square Neptune
Virgo Ascendant/Pisces Descendant axis
Mercury parallel Neptune
Venus parallel Neptune
Mars square Neptune
Mercury conjunct Venus
Mercury parallel Venus

Moon is conjunct the asteroid,Lancelot with 3 minutes of arc.

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posted November 05, 2006 01:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for libraschoice7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'd say ether Sun in Taurus or Sun in Virgo and Moon in Cancer, or vice versa. And I agree with the Venus in Cancer, makes a guy more sensitive towards his girl. Also having aspects like Venus/Neptune, Moon/Venus, or Moon/Neptune makes a guy real romantic and gentle. Having it in the 4th is even better.

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Sun in Libra
Moon in Cancer
Jupiter in Cancer
Venus in Virgo
Mars in Cancer
Ascendant in Cancer

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Leopricorn
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posted November 05, 2006 01:48 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hm, I'd have to say Mars in Libra or Mars in the 12th.

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lalalinda
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posted November 05, 2006 01:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ready for a surprise?
Capricorn Ascendant

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Peri
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posted November 05, 2006 02:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
that's probably Cancer DSC then....

hey Lalalinda

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lalalinda
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posted November 05, 2006 03:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hey Peri

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taurean_scorpion
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posted November 05, 2006 03:37 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think
Venus in Pisces or Taurus, and Neptune aspected to Moon.
Men with Mars harmoniously aspected to Saturn have a hard time saying 'no' to women, I know that's not always a good thing but at first glance it may seem so.

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Salisa
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posted November 05, 2006 04:37 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for all your replys!
I was looking around the net to see if Jupiter also had anything to do with it, and read that Venus in aspect to Jupiter can make you gental and kind. Did any of your gental guys have this aspect?

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posted November 05, 2006 04:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I don't have Venus in aspect to Jupiter,but
I do have Venus conjunct Sun/Jupiter midpoint with only 1 minute of arc.


SU.VE.JU.
+ congenial. popular. charming. pleasant. sincere. compassionate. sympathetic. cordial. warm-hearted. conciliatory. contented. seeks peace. tactful. giving. promising. people-oriented. epicurean. tasteful. conscious of color and texture. fair. experienced at handling money. capable at art.
Good fortune due to love of a man. Sympathy of successful men. Satisfaction with the fairness of a person. Pleasure due to a wealthy man. From love to success. Hope for justice. Desire for money. Happiness over good health. Healing. Attractive corpulence. Days of joy over financial matters. Years of good luck in love. Good time for hobbies.
- overly indulgent. overextends oneself to others. calculating. ostentatious.

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taurean_scorpion
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posted November 05, 2006 06:39 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Indeed, lol
He has Venus Square Jupiter, Moon sextile Venus, and Venus Conjuntion Neptune...

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illusions_fool
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posted November 05, 2006 08:20 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wish there were more gentle-type men.
Just thought I'd throw that out there.

~Rebekka

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posted November 05, 2006 08:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

honestly

I don't think any aspect can make you kind and gentle nor any aspect can make you mean and rough. I don't believe that you can tell a person's character by looking at their charts.


btw..Noel Tyl believes that Venus-Jupiter aspects are common in people with diabetes.

my mother has Venus parallel Jupiter,and she's a diabetic....also...my mom was abusive towards me......not always that nice and gentle.


It all comes down to free will.

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Salisa
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posted November 05, 2006 08:54 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I belive in something like that too you know the whole nature vs. nurture thing.
I think you start of in life with the distinct personality of your birth chart but as the people and things ware on you you change for better or for worse.
I mean you could have the most beautiful birth chart in the world but if you gave that child to a monster it most likly would not end up a beautiful person.
But I think in general many people hang on to some thing of what they once were.

That's why I said venus in aspect to jupiter "can" make you gental and kind. It actually makes me sad to think of there are some many people that started of very beautiful in life that the world just went and crushed to smitherings.

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taurean_scorpion
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posted November 05, 2006 09:05 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree, Glaucus and Salisa.

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posted November 06, 2006 12:58 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think what we perceive as gentle or kind is dependent upon how we elicit those traits in another.

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my mother has Venus parallel Jupiter,and she's a diabetic....also...my mom was abusive towards me......not always that nice and gentle.

Glaucus, I have Sun Ven Conj opp Jup. Others close to me have always considered me as gentle & considerate.

Your mother was frustrated by you. I'm projecting here because my Gem daughter was diagnosed with "ADHD"..and is a handful. She's a beautiful handful but there have been times I was not nice to her..and I admit to feeling like I've been downright mean and overly harsh with her.

My daughter has been the one who was able to both open my heart to it's fullest, but also the one to bring out the dark side of my personality.

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posted November 06, 2006 01:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nope.

It's more than her being frustrated by me. But yeah..when I was in special education,she was frustrated with having a Dyslexic,Dyspraxic child. She even called me "retard" out of frustration because she wanted me to be normal. I was only 6 at the time,and I was very incompetent in language and motor skills as well as too sensitive,emotional. She's always had a problem with her temper. She would cuss me out and hit me. She always had issues including she never knew her mother who never wanted her in the first place,been in 13 fosterhomes,lost her first born son to adoption when she was 15 yrs old,was a teenage age runaway,met my father during her runaway period in San Francisco,had me at 17 yrs old,had drug issues thanks to my drug addict father getting her involved in drugs after I was born,and she was shot when she was 20 yrs old,suicide attempts,been in psychiatric hospital for a few months,cervical cancer and removal of uterus at 23 yrs old,and history of bad relationships,suicide of her alcoholic,hepatitic father in 1998. My mother has a history of alcoholism which runs strongly on her side of the family.

My Mom has a lot of water in her chart(Ascendant,Mercury,Venus,Jupiter,and Uranus in Cancer along with Moon and Saturn in Scorpio) and she has Moon in Scorpio in 5th square Pluto in Leo in 3rd(Moon-Pluto double whammy). She has an out of bounds Mars in Capricorn oppose Ascendant. It doesn't take much to get her upset and lose her temper. She has had a bad temper since childhood. She was in an unhappy marriage to man 25 years her senior. He was a control freak Leo. My mother has her own control issues too. We have a history of a love and hate relationship. She has Diabetes and Hepatitis C,but she doesn't take care of herself. She still smokes and is a bit overweight.


My mother is more ADHD than I am. I am not ADHD. My mother also shows symptoms of manic depression. She even admitted to that. She has diagnosed anxiety,depressive disorder,as well as PTSD. My mother also has a lot of Dyslexic symptoms too. She didn't even complete 9th grade. I inherited my Dyslexia from her and my father. I don't have ADHD myself. I had tended to be hypoactive growing up.


All that fits with my T-Square of Moon in Pisces in 6th square retrograde Saturn in Gemini in 9th and Jupiter-Sagittarius in 3rd. That's the most challenging configuration in my chart. It indicates my highly dysfunctional mother experiences.

after all, Moon in one's chart indicates the experiences with the mother as well as other important women and not just one's emotional nature,feelings,instincts,subconcious habit patterns,unconscious,emotional needs,and nurturing.

my mom's 11 lifepath number and 22 expression number fits her life. My 29th birthday fits my life including my experiences with my mother. Master Numbers indicate great challenges even though there is great potential.

"I think what we perceive as gentle or kind is dependent upon how we elicit those traits in another."

I do agree with that. However, I do believe that we have the free will to choose how we use our traits regardless of whom we are interacting with.

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