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From: gulf coast texas
Registered: Aug 2009

posted November 11, 2006 10:12 PM            

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While I may have become somewhat adept at a phoenix like 'ability' to be reduced over and over again to ashes yet 'rise' again, my feelings are that i do not think i can do this much more. It seems whatever i love or hold dear is stripped from me and that those i love and believe in often are truly the biggest sources of personal pain and humiliation. Yes i keep my s-elf isolated because often even the skin i am in crawls and hurts knowing the probable emotional, psychic, bodily, or spiritual pain is on its way if i don't-
please keep me soothed with beneficial vibes if possible and please share your own tales of this 'devil moon' influence! Stories, survival techniques, etc.

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posted November 12, 2006 03:35 AM            

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it's quite hard to give advice to people who have suffered because of their loved ones.All i could say regarding your situation is that "hope is all there is".We live in order to love ...even if that hurts.I, for one, have been in love counteless times with the wrong persons.Each and every time it has been worst than the last.I tried to keep the feelings to myself and not fall again.But i did fall in love, over and over again.Until i realised , no matter how much it hurts, that's what we have to do -love unconditionally.
I don't have a moon conjunct pluto aspect but i do have a conjunction between venus and pluto.

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posted November 12, 2006 05:25 AM              

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Yes i keep my s-elf isolated because often even the skin i am in crawls and hurts knowing the probable emotional, psychic, bodily, or spiritual pain is on its way if i don't-

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Attempts to isolate anything plutonic just won't work. (Learnt it hard way.) I've found that best for me is to be as open with my emotions as I can. And as loving as I can. Yes, this openess can mean more frequent trips to that dark abyss behind the left eye, but this openess also adds strenght and you learn to pick up the best road, how to avoid some pumps and loops.

It is lot easier to say than to do of course, so you have my best wishes with you.

I don't remember who has sayed something like - you have to make light out of darkness because there is nothing else to make it from. Sure suits for Moon conj Pluto

Aen
(sorry if this rambling didn't help you at all)

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No hesitation. No regret. No looking back.

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posted November 12, 2006 08:30 AM              

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yes it's true the answer to pain from loved ones is to love again and have hope. It's the only medicine. The thing you lose is the thing you need to find again.

As for having people taken from you, look to your own life and try to attract new people who are like you. Since you are changing the people around you change, change is normal.

Let yourself breathe a bit,

Hugs,
Natasha
Taurus/Cancer

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From: gulf coast texas
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posted November 14, 2006 09:27 PM            

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thanx all for words of wisdom & heart-also thank you for a place to 'play the whining emoting fool' having lived and resurrected with this, and with Moon in Sag, like the kids punching toy, I pop back up with the same idiots grin no matter what which gets enemies working harder and me wondering why the looney bin doesn't feature my address.
I know this much to be true:

A truly refined warrior seeker knows no-thing, holds onto no-thing, covets no-thing. All is the true heart energy focus.

I a was not speaking of losses like boyfriends and romance necessarily. With me, if I allow myself to really be happy with and love say a pet, jewelry, a vehicle, job, child, relationships ...usually have to give it up some way that wrenches the heart deeply and like "something" is trying to emphasize i should know better than to feel i am able to "keep" what i feel i love- the longing to be ordinary instead of special has eased but is still hanging around the heart somewhere-
Thanking the universe for the divine gifts bestowed upon me, thanking the universe for all things, thanking the universe continuously, i am yr LL friend, tuxedo meow
notice still s elf isolating? does making love to the Gulf of Mexico, the wind, the sky count? also thank you INCREDIBLE luck and kindness from strangers

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posted November 14, 2006 09:29 PM            

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thanx all for words of wisdom & heart-also thank you for a place to 'play the whining emoting fool' having lived and resurrected with this, and with Moon in Sag, like the kids punching toy, I pop back up with the same idiots grin no matter what which gets enemies working harder and me wondering why the looney bin doesn't feature my address.(i got that image from an author's description of moon in sag-I think The Only Astrology Book You'll Ever Need)
I know this much to be true:

A truly refined warrior seeker knows no-thing, holds onto no-thing, covets no-thing. All is the true heart energy focus.

I a was not speaking of losses like boyfriends and romance necessarily. With me, if I allow myself to really be happy with and love say a pet, jewelry, a vehicle, job, child, relationships ...usually have to give it up some way that wrenches the heart deeply and like "something" is trying to emphasize i should know better than to feel i am able to "keep" what i feel i love- the longing to be ordinary instead of special has eased but is still hanging around the heart somewhere-
Thanking the universe for the divine gifts bestowed upon me, thanking the universe for all things, thanking the universe continuously, i am yr LL friend, tuxedo meow
notice still s elf isolating? does making love to the Gulf of Mexico, the wind, the sky count? also thank universe for INCREDIBLE luck and kindness from strangers

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posted November 14, 2006 09:32 PM            

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posted November 15, 2006 11:28 PM              

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Hi tuxedo meow,

i dont hv tht aspect, but i have had that happen to me a lot. in the end i detached. both from my 'possesions' AND people whom i love a lot. not that i love them any less, just that i try to contain my enthusiasm (in case of things) and lower my expectations (in case of people).
Its like that saying....love is like a butterfly, when chased it eludes you, but if you quietly let it be, it will come and sit on your shoulder.
dont knw if it made sense to u...just felt tht i knew whr u r coming frm

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