posted November 24, 2006 07:18 PM            

Question... does my asteroid indicate I may hate toast?

Hee hee -

posted November 24, 2006 08:42 PM            

I have Moon in Pisces in 6th house square the opposition of Saturn in Gemini in 9th and Jupiter-Neptune in Sagittarius.

My Pisces Moon oppose Saturn/Neptune midpoint with 17 minutes of arc.

I have Virgo Ascendant

Saturn/Neptune is the chronic illness midpoint
hard aspects between Saturn and Neptune indicate chronic health issues

planets in Virgo can indicate health problems in regards to Pisces due to Pisces being the primary reflex point of Virgo

This is in regards to medical astrology

I have a long history of problems with my feet including flat feet,plantar fascitis,my feet blister and callous easily,had corn on my toe,and had toe nail fungus.

I actually have a Cosmobiology Health Report Program

Here is part of my report. This is just stuff that pertains to Virgo and Pisces.

Virgo Rising:

Virgo affects the intestinal system, spleen, liver and gallbladder. It also rules the fourth and fifth thoracic vertebras. There could be a predisposition to intestinal disorders, colics, colitis, diarrhea, constipation and problems with the liver and gallbladder. Because you tend to be very sensitive and open to suggestion, you have to guard against an inclination to become a hypochondriac.

Primary reflexes to the feet and lymphatic system could cause weak or flat feet, gout, diseases due to chills and severe colds or flu. Secondary reflexes are to the hips and thighs and to the shoulders, arms and lungs.

Asc degree makes sensitivity in:

14 VIRGO: Gallbladder artery. Primary reflex PISCES: Right plantar veins (foot).
Secondary reflexes - GEMINI: Clavicle (collarbone). SAGITTARIUS: Superficial femoral vein (thigh).

Moon degree makes fluid retention in:

4 PISCES: Left foot nerves. Asthma degree. Primary reflex VIRGO: Ascending colon. Asthma degree. Secondary reflexes -GEMINI: Lung lobes, bronchioles. SAGITTARIUS: Femur (thigh).

The SATURN/NEPTUNE midpoint is a major point of potential chronic diseases or
long-term ailments at the degree indicated. There is a tendency to degeneration and immune system deficiency.

Saturn/Neptune affects:

posted November 24, 2006 11:30 PM              

Pid- your patience with neptune is amazing. Kudos to you.

I am fairly sure that my chart placement of Asteroid Mxyzptlk explains my penchant for comic books as well as my constant affliction of ingrown hairs.

posted November 25, 2006 04:16 PM              

It works. Honestly!!

posted November 25, 2006 04:49 PM            

I was looking for that asteroid in the minor planet list on astro.com,and I couldn't find it. From my watching the Super Friends cartoons,I know that Mxyzptlk was a magical being from an another dimension. He created a lot of mischief. The only way to get him back to his world is to get him to say his name backwards.

Because of that, I was wondering if that asteroid might be prominent in my chart for an indicator for Dyslexia for me. not just for the reversals but also the alternative dimensional thinking that is associated with dyslexia.

There is an asteroid called (20461) Dioretsa

That's asteroid spelled backwards.

I actually have Dioretsa biquintile my Sun in 2nd/near 3rd house cusp with 5 minutes of arc and quintile my Midheaven with only 1 minute of arc. They are in a 5th harmonic triangle. So Sun is actually oppose my Dioretsa/Midheaven midpoint with 6 minutes of arc. It also trines my Neptune in 3rd with 2'33 orb and oppose my 3rd house ruler Pluto with 1'36 orb. It is also conjunct the Aries Point with 45 minutes of arc.

The Aries Point indicates our day to day activities out in the daily world. It indicates the type of people you meet out in the street (or rather the type of people you notice?), general connections and the way
people view you.

Origins
In astrology, there is a special measurement we can look to reliably when we are seeking evidence of tremendous public projection potential. This is known as the Aries Point, yet it refers to zero degrees of all cardinal signs — Aries, Cancer, Libra and Capricorn. Use an orb of two or two and a half degrees maximum (which means that a planet at 29 degrees Virgo or 28 degrees Sagittarius, etc., would be considered at the Aries Point). Use planets, the Ascendant, MC and midpoints only. (Interior house cusps are not reliable, given there are a plethora of house systems in use).

The history of the Aries Point has its roots in the Uranian School of Astrology through Hans Niggemann’s The Key To Uranian Astrology. Reinhold Ebertin developed the Aries Point further in his cosmobiology work; much later, Gary Christen’s offering in the National Council for Geocosmic Research (NCGR) further outlined the concept. (1)

It was Noel Tyl who brought the Aries Point forward convincingly into mainstream psychological astrology with his presentation of the Aries Point in Synthesis and Counseling in Astrology in the mid 1990s. (2)

The Aries Point in the horoscope has a link that is both astronomical, because it is the all-important cardinal axis, and astrological because it keys the sense of initiation within the ‘feel’ of cardinality in the horoscope. However, it is not only the sense of initiation within the Aries Point (which is characteristic of cardinality in general) bur rather its great potential for public projection related to that planet or point and its related rulerships.
http://www.lifepathastrology.com/articles/TheAriesPoint.htm

posted November 25, 2006 05:10 PM              

I meant

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posted November 25, 2006 06:57 PM              

you are a dear.... but honestly, I would be surprised if there really WAS an Asteroid Mxyzptlk - I totally made it up. This thread was meant as a joke (i am pretty sure it was, anyway) and I responded as such.

I really believe astrology is a great tool, but do we really need to hunt down some obscure asteroid to justify every action we take or every idiosyncrasy of our personalities?

Also, for glaucus specifically- my comment is not directed at you, so I hope you don't take my opinion to heart. It's more of a comment about LL in general. I also share the wonderment and thrill of learning about myself, and observing how patterns in the stars can influence everyone around me..

....however....

I will not allow it to be a crutch. I don't stay in my house for 6 weeks just because Mercury is RX. I don't use Neptune/Aquarius aspects become the justification for why my 8 year old kid is obsessed with video games and is overweight (hey! STOP feeding the kid sugar and send him outside! stop saying "its in his chart!") I don't scour my chart looking for indications that I am brilliant, that I am meant to be some rich guy's mistress, or that I am going to have a miscarriage.

Sorry... I don't mean to be in b!tch mode, but sometimes, you have to put down the astrolabe and live that life the planets have given you.

ok, the hypercritical Virgo is done ranting now...

posted November 25, 2006 07:21 PM            

I didn't think that was a joke. I thought that it was an earnest question. There is such thing as Medical Astrology. There are books written on it. I have 4 medical Astrology books and a medical astrology report program myself. Pisces is the sign associated with the feet. It is said that people with significant Pisces influences can have problems with the feet. I have Moon in Pisces in t-square with Saturn and Neptune and oppose Saturn/Neptune midpoint, and I have a long history of feet problems.

Astronomers give all kinds of names to asteroids. Mxyzptlk wouldn't have been that unusual.

I believe any asteroid can be of significance. I have been using asteroids almost as long as I have been an astrologer. I believe that everything in the universe is connected,and that's why I believe Astrology works...so I apply that same reasoning with asteroids.

I believe that Astrology works because of synchronicity. I also believe that archetypes are a big part of Astrology. I feel that asteroids can be like minor archetypes. It was studying Mythology that helped me grasp Astrology well. Just like every chromosome and gene is important in our body, I don't see why an asteroid can't have importance in our charts. The natal chart is just our heavenly body positions in the sky at our moment of birth. Heavenly bodies aren't just planets. They are also asteroids,centaurs,comets,stars.

People even found names of personal people in significant placements and aspects to their chart too.

I know that you weren't referring to me. I was just wondering if there was an asteroid which you mentioned about. I don't think it's a mere coincidence that Dioretsa happens to be strongly placed in my chart.

Jacob Schwartz has a lot of good asteroid insights. I found his site in 2000.
I have been an asteroid astrologer since summer of 1999. I have used asteroids in all kinds of charts. I have asteroid astrology books by Martha Lang-Wescott. Zane Stein got me interested in the centaurs and the kuiper belt objects.

Just because people have their own way of doing Astrology doesn't mean that they use it as a crutch. Maybe they just want to probe deeper into things. Maybe they are just curious about seeing things from another angle. Maybe they are investigating and researching. That's good thing about my Dyslexia, I naturally view things from a different angle,see patterns,and see the big picture. Dyslexic thinking is outside the box thinking,and it's good for problem solving. I am Dyspraxic too,and that's outside the box thinking and good with seeing patterns. I really feel that it is my Dyslexic,Dyspraxic thinking is what help makes me a very good astrologer. I actually feel that I found my niche in Astrology where my Dyslexia,Dyspraxia are assets and not liabiliities like they were in regular schools,navy,and anything that has to do with paperpushing,clerical type of work.

there are so many ways of doing Astrology. There are so many branches of Astrology. I am mainly a psychological astrologer,but I am also interested in transformational/evolutionary astrologer. Also I do have a strong interest in medical Astrology. That's why I have 4 medical astrology books as well as medical astrology report program for research. I am also into Cosmobiology,and that's why I use midpoints a lot. I am also into fixed star Astrology,but I am mainly into fixed star parans which is ancient Egyptian fixed star method. I do have a fixed star paran program. That's the program I used to generate fixed star reports for people in our forum. Furthermore, I have studied Vedic Astrology aka Jyotish. That Astrology is based on karma,pastlife stuff. It is very fatalistic,but it has really good insights.

There are so many types and ways to do Astrology.

Being an astrologer doesn't necessarily mean that they are using it as crutch nor don't believe in free will. I am an astrologer who strongly believes in free will. I believe Astrology works because of synchroncity. I don't believe in Astrology in a cause and effect way. I don't believe that planetary aspects and placements make me a certain way. I just believe that planetary aspects and placements reflect me or indicate how I am. My natal chart is in reflection of who I am. My natal doesn't make who I am. I have always believed that as an astrologer.

I felt the need to explain myself.
I really didn't need your lecture.
I feel like you're preaching to the choir
I am not some ignorant ass. I stressed so many times that Free will is the ultimate factor too. I always stress that in my readings. I definitely don't feel like I should be given a hard time for being very studious about Astrology and expressing that.

BTW...I do intend on being a professional astrologer. I have been investing in professional software,reports,books,studying since 1998.....that's how serious I am about Astrology. I have been doing Astrology readings since summer of 1999.

Ironically, I was skeptic of Astrology until June 28, 1998. I didn't believe in Astrology until I was almost 28 years old. I was pretty much a late bloomer. Better late than never though. I have been a late bloomer in most things..especially in language.

I have a Virgo Ascendant myself with Moon and Mars in the 6th house which is associated with Virgo.

My Sun is in the astronomical constellation of Virgo with Spica,alpha star of Virgo my heliacal rising star.

posted November 25, 2006 08:03 PM            

This type of astrology has its basis in ancient astrology when the astrologer rarely knew the exact time of birth of a subject. Instead, a chart was set up for the time the patient "took to his bed" or for the time the physician analyzed the urine of the patient. Nowadays, the decumbiture chart can be set up for the time of a diagnosis by a doctor or for the time a person "takes to his bed."

Medical astrology is also helpful in elective surgery. The medical astrologer can pick the best date(s) and time(s) for an elective procedure -- anything from a face lift to a college injection. Although it is always best to have the time of birth of the person, if this is not possible, the medical astrologer can still help the client pick the most fortunate times for the procedure.

Needless to say, one should not try to use elective astrology in a medical emergency. Medical astrology should not be used to diagnose illness. The only person who can diagnose illness is a medical doctor. And even a medical doctor who is also versed in medical astrology would not try to diagnose illness from a birth chart.

You may be able to determine a tendency toward various types of illnesses, and you can usually see periods of stress or lowered vitality when one could have health problems; but it is not possible nor should one attempt to diagnose illness from the birth chart.

However, once a medical doctor has diagnoses a particular illness, the medical astrologer may be able to ascertain from the birth chart the severity or duration of the illness. It is always helpful to know exactly when an illness began or was diagnosed as then the medical astrologer can ascertain what planetary influences the client was under at that time. And as stated previously, if the moment of the diagnosis is recorded, a medical astrologer can set up a decumbiture chart for that time and gain more information about the course the illness.
http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/MedicalAstrology29.0.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_astrology http://www.astroheal.com/

posted November 25, 2006 10:44 PM              

hence why I said- "this is not for glaucus specifically."

its not a lecture- it was an opinion!
And guess what- with all that free will, you have the free-dom to NOT read it!

Why do you have to take it personally? I never called you an ignorant ass. If anything, I am LIGHTLY POKING FUN AT PEOPLE WHO CAN"T TAKE A JOKE.
I remember reading a HUGE thread about someone justifying their poor parenting by saying it was in the kid's chart for him to be "techno-savvy" (aka addicted to a Play-satiation, fat, and insolent to his parents) while simulataneously b!tching about how the kid is uncontrollable, may have ADD, yada yada.

And everyone just fed into it, instead of someone saying "hey- take away the PSII and make the kid take a walk."

THAT'S what i mean about it being a crutch. Not you....and yes, I am in awe of your astrological knowledge. Please become a professional- you will be wonderful.
I was NOT giving you a hard time.

It started as a joke. Lighten up.

posted November 25, 2006 11:05 PM            

I misunderstood.

I am sorry.

I agree with what you said about the ADD stuff.

posted November 26, 2006 01:23 AM              

I really can't get behind calling ADD a disorder either- but for different reasons. With the rise of "Big Pharm" and its takeover of the FDA, I am SO wary of the push for drugs. I hear of 20 somethings taking Paxil so they won't be nervous on a date. One hears of teachers saying kids in their classes need to be medicated.

How about the fact these kids are 5, 6, 7 years old? Do we really believe as a society that children can sit still for 8 hours a day? C'mon now, thats ludicrous. Creating the ADD diagnosis isn't the bandaid that will solve the real problems...

But hey, let me stop here... the ADD thread has been beat to death at LL long before now.