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Topic: Request help with my Taurus son...
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future_uncertain Knowflake Posts: 193 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted November 26, 2006 12:47 AM
He's six and I'm (mildly) worried about him. We've been struggling with some issues for some time and I feel that perhaps I'm not understanding him the way he needs me to.I'd post his chart but I can't use photobucket right now because I've forgotten my username. Would someone be willing to give me some insight? 5/11/00 9:53 am lima, OH I can give more info through email if someone wants to help. Thanks!
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posted November 26, 2006 06:04 AM
Lima in Allen County? It will get much better in late Summer 2007-when Saturn will stop psychoterror. Believe it! You have a wonderful son.IP: Logged |
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posted November 26, 2006 07:03 AM
future_uncertain .. hi ..is it: # Lima (Meigs County), OH (US): 39n04, 82w07, Ohio or .. # Lima (Allen County), OH (US): 40n45, 84w06, Ohio looks like a ton of planets in taur :-)) well .. even without bt etc .. he's had saturn to deal with as it squared all the taur placements .. .. '''maybe''' even t.sat conj moon currently .. and an urns transit .. sextiling the early taur placements .. it's been dancing direct/retro .. and some neptune squares by transit .. H§D ------------------ various LL thread links and mp3 files at .. www.happydragon.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/jkbx/audiofls.html .. updated 25 ~11~ 06 IP: Logged |
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posted November 26, 2006 07:14 AM
moon looks to be on leo/virgo cusp .. so tSaturn has been building up .. then retro a bit .. so by sept next year tSat should be out of the way .. i.e. past his moon ..IP: Logged |
future_uncertain Knowflake Posts: 193 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted November 26, 2006 08:46 AM
Yes, it is Allen County.Thank you for the information Jan_A and Happy Dragon. I don't know how to explain his behavior, but he seems to be under a lot of unexplained "tension" for just a little guy. Happy Dragon... the problem does seem to be comng and going out of nowhere... explained by retro/direct back and forth. Poor little guy can't even explain what his problem is. Marked by strong anger, stubbornness, willfullness that is out of character, even for this uber-taurus. Question: What do I need to do for him? i.e. give hiim breathing room, be closer, distract him with new hobbies/interests?? This has been most helpful. My heart aches for the little guy. Brings me to tears at times. IP: Logged |
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posted November 26, 2006 09:48 AM
~ future uncertain ~.. mmm .. well .. maybe build a mini bull ring .. with foam rubber bullseye thangs .. y'know where the matadors take cover when and if neccessary ... t'waz an offhand thought .. as i used to love play-wrestling at that age .. drove m'dad nuts with it .. and almost demolished his fav. chair in the process .. and the energy spent .. i guess left me somewhat expired in the aftermath :-)) will have a think on it .. IP: Logged |
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posted November 26, 2006 11:00 AM
~future~ re: ***..Marked by strong anger, stubbornness, willfullness that is out of character, even for this uber-taurus *** .. i've not re-looked or done the chart with county co-ordinates .. and .. i'm sort of flitting about .. think i've a mars transit on .. feels like it in any case .. but reading that .. made me laugh (in an empathetic sense) .. 'cause ~ * strong anger, stubbornness, willfullness * ~ is taurean true 'n true .. and he's got a bunch in that sign .. .. an energy outlet for his anger .. of some-sort .. something really physical .. i mean what do bulls do? .. they charge 'n push and push against their adversary 'till the other one is demolished .. so let him act it out .. somehow .. .. was just a thought .. .. .. .. .. .. a mini punching bag ?? i'll do the chart 'n look for upcoming mars transits .. .. 'n you get psudo bull ring together .. don't be toooo harsh on him .. hey how about a paint fight ???? .. (edit) IP: Logged |
future_uncertain Knowflake Posts: 193 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted November 26, 2006 12:34 PM
Thank you, thank you.I've noticed he is very agressive indeed with his affection. He can't love you without hurting you in the process. Then I'm angry with him and his poor feelings are hurt. The bullring... in an abstract sense it makes sense. Gives me a mental image to keep in mind when dealing with him. He is truly a sweet, sweet boy. He's just incredibly intense as of late and I know I need to help him find his outlet. IP: Logged |
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posted November 26, 2006 12:38 PM
Hi futureHas he been like this since the baby came. I have heard other women say their first born behaves a little out of character.....? Apparently my sister wouldnt even look at me? Maybe that has something to do with it....maybe not? I hope things improve for ye all xx IP: Logged |
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posted November 26, 2006 12:39 PM
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posted November 26, 2006 12:59 PM
hi ~ future ~i had shut down for the day .. bit of a headache at mo. .. just waiting for dindins to cook up .. 'n had a thought .. *Charlie Chaplin and Buster Keaton* .. Never failed to make me Laugh .. .. dig out some slapstick videos ?? . *harmonius music *.. i.e. orchestral or similar ... as in background music .. go visit some *nature places* .. watch seals 'n otters .. or whatever's handy in your neck of the woods .. take him to see a real bull .. face to face ( well almost :-))) music would work i rekon ... as in a calming sense .. .. a hug usually works wonders for little taureans .. .. as will good tasty food .. must dash .. can smell something .. .. my food .. :-)) ~ H§D ~ IP: Logged |
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posted November 26, 2006 01:37 PM
Future Uranus square his Sun/Saturn/Jupiter/Mercury/Venus could explain how his behaviour comes and goes out of nowhere. With his Sun conjunct Saturn/Jupiter in Taurus he should be very ambitious when he gets older..you probably already see the signs of his determination...he needs to have something to dedicate his energy and will on. With Saturn conjunct Sun things may come slowly to him and after long and painstaking trials and work...and the uranus square these planest could maintfest his frustrations from this into aggression. HD...such simple suggestions
quote: music would work i rekon ... as in a calming sense .. .. a hug usually works wonders for little taureans .. .. as will good tasty food ..
seem to work great wonders with the Taureans I know. IP: Logged |
future_uncertain Knowflake Posts: 193 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted November 26, 2006 01:57 PM
Thanks again for the insight, folks. He's at his dad's for the weekend, so I'm looking forward to his return so I can try some of these ideas.Sue... I'm sure some of it has to do with the little one, but I must say, I'm impressed with the way he's stepped up as big brother! He was dead set against her before she was born, and now he can't leave her alone. Usually he speaks up if he feels he's lost attention to the baby, so I'm glad for that. But you know how when you're close with your little ones (and dear Sue, I know you know! ) you know when it's something else that's troubling them. This feels to me like something that goes beyond the realm of "because..." I don't think he knows, himself. Good to hear from you, btw. I hope you and yours are well! IP: Logged |
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posted November 26, 2006 04:13 PM
~ future ~ .. re: .. ** .. Usually he speaks up if he feels he's lost attention**with t.Sat to Moon .. he could be feeling fearful of a potential loss .. and feeling restricted in expression maybe .. i mean .. in his mind .. so saturns nature of over-compensation comes to mind .. if you look in my sig link .. maybe read some of the saturn data .. you'll see a common thread in the 'apparent' fear nature .. and .. we all have some reactions to a percieved fear .. .. in the chart pic below .. notice t.Chiron approaching natal Neptune .. he could probably be feeling ~ imagining that somewhat .. as far a Saturn goes .. it goes retro in dec. .. untill 18 deg Leo .. in may '07 it turns direct again so .. it will re-aspect by square his Merc and oppose his Urns placement t.Saturn to Taurean Merc (same here) well .. there be potential stubborn anger thoughts in that one .. :+ and ..over the past number of weeks .. there has been a whole bunch of planetary activity in Scorp .. opposite his sun plus :-) and recent Lillith to hic IC .. ( pic is chart with transits ~ placidius ~ and could differ from an astro.com one ) ~ list are natals ~ date is for transits ~ a thought .. choral music has never failed to soothe .. regardless of what mood .. be well .. .. H§D .. ------------------ various LL thread links and mp3 files at .. www.happydragon.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/jkbx/audiofls.html .. updated 25 ~11~ 06 IP: Logged |
future_uncertain Knowflake Posts: 193 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted November 27, 2006 08:38 AM
HD, I'll check out your Saturn stuff as soon as I can. He came home last night with the same super-bull attitude, but I've been deflecting with downright absurd humor. Seems to be buying me some time... Thanks again. You may have saved that child hours in time out! IP: Logged |
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posted November 27, 2006 05:04 PM
~ future ~ re: super bull aspirations i guess one thing to keep an eye on .. astrologicaly .. is the progression of Mars (and Merc.) to oppose his natal Pluto ie. .. Mars is currently by progression about 2deg off from the exact opposition .. .. somewhere between ages 8 and 9 it will be exact ... and .. as that progression gets stronger .. i guess it could make his taurean emotions somewhat more intense .. ( ~ that 'inner' to 'outer' thread link may be of interest ~ ) as and when he gets transits from the short termers .. e.g mars .. etc ( t.mars be opposing his natal merc at moment .. i.e past few days ) so obviously .. recently he's had Mars oppostions to all his Taur placements .. probably over some weeks .. and if the houses are correct .. then .. possibly with cancer Asc .. the Moon and it's transits will may a pronounced effect on how he behaves .. sure has enough in the 11th .. 'friendship' will no doubt be of importance ..
( hah .. just looked at my chart .. for age of 6 .. .. I'll spare you the details :-) ) two really early things i remember .. someone had left a set of bongos in the house .. i got into paying them against some of my parents music records .. mainly 50's stuff .. latin was popular then .. .. that .. and getting a hammer ' nails and any old bit of wood .. and building whatever came to mind .. didn't really matter then that the sleek submarine .. was 2 bloks of wood .. shaped like a brick .. and didn't even float upright .. either way .. they were means of taurean expression .. music (if ya wanna call it that :-)) .. and .. .. building .. constructing .. 'n if you look at where this transits are coming from .. Saturn from the second .. i.e. self value .. Chiron from his seventh .. and .. merc ~ mars ~ venus ~ jupiter and sunshine .. all transiting his 5th .. :-)) listening to Tchaikovsky .. ( may 17 th 1840 ) .. at moment .. on l'radio be well .. ~ HD ~ IP: Logged |
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posted November 28, 2006 01:22 PM
hi future, this was a difficult chart to get a handle on.the problem he seems to be having is uncontrolled and unpredicable violent rage. he has the saturn/chiron,sun/chiron/pluto/saturn and sun/pluto mispoints oppsed to his moon and square to his mars.i assume the current behavior became pronounced at the end of october.if i am correct this current phase of behavior may continue til jan./07 you may check to see if the moon is affecting him.if it is then one would expect the behavior to peak when the moon moves thru the 1st to 6th degree of the mutable cross,i.e.geminii,virgo,sag,pisces. i've post my email on the thread ,"graditude to group" ,if this makes sense and you want more feedback williamIP: Logged |
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posted November 28, 2006 01:38 PM
make sure you give me lot of security, affection, love, etc. I know 'i' was a difficult kid. i] stubborn of course and I need to 'have' everything. problem was severe for me and i was almost desperate because my parents were going through a divorce and I didn't live in a stable environment, and that's just horror for taureans. make sure the home environment is harmonious. His sleeping environment should be very comfy and cozy as well. taureans with their posessiveness, jealousy, and stubbornness will slowly get better, if not diasppear as time goes by depending on the rest of the chart... art/music classes and hiking/nature walks are good for the bull's soul. edit* And good food! edit* Oooo so he has a Cancer ASC.? gotta becareful with this one...make sure he gets lots and lots of reassurance...and love. he may not say/show it, but he'll hurt deeply inside if ignored, he'll automatically think you don't love him. the cancer asc can be simply bizzarre...can't give too attention because you don't want the child to be spoiled, but you don't want to be distant because they'll think they're not loved. and they're extremely sensitive. but your son may be growing up in a better environment than me, and since you're aware of this you are already preventing future difficulties. Sun, Mercury, Jupiter, Juno in Taurus/Scorpio Moon/Cancer Rising.
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