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kindjali
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posted November 27, 2006 10:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kindjali     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have one question for one person:

Is it possible for this person to survive this transits in relationship?

Pluto conjucting Mercury
Pluto conjucting progressive and SA venus
Saturn square Uranus
Uranus opposition Saturn

*all are happening in same time

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kindjali
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posted November 27, 2006 05:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kindjali     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anybody?

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Glaucus
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posted November 27, 2006 06:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Yes

Because of free will.

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kindjali
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posted November 27, 2006 06:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kindjali     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can't understand...Can I make different question...Can this transits make relationship breakdown?
SOmebody told me that only highly spiritually person can resist to such influences.

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posted November 27, 2006 06:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't believe transits make anything. I believe transits are in synchronicity with what happens. I believe that we have the free will to make our own futures. I believe that no matter what challenges we have,we have the free will to make something positive or negative out of them. If a person has challenging transits,it indicates that more effort is needed to maximize potential. Their relationship can be tested,and they have the free will to pass or fail the test. All aspects indicate potential lessons to learn from.

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GeminiLover75
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posted November 27, 2006 08:43 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree with Glaucus! However some circumstances are extremely challenging, and I myself am having doubts about whether my own relationship can survive the challenges that are happening right now. It really all seems like too much to handle. So good luck to you!

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kindjali
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posted November 28, 2006 02:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kindjali     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
THnak You both for reply...I both agree wit you, but wathcing everything through "predictive astrology", can you say that transits are too strong, and something doesnt fit in this relationship? It is not about my relationship, btw.
If we believe in destiny and "Stars", so why that person have this transits? Probably too teach her that this is not relationship for her and that she must learn something more deeper?
Do you got my point?
I know that all transits can be positive or negative, it is about us and our actions, but why is there challenge if everything is smooth?
I got direct answer about my question from 2 astrologist: "THese transits have person that have nothing learned from past. And now they have to pay on some why. This transit can survive only spiritual person".
Agree?

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GeminiLover75
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posted November 28, 2006 03:04 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well the same transits were always going to happen, no matter what lessons the person has or hasn't learned earlier in life. The planets don't move differently for each individual because they did or didn't learn something... however what happens in the person's life at the time might be different. If that makes sense! eg Saturn was always going to be on the DC of me and bf's composite chart at this time - but how we deal with the issues that are coming up is what matters. Like I said though, some things are more challenging than others and will take more work! It could be that your friend should use this time to become more spiritual if that's what the two astrologers recommended... they should put this transformative time to positive use if they can.

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Jan_A
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posted November 28, 2006 04:17 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Glaucus
Don't overestimate the free will ! You can change your attitude, but not the whole situation.
kindjali
these transits aren't the hardest for a relationship.

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kindjali
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posted November 28, 2006 06:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kindjali     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok...Well I noticed that when Uranus and Saturn are involved (x2), relationships are breaking down...got some info on experience from other ppl.

Talking about free will then...how come I CAN'T start something? How can I evade Saturn opposition Venus? How? I can't...like I can't evade Uranus square AC.
So what that does mean? That I can change everything and have nice relationship?

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kindjali
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posted November 28, 2006 06:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kindjali     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gemini...not that this person should become more spiritual...you cant in few months become that.
They said, that only spiritual ppl, can resist double Uranus-Saturn transit.
THey brake down everything, nomatter how strong you resist or try to solve things. Life bring unexpected events that are immposible to predict...and with Pluto on Mercury, they bring on surface your subconscioscnes.
So, only If you are spiritual and "down-to-earth" you can make out "clean".

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Dulce Luna
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posted November 28, 2006 09:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Free will over-estimated?? Sounds ludicrous to me .......

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posted November 29, 2006 03:32 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dulce Luna
There ARE borders. For example you will never be together with Brad Pitt, whatever you do It doesn't mean you shouldn't dream. But you must be brave and see the reality.
Some forumers here are fans of theory "you could save any relationship, if you both work on it". It sounds really great, BUT... I am not sure there are many people, who will do that for a long time. So, factul, this theory DOESN't WORK. Maybe better to learn "letting go" than this wonderful fairy-tale "you could save any relationship" ?

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Dulce Luna
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posted November 29, 2006 07:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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There ARE borders. For example you will never be together with Brad Pitt, whatever you do It doesn't mean you shouldn't dream. But you must be brave and see the reality.
Some forumers here are fans of theory "you could save any relationship, if you both work on it". It sounds really great, BUT... I am not sure there are many people, who will do that for a long time. So, factul, this theory DOESN't WORK.


Ohhhhhh, I see. I thought you meant free-will in feasible situations. My bad.

You know, yous a different kind of pisces...or is because you're a guy?

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kindjali
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posted November 29, 2006 08:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kindjali     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree with Jan_A.
SOmetimes are circumstances so strong, that even with our free will we can't prevail, no matter what we think and want.
Uranus brings ones and Saturn also.
People breakdown...nomatter how strong are they inside. We all have "limits".
"Deep" persons and spiritual ones have this limit more UP, then the others.

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comica23
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posted November 29, 2006 08:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for comica23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi there ^_^ long time that I didn't come to this forum..

Astrology or not, sometimes relationships might have to pass through some better or worse times. When it coms to bad times, you both will have to measure the situation and your relationship with each other: is it worth to put much effort to overcome a situation? it means that you'll have to think of:

- do you both think you that the situation can really be solved even if it requires ultra efforts from both sides?
- if so, do you love each other enough that you want to try hard to save the relationship, even knowing how hard it would be?
- is it really the best for both trying to struggle? (coz sometimes it's better to let go)

Bad moments are not always bad. If both can overcome them, they can learn something very valuable, and it can strengthen the relationship. But sometimes if things can't work out, it is the best to choose to let go. But it is up to the couple to measure if it's solveable and if it's worth or not.

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