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Topic: Question... regarding Capricorn
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miss_muffet
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posted November 29, 2006 07:58 AM
 
Hello everyone...Is there a propensity for people with Capricorn (specifically Moon) influences to be especially dark/depressed? My mother had Scorpio Sun/Capricorn Moon and she was very dark inside... almost always sad and depressed. She took her own life years ago. I was not really brave enough to look into her astrological set up till last night. The description for this combination was not a happy personality at all. Is this because of the Capricorn influence? I am asking because my husband has a Capricorn Asc and he seem to share almost the same dark negative outlook that my mom had, although not to the same extent... at least he has a Sag Sun which brightens him up eventually. I also had a Capricorn Sun friend (I don't remember her birthday) that I gave up on (the friendship) because of her negative outlook... she's very much like "if you are not with me, you are against me" type of person. But it made me question whether it is the Capricorn influence that makes a person sullen... almost sad and negative... sort of like a "glass half empty" type of personality. Any insights is much appreciated and welcomed... thank you in advance. Miss Muffet IP: Logged |
kindjali
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posted November 29, 2006 08:04 AM
Hmmm, I am Cappy, Saggy AC, Piscies Moon.
Well they say for me that I am sometimes dark person, not especially cheerful.
It depends on many things, but we make that kind of impression on outer world, but doesn't mean that we feel the same way inside.
I have a one kind of moto, that will maybe help you to understand Cappies:"Hope for the best, prepare for the worst". K. IP: Logged |
miss_muffet
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posted November 29, 2006 08:28 AM
Thank you for your input, Kindjali... Capricorn is one sign I have a hard time understanding. I find them very intriguing... they can be very sad one time and the next be very happy-go-lucky... almost bipolar like.Miss Muffet IP: Logged |
sue g
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posted November 29, 2006 08:33 AM
Yes I agree...My mother was a Capricorn sun and my sister has it rising. Both dispay/ed negative traits..looking on the bleak side of things.... I found it very difficult living with this energy, as I am a little more optimistic.... IP: Logged |
kindjali
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posted November 29, 2006 08:54 AM
Well, with Cappy you can live or not. There is no middle 
Strangely, as I am one of them, I should logicly find more optimistic and playful woman...but I like Cappy woman. Strange. I like their Grandeur behaviour and sarcasm.K. IP: Logged |
Lauren
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posted November 29, 2006 09:10 AM
This is also a matter of life experience. People with transpersonal signs in Sun/Moon/Asc seem to have odder lives.. not necessarily 'harder', but definitely not usual or easy. There's always the option to look on the bright side or look on the down side, but some events can really tip that balance, and it's not that simple to regain. So I guess you could say there is a propensity for Cap influenced people to have a tough (saturnian) life experience. To some it may lead to depression. Others rise above it and learn to take the good with the bad. IP: Logged |
BlueEyes24
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posted November 29, 2006 09:23 AM
Hmmm...with my mom I've found the opposite. She's a Capricorn with either a Capricorn or Aquarius moon (not sure of her birthtime) and she's always been a very cheerful, happy person. She always tries to look at the positive side of things. She actually reminds me more of a Sag than anything....maybe that's her ASC?My Libra friend has a Capricorn moon and she can be negative at times but she's usually in a good mood. IP: Logged |
1scorp
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posted November 29, 2006 09:24 AM
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kindjali
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posted November 29, 2006 09:28 AM
Yep...I sometimes feel like I have personal fight with Saturn. In my last 3 years of life, I feel like I am on battlefront. If I surrender I am dead, If I fight I lose anyway. :PK. IP: Logged |
1scorp
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posted November 29, 2006 09:29 AM
I'll try to break it up into 2 posts.
From my experience I would say a strong leaning towards being cynic.
I don't think they intend to be so negative, it just seems to come off more serious than it really is.... usually expressed with a lack of light-heartedness. The best thing to keep in mind is... don't take it personal. It's not always about you. My friend takes things very personal... he handles it by holding it all in... which in turn causes depression and/or heaviness. I've walked into the room with my friend and felt a complete shift... almost like lead weights hitting me ... It's worn on me at times... I just usually try to find out what's going on to cause it... (I'm a pest that way)... see if they want to talk about it... I've noticed that if I can get my friend to talk about whatever it is bothering him, I can usually relate (which always feels good when someone else understands), throw my sarcastic spin on it... and we can usually end up laughing at it... _________________________________________
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lovegoblin
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posted November 29, 2006 09:30 AM
"It depends on many things, but we make that kind of impression on outer world, but doesn't mean that we feel the same way inside."I think K makes an excellent point. I have one bro who is a cap. He has gained much financially in life and other capricornish things. He appears to be optimistic, but every once in awhile I have a gut instinct that he is depressed.Maybe something to watch out for in another person-you know-to make sure they are ok. Or maybe there is another more subliminal type of aspect people with low grade forms of depression share. IP: Logged |
1scorp
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posted November 29, 2006 09:33 AM
They take things very personally and are entirely too hard on themselves. I'm well aware that life can really stink sometimes... we can't take it all personally or else we would drive ourselves mad. If he won't budge... I just give him his space and wait it out... but I usually force it out of him. There is one thing that drives me mad though... every time he watches the Colbert Report or the Daily Show... he rants.  I have to get up and find something else to do... or else he would skew my view with all that negative talk. I'm pretty moody myself... so I take it all with a pinch of salt... He's not always like this. To be honest, I have as many dark times as he does... I just deal with mine a little different. Oh, but when he's in a good place... 
Edit - Wow. That was a pretty scattered post.
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posted November 29, 2006 09:38 AM
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posted November 29, 2006 09:40 AM
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CrankyCap
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posted November 29, 2006 09:48 AM
Well, I can't say that I'm immune to the "glass is half empty" outlook, or depression from time to time, but most people never see that side of me. I have Jupiter conjunct my ascendant in Leo in the 1st, and I really think that brightens up my disposition immensly.So, when I am depressed (which DOES happen often) I usually keep it bottled up and put on a happy face for everyone. The only people that can see through it are my mom, and any water sign boyfriends I've had! LOL... However, I think you may be onto something with the Cap moon. I have two close girlfriends who have Cap moons, as well as my sister. My friend with a Leo sun has ALWAYS had problems with severe depression. However, she's kind of like me in that unless you know her VERY well, she'll always put on a happy face. My Gemini sun friend doesn't seem to have much difficulty with depression. I think her Cap moon influences her more in other ways, but she's usually a pretty upbeat person. My Pisces sun sister suffers from depression terribly. Her moods are always up and down, but the strange thing with her is that she almost seems PROUD of her depression and bouts of rage. She never tries to hide it, and I think she likes to milk it for attention. So perhaps the Cap moon is at its absolute WORST under a water sun??? IP: Logged |
Dulce Luna
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posted November 29, 2006 10:56 AM
Oh dear, I have a Cap Asc and yes, I have been prone fall into long dark spells in the past. A sag once told me I have such a poor outlook on life. I guess I can be depressive. I think it has more to do with my loaded 12th house which includes saturn in it. Saturn in the 12th is a very heavy placement to carry. My analytical 8th house moon doesn't help either.IP: Logged |
miss_muffet
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posted November 29, 2006 11:03 AM
Wow... thanks everyone.Interesting observation CC...
So... Water Sun/Cappy Moon has a tendency to be emotionally difficult... very moody. Although generally, I think Cappies are quite serious about life to begin with but I guess when they try to hide them it manifests itself as being moody? Thanks everyone. Miss Muffet IP: Logged |
1scorp
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posted November 29, 2006 11:04 AM
Ooops. I just now noticed the "Capricorn moon" part. Ah, maybe the Capricorn sun reference will still help?
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Atlenta
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posted November 29, 2006 11:23 AM
I have a Capricorn ASC too, and I'm no stranger to the night crazies either. And I so agree about the 8th house moon. I'd thought I'd be depressed forever, because having a saturnian countenance bestowed a natural mindset change towards that. I think it's one good example where thoughts become reality.A friend has Libra sun and Capricorn moon; she is dynamic, assertive and happy always, at least she appears to be. But she has difficulty expressing herself emotionally - as such it's hard to get close - things usually take on formal tones. She can also be cynical and ruthless. I don't think Cap moons are that bad - they're quite made for success, having the emotional structure of responsibility.
Capricorn moon guys are usually very sexy.(re: Johnny Depp, Brad Pitt) IP: Logged |
InLoveWithLife
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posted November 29, 2006 11:30 AM
Hi,
my ex-bf had a scorp sun/cap moon. plus he had a moon square saturn aspect. He was very negative. he was almost proud of his dark, negative thoughts. he revelled in guilt. nothing he ever did was 'good enough'. i deserved a 'better guy'. i really got sick and tired of explaining him every other day why i loved him. he was very sensitive too. i wudnt say bipolar, he mostly seemed to live on south pole some small thing i wud say, and suddenly tht dark mood wud descend. he had a very low sense of self-worth. according to him, he only knew how 'horrible' and 'selfish' he was from inside, and i loved him bcoz i had not yet seen tht side of him. but may i add, he was a really decent, loving and sensitive person. god knws why he saw himself in such a negative way?!!IP: Logged |
AcousticGod
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posted November 29, 2006 12:07 PM
I'm a Cap, and my Sag girlfriend has a Cap Ascendant. She definitely feels like the gloomier one between us. She vacillates quite a bit between positive and negative. Normally, I'm the more anti-social one in my relationships, so it's nice to get to be the jolly one.IP: Logged |
kindjali
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posted November 29, 2006 12:50 PM
Well, I as Cappy with Sagg AC should definetly be more joyful, which I am from time to time. Even my Sagg Mars in 1st house helps...but my moody Piscies Moon together with Cappy Sun make me often feel depressed. My Ex Leo girl told me I have "killers" eyes in that times.K. P.S. With this placements I really don't know what kind of woman should wake me up... IP: Logged |
shirty
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posted November 29, 2006 12:58 PM
I am close to a few Capricorns (or capricorn-influenced individuals, like my sister who has a stellium there), and I have to say that the observations made here are very true of them.I find it hard to deal with my sister especially. We are both Sagittarians born 3 days and 3 years apart. The difference is my stellium in Sag and hers in Capricorn. My optimism always wins in the end, no matter how low I get. She tends to really sulk in the dark side of life, and see the negative in everything. Her Sag sun is really drained by the rest of her chart, not to mention that her Sun is closer to Capricorn than mine is. I think she will start to see the brighter side of life with age and appreciate it more, but part of me worries a lot because there is nothing I can do but to show her the wonders I see. Two other cappy friends of mine are also hard to deal with when they get down. They do not see the bright side as easily as I do, and even with my cheering smile and words they cannot get out of the rut until they make a 'plan.' I have to say that is my most common observation in the cappy's i know.. making 'the plan.' they don't realize that they are not always at the source of the problem.. sometimes they just need to let it go..  IP: Logged |
InLoveWithLife
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posted November 29, 2006 01:19 PM
BTW, i am myself a cappy sun. may be that is why i cud put up with my bf's negativity for so looong. even tho i wasnt happy with him, i didnt even realize it. and didn't want to let go of him bcoz i felt tht he needed me to bring some optimism and happiness into his life , not realizing tht wht was actually happening was tht he was filling mine with negativity. in the end he broke up with me bcoz of his inferiority complex. and tht was really hard for me to take.I think the reason i got attracted to him was tht whn i met him, i myself had been depressed, and his seriousness attracted me. Now i am out of it completely. i don't get depressed tht easily now. ppl wud describe me as a no-non sense person, but nowhere close to 'sad'. my moon in gemini gives me a lot of emotional buoyancy. i stay away from negative people, bcoz i know i hv a tendency to get sucked into their sorrows. But one thing is sure, cappies do have a hard life, atleast harder than most. it can become a downward spiral. life sucks, cappy gets depressed, and then it sucks all the more. IP: Logged |
teaologist
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posted November 29, 2006 02:56 PM
My mom is a Cap Sun wth a Cap Asc. She suffers more from intense anxiety than depression (hypochondria, panic attacks, always worried that the sky's a-falling). These attacks stem from the same kind of pessimistic attitude described above. She 'sublimates' by thoroughly planning and preparing for disaster (double-edged sword). She sometimes reminds me of Meryl Streep's character from 'A Series of Unfortunate Events.' Her Moon is in Aqua opp Pluto. At the same time, her Moon is also conj Venus and Jupiter. Soo she kind of ... swings. Her energy used to freak me out, but now I accept her as she is (someone who just wants to make sure all her little ducks are in a row, including my dad). We both laugh about it. She says age and experience did a good thing for her because her youth was very lonely. Capricorns may have a tendency to get depressed, but they sure are strong! Maybe you should look at other aspects in your husband's chart to tell what he should emphasize in order to avert the 'negative' energy? *edit ... I have no Cap placements, but I have hard aspects from Saturn to my Sun, Moon and Asc.
Moreover, my Sun/10th opposes Saturn/4th. Supposed to be something bad about a planet opposing the house it traditionally rules. Ehh, anyway, I'm also prone to depression. IP: Logged | |
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