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posted December 01, 2006 08:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for peace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Possible indicators:

Houses:
Uranus in the 5th house
Uranus in the 7th house
Uranus in the 8th house
Moon in the 11th house
Venus in the 11th house

Aspects:
Moon trine/sextile/conjunct Uranus
Venus trine/sextile/conjunct Uranus

Am I right?.

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xrâräx
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posted December 01, 2006 11:34 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Peace!

Very interesting what u are pointing out. I think u are right

I've noticed that most of the gay males I've known have strong Mars/Uranus aspects.

And in gay females there is a lot of Aries, Gemini and Aquarius influence (at least, in most birthcharts I've seen)

I have Venus Trine Uranus in my chart, and I'm bisexual.

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Glaucus
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posted December 01, 2006 11:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Here is chart of Rupaul. He's definitely gay. He is like a gay icon.


was born November 17th, 7:58 p.m. at Mercy Hospital in San Diego, California. When asked what she named her baby boy, my Mother replied, "His name is RuPaul Andre Charles and he's gonna be a star! Cause ain't another mother f**ker alive with a name like that!"

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posted December 01, 2006 01:24 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
looks like rupaul has venus trine uranus w/ 8 degree orb.

uranus square moon with an 11 degree orb. but on second look, square was not mentioned.

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teaologist
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posted December 01, 2006 02:31 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Umm ... I have
Venus in Gem in the 11th
Uranus in Sag in the 5th
Venus opp Uranus
Moon trine Uranus

Oh yeah, the ruler of my 7th and 8th houses is Uranus (using Placidus anyway).

Umm ... I am heterosexual, but I have def always had an immense fascination with feminine beauty. I have art/photo books that celebrate the female body. Curves, eyes, cheekbones, eyebrows, neck, shoulders, back, clavicles, etc. We carry them nicely! My feelings aren't really sexual though, just stem from a lot of awe.

If this counts, before I grew into my body, I had a very androgynous look, dressed like a tomboy, wore my hair short, and would sometimes get mistaken for a boy. I dress very feminine now.

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darkdreamer
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posted December 01, 2006 02:32 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
An German astrologer wrote an article about that subject, called "The Icarus Effect" http://cura.free.fr/decem/08weidn.html

He sais that the sexual pattern of everyone, not just homosexual people, is connected to the fix houses, 2nd, 5th, 8th and 11th.
He also sais, that in our society a connection between 5th and 11th house indicates "unusual sexual behavioral pattern", which can be homosexuality; but that is only, because the norm in our society is "being heterosexual"; and Uranus needs to go beyond that norm. If our society was mainly a homosexual one, then Uranus could point towards heterosexual orientation. You know, Uranus wants to be different.

However, connection mean in this case:
a strong Sun-Uranus-aspect (conjunction, square, Opposition, solstice-aspect9
(Sun in 11)
Uranus in 5
the ruler of 5 in 11
the ruler of 11 in 5
strong aspects between the ruler of 5 and 11
Uranus in strong aspect to the cusp of the 5th house with an Orb of 1°).

Let`s check RuPaul`s horoscope:
Uranus is solstice the 5th house cusp
Uranus in 2nd house is exactly square Sun in 5th house


Well the interpretation would be like that (according to this astrology school):
He has unusual physical needs (Uranus in 2), which will be expressed in his behaviour, creativity and sexual expression (Uranus in 2 solstice 5th house cusp). Also the Sun-Uranus-square emphasizes this.
Sun in 5th house indicates very strong need for selfexpression, including all 5th house - traits like play, creative projects, romance, fun and sex of course.
Also, the ruler of 2nd and 8th house are involved in this, because Sun as ruler of 2nd house is in 5 and Uranus as ruler of 8th house is in 2; both placements have a lot to do with sexual expression and also deeper sexual needs and what he is seeking in relationships.
Additionally the sun is ruler of 3rd house and falls into 5th house. In that astrological school they see the 3rd house as the house of "physical expression", how you communicate, how you dress, how you talk, how you sing, in short: how you show yourself; so in this case it could be interpreted as: he shows his sexual orientation very clearly, doesn`t hide it, maybe even use it to gain publicity.

Mmh, but being homosexual is only ONE way to express such a strong Uranus.
For example: they say, the ruler of the 2nd house in 11th house could be an indication for homosexuality, too; the physical needs and qualities (2nd house) are different from others, out of the norm (11th house); someone who is different because of his instinctual, physical being.
One way to express that could be a homosexual lifestyle; another one could be having the Down-syndrome (my brother, who has the down-syndrome, actually has an aquarius-ascendant and Mars as ruler of 2 in 11) or you could be a model or having risky hobbies like paragliding or similiar things; sport, which are unusual, mostly dangerous and involve your body and physical skills.

Having said that I myself have Uranus exactly opposite my 5th house cusp, and I don`t consider myself homosexual. Well, you can never know, but I don`t feel drawn to my own sex at that time and haven`t done so in the past.
But I am different when it comes to the 5th house-things; have been living in celibate for the most part of my life.
Oh and in my case, Uranus is ruler of the 3rd house without any strong aspects.
Maybe in my case it just meanst that I think and talk (3rd house) too much about sex (5th house). lol
Okay, I think this is a good point to stop.

DD

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posted December 01, 2006 04:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I didn't want to discuss his chart because I didn't want to get into a debate. Some people might get on my case for talking about an aspect,and they say have that that.

DD,

Great insight. I did notice that Sun in Scorpio in 5th square Uranus in Leo in 2nd is nearly exact in his chart which can indicate unusual values in regards to sexual romantic expression. With it being the closest aspect in chart, that would indicate the strongest theme in his chart. That aspect would raise some serious noise!

I also find that every one of his planets are in feminine signs except for Uranus, which is the planet of the unconventional any way,very interesting. Therefore he could really strongly relate to the feminine more than he can male. Also..all his angles are in feminine signs. The ruler of his chart is the Moon which is also his Guiding planet and is in 5th house It's like he uses his inner woman to help him in his show business career. He dresses like a woman. That's what he is mostly known for. He does it very well...like a fashion model. I actually one of the best looking men in drag. He is a star like his mother said. There is even a Rupaul doll that is selling nicely.

His Moon-Mercury-Neptune conjunction in Scorpio in 5th sextile Pluto in 3rd looks good for music industry as well as entertainment industry overall. He had his own talk show too.

Rupaul's site http://www.rupaul.com/bio/index.shtml

I had been mistaken for female more than once in my life. My mother told me as a baby. I was mistakened for a girl when I was with my mom. I was 12 at the time. I was also mistaken for a girl by some girls when I was 14.


Facial hair and short hair on the head helps tone down the adrogenous looks. I have high cheek bones and I have naturally long curly eyelashes that are longer than most. Females playfully teased me about that,but they really loved the eyelashes. I would say my eyes is my best feature due to my eyelashes. Males gave me a hard time though. The androgenous appear might be indicated by the combination of my Virgo Ascendant and its ruler,Mercury in feminine sign,Scorpio conjunct and parallel Venus and parallel Neptune. I also wonder about my Pluto in Libra in 1st in mutual reception with Venus in Scorpio in 3rd and sextile Neptune in 3rd can indicate my adrogenous looks and voice. My Sun Scorpio trine Pisces Moon are in watersigns which are feminine signs which indicates that I can easily identify with the feminine. I believe that its the natural feminine Moon in Pisces square my Neptune in 3rd house that could indicate my adrogenous communications. Of course my Mercury-Venus conjunction in Scorpio in 3rd parallel Neptune in 3rd can indicate my adrogenous voice which sounds young and gentle that gives the impression of being harmless and innocent which also makes me a magnet to get bullied and for my strength to be underestimated. It's my adrogenous looks and voice that gets some people mistake me for being gay.
I loved going clubbing/dancing in nightclubs when I was in the navy. When I was stationed in Alameda, I loved clubbing in San Francisco. I was stationed in San Diego afterwards,and I didn't care much for the clubs there because the dance floor was too small for my taste. I actually drank more alcohol when I was in San Diego to help me more sociable in the clubs. I am a very good dancer,and I wasn't afraid to be the first one on the dance floor and dance in front of a lot of people. I also wrote a lot of poetry in my teenage years.

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posted December 01, 2006 05:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is interesting and I have read this post with greater depth. There's always talk about whether astrology can be used to "determine" if someone is gay.

I have one lesbian friend and one relative. The friend does have a predominance of aries, she is very independent but I don't know her birth time.

The relative is a cancerian with lib rising. Her 5th house is ruled by Aqu (just, can be debated that it is cap) and Ura is in the 11th conj both mars and venus! These are all in leo. Nothing else of interest

My male gay friend has NN conj Ura, both in 4th house in libra. Pluto sits on the IC (sco is his 5th house cusp) but it has no aspects of interest. Nothing else of interest.


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posted December 01, 2006 08:03 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
RuPaul also has Sun square Uranus (both 25 degrees)

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posted December 01, 2006 08:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Daydreamer,

That's already been pointed out first by DarkDreamer. I already mentioned that he has a nearly exact Sun in Scorpio in 5th square Uranus in Leo in 2nd.

" I did notice that Sun in Scorpio in 5th square Uranus in Leo in 2nd is nearly exact in his chart which can indicate unusual values in regards to sexual romantic expression. With it being the closest aspect in chart, that would indicate the strongest theme in his chart. That aspect would raise some serious noise!"

His Sun square Uranus is 5 minutes of arc.

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posted December 01, 2006 08:21 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry I skimmed everyones posts and must have missed that point.

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