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InLoveWithLife
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posted December 04, 2006 10:00 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi,

is there a way to predict professional success, or aptitude in various fields? does it depend solely on the 10th house and planets placed thr or the rest of the chart too? What can the planets placed in 10th say about the career choice? If the 10th house is vacant, does it show that career is not as much of a priority ??

any insights wud be appreciated,
ILWL

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InLoveWithLife
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posted December 04, 2006 10:09 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok, I'm sorry...i guess i posted on the wrong forum...i found an exhaustive thread on 'labor's of love'.

thanks!

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posted December 04, 2006 10:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I imagine because of the number of professions out there, there would be a number of configurations, aspects etc that would be applicable and vary according to profession to give the person the right aptitude for the profesion. It also depends as to what you define as successful, happiness in the profession that you are in, fame or money or sense of a achievement?

There's just too many to think of. I would say that something like Jupiter in the 10th would be good for everyone.

I'd say that no planets in the 10th does not show the likelihood of career success. Any planets in the 10th just shows was preoccupation the person has with in the career/public field or how there is not much modification to the MC (regardless if conj to MC or just being simply present in the 10th).

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AcousticGod
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posted December 05, 2006 12:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You can place your post here. It's more likely to be seen here than there. I'd be happy to try to help. (If I lose track of this thread, email me a reminder. My emails in my profile.) Some charts are more difficult than other with regard to careers.

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InLoveWithLife
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posted December 05, 2006 03:33 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks a lot AG!

ya i guess the other forum is less frequented. i wil post my chart here.

basically, my query is that right now i am a grad student involved with research in an engineering discipline. BUT, the problem is that i am a very 'people' person. its hard to explain, but if i take the Jung test, my profile comes out to be that of INFJ...that is introvert, intuitive, feeling, judgemental. this is the ideal profile for a counselor, and that is what i really identify with too. in real life, i hv people coming up to me for advice ALL the time. and i love to teach. However, the job of a teacher seems very dead end to me. i guess tht can be attributed to my Aries MC. so wht other career options cud be good for me? cud i be successful as a technical manager, for instance?

here's my chart

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comica23
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posted December 05, 2006 06:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for comica23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi there XD was just wandering in the LL forum, and this thread caught my curiousity.. :P
I'm also an INFJ XD btw lol.. I'm not good for astrological analysis for others yet, but I can relate it when you said that you are "people" person.. Relationships with others are very important, and INFJ needs to feel needed and capable of helping others.. when anything happens, they try to smooth everything without too much turbulence.. they always want to keep the peace, so they avoid fights.. do you feel like this also? XD
Maybe INFJ are more relationship oriented than carreer.. but maybe jobs that requires good analyzing skills, and also good sense of diplomacy, and also humanitarian jobs in which you can help others?
Maybe being a teacher is bored as you might prefer to help a person spiritually/emotionally, and teach them something that is very insightful for and inspiring in life? And if someone can apply the knowledge they aquire from you it would even be better?

In my case, I have an 8th house Aries stellium with Sun, Moon, Venus, Mercury and some other asteroids in it.. no matter how distant or shy I am with strangers, once a strong bond is formed, I'm very affected by these relationships.. ^_^; and I dig into depths of these relationships.. everything in an intense and over passionate way lol..
I want like to feel needed and appreciated, and if someone that I come to admire and this person acknowledges my skills and power, then I would really be happy and hard work for him/her lol (for example, a very admireable boss XD )..

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posted December 05, 2006 07:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When you say "engineering" discipline, what are you referring to? There are so many different types of engineers. Do you think you can be an engineer? I also don't know what your definition of a technical manager is, so it's hard to say if you'd be successful in it.

If I were to guess what you mean by Technical Manager I'd think you were talking about consulting. People would come to you to ask how to do things in your area of expertise. Is that correct? If so, I don't see any reason why you couldn't.

What I see in your chart is your Air Grand Trine. Air symbolizes to me intellectual activity, humanitarianism, art (shape and form), and communications.

Here's one interpretation of Sun Square MC:

You really want to make your mark on the world in some way, to achieve stature and recognition for your contributions, and you're not willing to take a back seat -- at least not for very long. In order to achieve your aims, though, you'll have to compromise and "give" more than you may be willing to. Thus, conflicts with others, particularly important men in your life, may arise. To accomplish your goals, you may have to put aside some of your self-centeredness, and learn from these men! However, you may also be required at some point to make a break in order to stand on your own and fulfill your own destiny.

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InLoveWithLife
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posted December 05, 2006 07:28 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi comica23!

that's exactly it!! glad to meet a fellow INFJ...if i tell how i feel to most people they'll think i am crazy


quote:
I can relate it when you said that you are "people" person.. Relationships with others are very important, and INFJ needs to feel needed and capable of helping others.. when anything happens, they try to smooth everything without too much turbulence.. they always want to keep the peace, so they avoid fights

that's exactly how i feel....i feel really nice when i can help someone out of their distress and give them hope, or a brand new way of looking at things...dont need praise as much as acknowledgment...my biggest reward is when someone leaves happier than when they came in...

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Maybe INFJ are more relationship oriented than career

this is sooo true for me....that is why i asked whether a lack of planets in the 10th indicates less ambition.

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but maybe jobs that requires good analyzing skills, and also good sense of diplomacy, and also humanitarian jobs in which you can help others?
Maybe being a teacher is bored as you might prefer to help a person spiritually/emotionally, and teach them something that is very insightful for and inspiring in life? And if someone can apply the knowledge they aquire from you it would even be better?

unfortunately it is too late for me to totally change tracks...i am doing a phd in an engineering discipline. i cud become a professor.....teaching wud be great....but i think i lack that kind of motivation to do research that comes as part of the package !
i was wondering if i shud think about becoming a manager....that ways i wud be more in direct contact with people....darn!! why didnt i take the jung test whn i was a teenager!!

i have 3 planets in my 7th house...and i feel that i am at my best in one-on-one interactions with people. not so good in group situations where i tend to recede into the background. i like to bounce ideas off people, indeed i discover a lot of things abt myself in close interactions with others...facets of myself tht i didnt think existed....i work much better in a team than alone. i tend to get into a rut and lose motivation working alone. absolutely need to have ppl around me, whether its work or personal life.

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InLoveWithLife
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posted December 05, 2006 07:41 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
When you say "engineering" discipline, what are you referring to? There are so many different types of engineers. Do you think you can be an engineer? I also don't know what your definition of a technical manager is, so it's hard to say if you'd be successful in it.

Hi AG, i am a mechanical engineer...did my undergrad in India from one of the top colleges. Right now i am doing a phd in same. by technical manager i mean that I can join a company working in my area of expertise, and aim to become a manager there. another option is entrepreneurship...ie, i start my own company if i can come up with a creative idea and convince someone to finance it. Yet another idea is that i do all of these, AND write a book in my area of expertise.

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What I see in your chart is your Air Grand Trine. Air symbolizes to me intellectual activity, humanitarianism, art (shape and form), and communications.

I think i am good at communication...one-on-one as well as in public speaking ( not toooo public...max i have done take a class as part of my teaching assistant duties ). but i am good at those. i am also good at writing. and well, i do kind of live in my world of ideas and feelings. and have some talent in drawing, painting and a wee bit of singing....

i think i am getting really vague and not making things any clearer tell me if i have u even more confused than u were before

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InLoveWithLife
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posted December 05, 2006 07:55 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
1. I want to make it BIG. make an impact. precisely wht u said abt sun sq MC.

2. i want to make BIG money (ahhh...the cappy lust for money surfaces at last), and make it FAST (the aries MC i guess)

3. i don't like to work under people. as in, can never do sth someone tells me blindly. or in a shoddy way. like to go deep into things.

4. like to work with people. best in a small team of people. some of my best ideas come to me in discussion with others.

5. can empathise with people, but never ever be dishonest or fake something. for eg, if i don't like someone, its next to impossible for me to be all pally with them. ideally i'd like to be able to choose the people i work with :P

6. am a very idealistic, dreamy (and i fear unrealistic) person. an INFJ...

i wish i was a psychiatrist, but i am not. wht is the next best option for me considering all of the points 1-6. ? manager? entrepreneur? writer? teacher?

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posted December 05, 2006 08:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, that helps a bit.

I saw that you said you have 3 planets in the 7th, but I don't see that in your chart. I also have three planets in my 7th (Mercury, Venus, and Neptune).

Mechanical Engineer sounds great to me! I'd love to create things from nothing. You should make me a robot!

With that background, you can do lots of social things. Every business seems to have ways that you can be social. With True Node in Leo your lesson for this life is actually to disassociate with people to a higher degree, and find the value in yourself.

Communications is a good route for you. You're most lucky/fortunate when you act Libran in the 3rd (Jupiter).

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InLoveWithLife
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posted December 05, 2006 08:09 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi AG !!

see, that's the whole problem...i am no good at creating 'things'....or at anything physical...now i can come up with great ideas, and make them work on paper....hehe...so i'll make u a robot on paper making something that one can hold and work with, tht's just not me!!! wud need someone else to do tht for me

and i am good with people....in a very empathizing kind of fashion. my sun is at the end of 6th house....so is interpreted as in 7th house (anyways if i was born even a minute earlier it wud be in 7th...and u knw birthtimes r not that accurate)

wht u said made sense to me tho...i think i shud get into business...gosh i wanna make money!!

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InLoveWithLife
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posted December 05, 2006 08:17 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
you are right AG!! actually, i was all set to become a teacher....due to my aforesaid INFJ tendencies. but the problem with that i guess is that it doesnt go with my Leo NN....recently i hv started to realize (even before i knew wht NN was) that i needed to get more confidence in myself....be more independent than just empathizing with others. i probably need to get into something that wud help me to find my own value as an individual.

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posted December 05, 2006 08:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well you could do teaching as your 6th house cusp is sag. Also 8th house cusp is Aqu, which goes nice with investigation and science and things like that. Jupiter is in teh 3rd (ruler of 6th), so you would have a knack of communicating as well as making it fun and personal - venus/sun in 6th. With third house ruled by virgo, it would give you the critical facilities to be a teacher and saturn conj jup in 3rd would give you the "authority" to be a teacher. Uranus in 5th and being in 8th shows a love of scientific pursuits or anything that is new, innovative, techological. Kids would love it.

Also with Aries MC, you want to be the conquerer - to be no. 1
With Leo on 2nd house cusp - you certainly want to show the rest of the world about it.

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InLoveWithLife
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posted December 05, 2006 08:22 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi 23,
that was quite insightful too....hmmm...thr's a bit of teacher in me i know....but becoming a teacher wont allow me to be no 1....or show it to the rest of the world

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InLoveWithLife
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posted December 05, 2006 08:24 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i'll probably write a book....that ways i can show it to the rest of the world AND be the teacher....and if i make it fun/personal, it will sell *wink*

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posted December 05, 2006 08:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How is your humour? I think you could make it as a comedian. With 6th house sag and all the other stuff and NN in leo/1st might indicate a love of attention

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InLoveWithLife
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posted December 05, 2006 08:31 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oooooo.....tht wud be nice.....i recently discovered my funny side...ummm...have a sense of humor similar to Sid the sloth in Ice Age....

unfortunately....the cappy sun and cancer asc make me a bit shy....but once i feel comfortable with someone, i love to laugh and make them laugh

i am going with the fun-book-on-science idea for the time being

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InLoveWithLife
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posted December 05, 2006 08:43 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
just a side note....all this chit chat and bouncing off of ideas has once again made me much more clear abt wht i wanna do....precisely why i am such a 'people' person
i looove exchange of ideas....simply love to talk....not even necessarily teach....find tht a bit taxing now.
ooooo but i am in love with the idea of bringing humor and creativity into my professional life....thanks 23 and AG !!

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wilsontc
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posted December 06, 2006 11:38 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ILWL,

Since you have Leo (self-expression) modifying your North node (future goals) focused in the 1rst house (being), you are developing your personal self-expression about who and what you are. Any job you have will have to acknowledge you and give you LOTS of recognition for the things you do!

Crediting,

Tim

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astrostudent
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posted December 06, 2006 02:25 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
InLoveWithLife

we have quite a few things in common..I wanna do a PhD..still hasn't started..I'D agree to most of what u've been saying!

Look at my chart u will find some pattern there (BTW, I guess mine was INSJ)

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InLoveWithLife
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posted December 06, 2006 04:02 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I see wht u mean, astrostudent!

u hv merc and mars in 7th, besides your 7th house is libra! and then u hv those neptune aspects. but then again your NN is in Leo in 1st. oh, and u r also a moon in gem...so u wud be big on communication. and the uranus aspects wud make u freedom loving. lots of air in your chart in fact.

oh, and u hv a fire grand trine with your leo nn, why do u wanna get into phd?? just curious

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comica23
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posted December 06, 2006 05:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for comica23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
InLoveWithLife, I also find it hard to get motivated when I work alone.. >.<; I was always in a kind of healthy competion with my best friend at school before going to university.. Now I feel a bit lonely and harder to study lol.. T_T Btw, I'm also into engineer.. :P Computer Engineering lol..
I also prefer to work with a small group, and can't really accept to be under someone that is not good enough in my eyes and that doesn't justify the orders lol.. But I don't feel like being on top of the tops, as I don't have that much of ambition.. ^_^; I prefer to be the assistant/helper of the person in this position lool (maybe coz of my Virgo ascendant?).
I can't work without relating even a bit emotionally with others thought, even if we can just be friends.. as I'm bad at superficial relating.. >_<; I've always dreamt to have a job in which the group of people I come to work with would be my 2nd family lool.. but maybe that's just to idealistic..

Well anyways, as a fellow INFJ, hope you can find your ideal carreer! ^_^

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astrostudent
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posted December 07, 2006 03:35 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well..I wanna reach the top! cappy MC & Aries ASC drive me crazy I always set goals which are beyond myself which is partly here too..

BTW,where r u doin ur PhD..I am appin for US

And, my NN is in 5th house if I am not wrong..pretty strong craving for recognition and spotlight but with virgoic influences,I find it diff to express myself..cud be sun conj. saturn as well hey, did u notice the 6th house similarities?!

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