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AcousticGod
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posted December 21, 2006 06:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I haven't been sleeping too well this week so far, and (I think) as a result I've been a little extra emotional and moody and just feeling crap at times.

Today I went to astro.com and found out I have Venus Square Chiron. I just looked and if the transit reports are in real time I'm currently within one degree of a perfect square. (Ah, I notice now that they aren't in real time. They're at 0:00:00 UT.)

So here's the transit interpretation from them:

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Easily irritated
During this time you probably feel hurt, offended or ignored and therefore you have withdrawn into yourself, and do not allow anyone to get really close to you. At the same time, though, deep down you want to participate, enjoy life, love and be loved. Nevertheless, you should not expect too much of yourself in this respect. You probably need seclusion or a withdrawal to get over everything. In that case you should not bury yourself in your pain as that will not make things better. You will possibly find that the behavior of the other person was unintentional, and that your present situation mainly mirrors your own sensitivity.

I'm wondering if this transit could be contributing to my less-than-sound sleep.

Oh, you know what? I also have Sun Square Moon in transit, which I have natally as well, but that could also be contributing...

... *curse curse* I've got Moon Square Chiron as well!!! WTF?!

If it's these transits, I CAN'T WAIT FOR THE 23RD!!! Then it'll just be Jupiter sitting on Neptune (which I'm glad to learn about now rather than later - thanks for the warning astro.com ).

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Happy Dragon
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posted December 22, 2006 05:31 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A.G. what's been going on ..

Mars is in sag .. has just past (1 deg.) conjoining your venus
Lillith has just passed conjoining your moon .. then pluto .. and is about 1 deg past a square to your sun .. and a few deg from opposing your chiron ..
over the last 4 days the moon has been moving thru sag and cappy .. so you get a bunch of conjunctions plus a couple of squares from her movements thru those two signs ..
(edited to add ) .. yeah venus has been squaring your chiron over the past two days .. she seems to be moving quite fast .. and will conjoin your jupiter over xmas :-))

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AcousticGod
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posted December 22, 2006 11:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, another bad sleep last night. I even drank two beers to see if that would help. It helped mellow me out, but didn't help me sleep. It seems like my body gets to rest, but my mind doesn't seem to want to shut off. I do have dreams, but when I awake from them I don't feel like I was asleep. I'm so glad most of this bad stuff will be over tomorrow.

Gotta try for a good sleep tomorrow night. I have to catch a flight at 7:30 in the morning Sunday.

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virgotaurustaurus
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posted December 22, 2006 11:29 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
AG I totally feel your pain, and makes me wonder about Venus semisquaring my Chiron right now. I haven't been able to sleep well for a week either, last night I gave up and stayed up till 6 AM playing videogames because when I went to bed I'd just roll around for hours. Gah!!

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Happy Dragon
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posted December 22, 2006 12:06 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ag ..
some relax muzak on the server at mo.
tomita's 'snowflakes are dancing' .. (part 1 .. .. 20 of 40 min ..)
thought it about time i got the tape digitised .. as the tape is as old as the album ..
it was off vinyl to start with .. so maybe be some needle scratches here 'n there ..

.. they might help you sleep ;-) .. u have an inflight mp3 player ?? ..

1 .. 12.2 meg http://www.happydragon.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/jkbx/tomita.01.mp3

2 .. 11.2 meg http://www.happydragon.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/jkbx/tomita.02.mp3

here's the album blurb http://www.isaotomita.net/recordings/snowflakes.html

have a good flight .. enjoy thyself :-)

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AcousticGod
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posted December 22, 2006 12:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm kind of surprised a 12.2 Meg song just started playing instantly. Thought I'd be waiting some. I'm listening now. This first one sounds a bit like my mind in my sleep lately. I'm not sure if it would calm my brain or stimulate it....

..oh here's a calmer part. Kinda dreamy. I like this part. (First half of the 3rd minute)

EDIT: (Time has passed. I'm listening to the second one.) This is good stuff. I love the ambient quality of it. It's so gracefully sparse in places. I love how everything seems to fade in and out. Stuff like this always seems so Geminian to me. It's like tangent after tangent.

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posted December 22, 2006 02:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What is happening in the 12th house, what is happening to the ruler of the 12th house and what is happening to your n-neptune?

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AcousticGod
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posted December 22, 2006 04:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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jwhop
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posted December 22, 2006 04:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well acoustic, you have a very active transit chart...lots going on, mostly positive.

I would have thought...from what you said that Neptune was involved..perhaps square or opposition to your Moon..or Sun but more likely your Moon, but no.

23 alluded to Neptune as well.

Sorry, it wasn't what I thought.

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ineedlove
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posted December 22, 2006 05:04 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have chiron square venus now

That probably explains why I'm single

I have a taurus venus
And the current transit for chiron is Aquarius

Oh poor me! Poor you! Poor us!

But don't worry I'm sure we will get through this with God's mercy!!!

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AcousticGod
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posted December 22, 2006 05:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jupiter's sitting on Neptune apparently, but would it expand my dreams to a waking state? It really feels like my mind isn't shutting down. Of course Mars is nearby as well.

I have high hopes for tonight. Should be coming out of the squares, and it's the weekend, so hopefully everything will go well.

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posted December 22, 2006 05:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You have a Mercury sextile Neptune transit too.

Hopefully, whatever it is will clear up.

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AcousticGod
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posted December 22, 2006 05:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If my mood's any indication, then it already is. I feel much less stressed than I've been feeling.

Yeah, that Neptune sextile Mercury has been happening for awhile. It's nearly exact in the chart I posted. Will be losing it shortly.

You know, it's interesting to see where Neptune is currently transitting. I hadn't noticed. I wonder how much it transitting my MC might have influenced me to pick up and read Think And Grow Rich. That's interesting.

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posted December 22, 2006 06:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, I don't know about Neptune conjuncting your Midheaven as a causative agent acoustic...but it's still hanging in there.

Your Second House trines Fortune now too.

As for your mood and stress, Mars squares Saturn and it's applying so it will be around for a while.

I thought at first..when I looked at your transits...that you might be having woman problems

Obviously, you've had something on your mind.

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posted December 22, 2006 06:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hmmm....

You might have had problems sleeping because your n-neptune was recently conj t-mars. I imagine mars would act as both a stimulant and antagonist to neptune indicating that you might have had probs sleeping

t-Moon is also semi-squ or will be very soon semi-squ n-nep indicating that you might have had trouble last night. Notice how moon is in the 8th house and roughly squaring your 12th house cusp. This will pass in the next few hours

There is also a squ between t-ura and n-nep which might have affected you in the last year or bit. Again ura is probably not letting you sleep too well, too much of a shocker and stimulant. It would've also in recent years squ your n-mars (ruler of 12th) and made you quite irritable and maybe sleep deprived (now passed).

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AcousticGod
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posted December 22, 2006 06:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, I hadn't thought about the Saturn Square Mars. I don't think that would have caused this stuff this week, though.

My girlfriend and I have been good. I wish I could bring her with me for Christmas, but it's not in the cards this year.

Something on my mind? Well, yeah, I was feeling a weird stress earlier this week, and I was trying to figure out what it is, because even though there are some stressors around they shouldn't affect me THIS much. I thought I might be absorbing other people's Christmas stress or something, but if I can chalk it up to astrology I'm good with that. I'm so glad to be coming out of these squares today.

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posted December 22, 2006 06:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yes and as you mentioned, 12th house ruler mars is squ saturn - restrictions in sleep

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