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izodesmozina
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posted December 24, 2006 04:59 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Fluke
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posted December 24, 2006 09:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fluke     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi again

With connections like these I really don't think there is much one can do about it, except to just go with the flow and let whatever it's about ride itself out like it's suppose to...
I have noticed that some things (most things, actually) have a life of it's own and some kind of purpose, that tend to play itself out as it should, no matter what we do.. Good luck

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posted December 25, 2006 06:12 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for answering, Tina!
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posted January 01, 2007 08:16 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know exactly what you mean.... I have had a karmic relationship


I still can't get over him(it's been over 2 and a half years already)....

I feel like apart of me is missing now that we are no longer together....

My sun and venus conjunct his chiron(taurus)
His North Node conjunct my moon(leo)
My Chiron conjunct hi venus(gemini)
His venus in my 12th house(gemini)
His mercury and sun conjunct my ascendant (cancer)

Sounds like a soul mate huh?

Katie

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posted January 01, 2007 08:19 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also I forgot to add that my N-Node is conjunct his venus in gemini

I miss him so much. I wonder if he misses me too?

Katie

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posted January 02, 2007 04:42 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Karmic relationships SUCK... in addition to a whole lot of other planets I now hate, I also now hate my North Node. Rant over about my SAD PATHETIC LOVE LIFE.

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izodesmozina
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posted January 03, 2007 05:06 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
~Katie, I'm very sorry about your relationship. I share some of your aspectes with this guy and I can understand. But karmic relationships have the nasty habit of reappearing in one's life. I am sure I'll meet this guy again, perhaps when things will be less complicated. Maybe it will happen for you and your ex, as well.
~Hello again, GeminiLover! I agree I hate it too.

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posted January 03, 2007 05:22 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just realized today that my love interest and I have double whammy NN-Chiron aspects. We have teo other sets of double whammy aspects (Sun-Venus and Sun-Uranus) plus several other nodal aspects too (we each have planets conjunct to others nodes, both SN and NN, plus some other aspects). Then there's our Saturn aspects. (*cringe*

It scares me at times. I really like him, but part of me thinks I out to get out before this thing turns into something like the bonus round of some cosmic gameshow called "Karma's A B*tch"!

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izodesmozina
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posted January 03, 2007 05:32 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I hear you, Gemini Nymph! NN/Chiron is a hard aspect to digest since it can go both ways, healing and wounding.

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posted January 10, 2007 05:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fluke     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, I wish you the best of luck, Izo...
Don't know if it helps, but.. This summer I was soooo in love with a guy, he was originally a friend of my best friend, but when they arranged for him to rent a room in her house I met him, and the attraction was instant. I fell madly in love, and he "fell madly in sex", heh heh.
Meaning, I liked him, and he wanted to have sex with me.
Anyway, I knew that last year my best friend was in love with him... But that was one year ago, and she had told me several times that se was over him, and she also shoved me this in her actions, she had been with at least 7 guys since then.. But since I knew that she HAD been in love with him I never told her that I was really attracted to him. But in a couple of months time this became really obvious.. And one night after a party at her house I stayed in his room..
I tiptoed back to the couch I was supposed to sleep on before she woke up, but of course I broke down and told her what happened shortly after she got up, and also told her that I had been attracted to him for some time and that I had felt really bad about the whole situation.
She said this came as a bit of a shock, and she asked me to please take it slowly with him because she wasn't sure she was able to cope with it, but she assured me she was over him!! Several times!!
To make a long story shorter, heh heh, not long after this, after me and him did exactly what we wanted when we wanted, thank you very much, I got totally dismissed from my/our entire circle of friends, since another friend of his, a girl who had also been in love with him at some point, had become my best friends NEW best friend, convinced her to shut me out... Both of them being ****** that he chose me over them.. And I wonder why I dislike girls and typical girl behaviour.. bah..
Anyway, I soon found out that he just wanted some love and attention now and then, nothing more, I got over him when this thing with my boss blossomed, heh heh, but this whole thing shoved me the true nature of my friend.. This other girl is gone now, left my friend when she had exploited her for all she was worth, me and my friend are talking again now, but whe have settled for talking, becoming real friends again might take a looooong time, but I basically found out that I don't need to take **** like that from anyone...
To talk about something entirely else, I have a 2 year old daughter, with a man I left when she was 3 months old, we had been together a couple of years before that, nothing was really wrong in our relationship, I just knew that this was not the man I would share the rest of my life with... So I left him.. right after the birth of our daughter.. madness some would say, especially since nothing REALLY was wrong, it just wasn't right..
sooo, if something actually IS wrong, there is no reason not to go after your own happiness... if you know your happiness is not with him, why stay?
I wish i had taken the step sooner, before I got pregnant, I knew a looong time before that the he was not right, but it was comfortable, and nothing was REALLY wrong.. Then I got pregnant.. Bummer.. But don't get me wrong, I love my daughter!!! No regrets there! It is a difficult situation, and most things would be easier without a child, but she is adorable, and her father and I are good friends now and cooperate great.
Ouch, I think I have talked myself away from my point, don't really remember now what my point was, but I THINK it might have been something along the lines of "Do what feels right, no matter what!". Again, good luck! Hope my stories helped in some way

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izodesmozina
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posted January 11, 2007 02:09 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you very much for your stories, Tina! Yes, they did help me. You are a very courageous soul and I admire you for that decision. I imagine it wasn't easy... and I guess it still isn't. I liked your optimistic tone a lot. If your daughter resembles you, I'm sure she's just lovely! The fact that you were able to get passed the bad relationship with her father, plus what your friend did, says a lot about your good spirit!
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posted January 11, 2007 02:20 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know everybody here on this forum knows how depressessed I'am right now I really miss my ex so much!

I feel like he is what my life is missing right now.... I'm yearning to be his and for him to be mine..... I feel so empty inside without him here with me

We don't even call each other... it's been over a year since we last spoke or saw each other... I'm missing him so bad!!!! Lately I have been crying a lot, with thoughts of him and I. All I can do is think about what we could be to each other!!! I'm really hurting inside right now! I miss him!


Katie

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izodesmozina
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posted January 11, 2007 02:38 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know, Katie... I'm sorry if my post made things more emotional for you. I've been crying a lot lately, as well. And it's a very lonely time, not having anybody on my side...

But if you miss him so much, why don't you contact him? A year is a long time and the stuff that broke you up might have changed... You'll only know when you'll try... It seems you are already feeling low... what do you have to lose, except your sorrow? If he rejects you, you will know for sure and will be able to go on with your life, put the past in the past... It is true, I don't know your story, I don;t know the stuff between you guys... I am here if you need a shoulder to cry on
Take care, Katie!

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posted January 11, 2007 03:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fluke     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually, leaving my daughters father is the most difficult thing i've ever done, especially because of her. I also tried to leave him once before, but got back with him after a couple of weeks, Isn't that just typical, heh heh. That was just a few months before i got pregnant if i remember right..
Anyway, I of course became the "sinner" in this whole situation, I suddenly was the crazy ***** who left this sweet, kind man, broke his heart, and stole his daughter. Actually he was ready to make this in to an "angry" situation, because he was still in love with me and was on the verge of making us hostile towards each other, but i stopped him cold before he could even get there and told him that I would not fight with him no matter what because of our daughter, and that i would do whatever it took for us to have a working relationship when it came to her, and advised him to do the same, and it stopped right there.
It took about a year for him to stop looking like a lost puppy everytime we met (wich was often, I frequently visited him with our baby, and he had an open invitation to our house) but now we're ok, no raw feelings flying trough the air whenever we met, but we also worked hard for it, and we were both adamant that we would work this out.

You probably also have a saying along the lines of "Guys come and go, but friends are always there" meaning that you should never put some boy before a friendship, or that you should never let some boy come between you as friends. I personally think that is a stupid saying, as probably my actions also would suggest, heh heh. I'm not saying that friends don't matter and that you should do whatever you please without regards for others, but don't let jealous friends dictate your relationships.. and always talk.. and talk, and talk, and talk, if someone is having a problem with whom you're dating. be absolutely clear about that you're not doing it to be mean, but because you like this guy and think you would be happy with him, not for any other reason, like revenge or whatever people might think..
But of course, it hurts like hell when it is the other way around, but I could never get my self to be angry at a friend because she was together with someone I liked or was in love with, especially not if she had told me she was together with him because she simply wanted to, not for other reasons, like mentioned above.
Ugh, I'm confusing even myself now, I'm going through what i've written and i'm not even sure i understand half of it myself, heh heh.. I'm blaming the early hour, I'm supposed to be asleep now.. If I didn't have the day off I would have been up for 4 hours already, but this is a very welcome day off, so now that I've been up to take my daughter to kindergarden I'm off to bed for the rest of the day.. Nite nite!

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posted January 13, 2007 11:24 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, Tina!

I can only imagine how hard it was for you... but you turned everything around and that proves once more that you are a very special and curageous person!
Thanks so much for your wonderful words... you made me cry these last few days... I've been so emotional lately I'm sorry you had to go through all that turmoil.
I hope sun will soon shine in your love life and that the thing with your boss will blossom completely
Wishing you all the best! Take care and God bless you and your wonderful daughter!

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posted January 13, 2007 04:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fluke     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, I'm starting to "blame" my ability to get through stuff like that on my moon-pluto conjuntion.. I've always thought I was all air and fire, mostly, the conjuntion also take place in airy libra, but since joining this forum I've learned alot about so much, and I'm beginning to se more of the nuances now..
And I'm especially intrigued by the moon-pluto conjuntion, I'm finally seeing where my intense emotions and emotional transformations might come from...
Anyway, the best of luck to you, I wish I could say a lot of stuff to help you, but one always has to find and learn ones own thruths, and it feels so good once you do, and they stick so much better than the truths others try to show you..
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I know, Katie... I'm sorry if my post made things more emotional for you. I've been crying a lot lately, as well. And it's a very lonely time, not having anybody on my side...
But if you miss him so much, why don't you contact him? A year is a long time and the stuff that broke you up might have changed... You'll only know when you'll try... It seems you are already feeling low... what do you have to lose, except your sorrow? If he rejects you, you will know for sure and will be able to go on with your life, put the past in the past... It is true, I don't know your story, I don;t know the stuff between you guys... I am here if you need a shoulder to cry on
Take care, Katie!

Izo


Oh thats ok.... it's good to let out frustrations (through controlled emotion) sometimes....

And I would like to thank you for creating this post... because it help me to realize I'AM NOT ALONE!

So again I would like to thank you! Also...

I REALLY REALLY want to call him... but I'm soooo afraid of getting my feelings hurt or being rejected (Cancer ASC...) I don't want him to hurt my pride (leo moon)

So it's hard for me... I wish he would just call me!

I feel like its all my fault because I kinda pushed him away.... because I thought he had feelings for his ex... so I kinda told him he should be with her.... but I wish I would have just asked him if he had feelings for her still instead of just assume....

I feel like being with him taught me a GREAT deal about life... and I feel like I really matured thanks to knowing him.... I told him this too years ago....

I really wish he would give me a second chance to prove myself to him that I'am not as niave as I once used to be... I truely learned from ALL the mistakes I made with him...


And I hope he learned from the mistakes he made with me!!!....


I feel like him and I still have some unfinished business to attend to in matters of the heart.... and I really want to call but I can't get past my big ego and shyness.....

Also another thing... he has an ego too (his moon is in aries) and he tends to be a bit shy sometimes (sun and mercury in cancer... with mars in virgo)

So I guess he wont call me either even if he is thinking about me...

And another thing Iam kind of old fashioned (asc in cancer... venus in taurus) I rather the man pursue me, then I pursue him..

And that is exactly how this whole thing began between me and him.... he pursued me 1st...

But I don't know I guess I'm just damaged for life!!!

But please know that I'am here for you as well if you ever need a shoulder to cry on... I really know how hard these karmic relationships can be... but it makes it much easier to know that someone is there to help you through all of this...

And don't worry in due time ALL of our wounds will HEAL!!!


Katie

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