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Topic: Natal chart of someone who seems cold and distant
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jupitersgirl
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posted December 25, 2006 04:47 PM
  
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posted December 25, 2006 05:07 PM
The moon and venus and jupiter in the fourth house probably makes him enjoy being at home by himself. uranus in the 12th house is isolating into your own head and it conjuncts the ascendant so he has all this aqua in him. What does he work with?
sun is in opposition to saturn and gives him issues with self worth, maybe the reason he doesnt like to socialise?
Also the saturn square pluto must be heavy for his head....
To be able to connect to a person who appears to be shut down always is like impossible. This guy could be like the most intelligent person with lots of deep emotions, but its probably difficult to open them up when saturn and pluto runs so deep within you. conversation is a good start with this guy Id guess...
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posted December 25, 2006 05:08 PM
this guy looks like he had a very hard childhood. ------------------
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jupitersgirl
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posted December 25, 2006 05:29 PM
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posted December 25, 2006 05:45 PM
dont try to open him up it wont work....he has an aquarius moon/scorpio rising, he likes mystery, and to feel his surroundings out first, it will take him a LONG time before he does open up, hell he never might...(the way a typical female expects) plus he a capricorn sun...(yack dont get me started) you have a chart of a man that wont open up and be all emotional someday, he might never open up the way you want, thats something youre gonna have to accept, hes bound for meaningful deep relationships(venus trine pluto
/venus sextile neptune) just talk to him like a friend, and be casual...thats what id do, and dont expect anything... ------------------
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posted December 25, 2006 05:52 PM
jupitersgirl, I know someone a bit like you describe him as...there is definatly a vulcano underneath there hehe.
The scorpio ascendant does all he can to hide it, but once you get his trust , Im sure he will open up.
It could be he is shy and doesnt know how to act socially, like doesnt know how to talk to others or about himself, but its "only" the saturn holding him back.
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posted December 25, 2006 07:55 PM
His moon, venus and Jupiter are conjunct in Aquarius, and are located in his 4th house. I would think that for you to be able to help him open up, you would need to have planets like Venus, Moon, Mars, or Mercury making trines, sextiles or conjunctions to this stellium. Hopefully not your Saturn, as it would make things worst. Maybe your Pluto, that would definitely open him up. IP: Logged |
jupitersgirl
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posted December 26, 2006 03:22 AM
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posted December 26, 2006 08:18 AM
From just looking briefly at your chart, you have DC, venus and jupiter in cap that touches his cap sun. Your mars in aqua should really spice up his aqua planets in his 4th house, the mars conjunct venus should awaken strong feelings of attraction. he has mercury and the north node in sag and it conjuncts your mercury in sag He would have to feel his life gives meaning when talking to you.
Also your sun is in sag even though it doesnt conjunct it, but many similar energies here. Your pluto on his ascendant.
I think a good reason why you feel so attracted to this guy is probably your DC conjunct venus in cap, and mars in aqua in your 7 th house
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posted December 26, 2006 09:55 AM
Don't think he's playing a game or putting up an act. This is how he is. Uranian people can often make other people feel "Oh, if you would only open up, we could be closer," but that's what the other person wants, not the Uranian. The Uranian wants space and freedom, and if that costs them intimacy and warmth so be, We all have what's important to us, and that's what's important to an Uranian. And if you try to pry and weasel your way into his inner world and start rearranging his priorities, he'll simply push you away for good. He wants your respect more tham your sympathy. He's honest enough to admit he's "damaged goods" but don't mistake his honesty for a cry for help. It's most likely not that at all. He's probably just be up front with you. He's definitely not the type who wants other to fix him or feels the need to cry on someone's shoulder. He has a strong need to figure out his own problems and be emotionally self-reliant. Learn to respect that, and you could be his friend. Scorpio rising plus Pluto aspecting both Sun and moon indicate privacy and personal power are essential to him. It's not that he "likes to be an enigma" so much as he REALLY doesn't want people to pry into his business. He won't tolerate people who lack the integrity and self-possession to give him his pace and respect his privacy. It is likely he'll never completely open up to anyone ever, and that's OK. His Pluto + Cap-Aqua influences tell him that privacy is essential to his own indiviudlity and integrity, and people who pry threaten that. Cap Sun opposing Saturn is very tough, but again, he's not looking for a shoulder to cry on. He wants people to respect him and treat him like he's capable of working out his problems on his own. Emotional self-reliant is what he thinks he should strive, but he often doubts himself, profoundly. He resents sympathy and sentimentality, but he'll feel conflict over this. On one hand he'll push people who want to help him away, but on the other hand, he wishes people would live the door open for him IF by chance he decides he needs and wants help. More likely he'll simply seek out company more than help, but that is his way. And he'll be most tolerant of people who allow him to take things at a pace that is comfortable for him, rather than someone who pushes him to get help. He has a tough chart. He's someone who has a lot to sort out in this life. Much of that he'll want to do on his own, and he needs the liberty and space to do that. It may be quite lonely for him at times, but that's the path he needs to walk. He probably is quite aware of that alreayd, and will feel threatened or fristrated by people who try to afflict an rose-colored version of reality onto what he has already accepted to be true. Liek I said above, he doesn't want others to fix him, but he'll like to have options. He wants ot know that if the time comes for him to seek out help and support from others, there's someone he can turn to. So don't push or pry - just let him have his space and keep the door open, that's all. IP: Logged |
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posted December 26, 2006 11:19 AM
I lived with a cappy sun and cappy moon male for 8 years knew him 12 years, I will say for the first 4 years I thought for sure he had a zero heart or a cold block of ice for one. It was after that 4 years that I finally figured out that actually he was so sensitive that he buried it deep, and put up the walls and protected it. And even learning that about him didnt mean I saw the softer parts of him..I knew it was there but he always had control of his emotions ALWAYS..happy or sad you never saw his face waiver with any type of emotions. But finally seeing and understanding he did have emotions helped me to let go of needing to instigate an emotional response from him. Your guy there has cappy sun and aqua moon ..yeah that to me spells emotions under lock and key and fully under control. Doesn't mean he is cold hearted only probably that he has the tender parts buried deep.IP: Logged |
jupitersgirl
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posted December 26, 2006 03:01 PM
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posted December 27, 2006 04:17 AM
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posted December 27, 2006 07:16 AM
from the general look of his chart (every personal planet in the lower half), he seems to be a very private man; very rpotective about his privacy (tau mars opp uranus (and asc?)). let me tell you something... if you want him bc he seems 'different' (prob that uranus conj to the asc), forget about it! he's probably only interested in 'real' feelings, real connections - if he is. his aqua moon (i have a moon-uranus conj) tells me that he can be very distant and 'rational' about things - until things prove to be worth while... can you prove him that you care? a capricorn doesn't waste time (or feelings) one more thing: if he knew you're discussing his personal life details on the internet with a bunch of strangers - he'd probably never, ever talk to you again. and that uranus-mars opp tells me he's got quite a temper, so... if you really, really want to be his friend (or whatever), you'd better learn to keep private matters private (venus-moon in the 4th and rx cancer saturn) - and you'd better learn it fast! he will open up when he will trust you (rx Can saturn). but how can you trust a person who puts your childhood heartaches on a public forum... IP: Logged |
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posted December 27, 2006 07:39 AM
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posted December 27, 2006 08:09 AM
crist-didnt you pull the same BS with someone else? jupitergirl- I dont think theres anything wrong with posting his chart and asking advice on how to get closer to him, many people do it all the time.... ------------------
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jupitersgirl
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posted December 27, 2006 08:12 AM
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posted December 27, 2006 12:16 PM
Ewww reminds me of my ex's chart who was a Cappy, Aqua Moon, Sag Venus.
Cold belongs with cold.
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jupitersgirl
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posted December 27, 2006 12:31 PM
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posted December 27, 2006 12:39 PM
Maybe he just doesnt want to socialise with you guys.Whenever Ive been accused of being cold, I know its because I am not giving the other person what they want. It could be attention or pandering up to their Jesus complexes. Because I know Im fabulous and everybody wants a piece of me but Im not for sale. So if a person doesnt want to talk to you and you have a problem with it, its your problem not theirs. Why does he automatically have to have issues? IP: Logged |
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posted December 27, 2006 12:50 PM
Jupiter's girl you described my ex perfectly.People like that definitely have issues. That's why I say cold belongs with cold.
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posted December 27, 2006 12:51 PM
He was a loner also. I feel sorry for people like that.------------------
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jupitersgirl
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posted December 27, 2006 12:54 PM
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posted December 27, 2006 12:55 PM
Maybe he just doesnt want to socialise with you guys.Whenever Ive been accused of being cold, I know its because I am not giving the other person what they want. It could be attention or pandering up to their Jesus complexes. Because I know I'm fabulous and everybody wants a piece of me but I'm not for sale. So if a person doesn't want to talk to you and you have a problem with it, its your problem not their's. Why does he automatically have to have issues? This is a really sensitive topic for me because I hurt at the way people are so quick to box others. Why dont you realise the problem that you are quick to judge as opposed to transferring the problem onto someone else? If he hasn't told you he has a problem flat out why bestow him one? My younger brother went through years of unneccessary drama trying to enforce the fact that he is unique and truly enjoys spending time by himself. The same goes for me...except I am more vocal and older. I am not telling you off but just throwing out points for you to ponder on...if you want to. Please...I urge everyone to stop judging and seeing problems where there are none. That in itself causes untold problems like you wouldn't believe.
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posted December 27, 2006 01:00 PM
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