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Topic: Pluto Moon Connection Jealously
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Kay Libra
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posted January 02, 2007 09:23 AM
 
I have Moon trine Pluto. Growing up my mom always told me be careful of women. She said they could be jealous, envious and cruel. I just thought okay mom is crazy and she has problems with women. But I started noticing that what she said was true. During highschool girls would start rumors about me, cause alot of guys liked me. Even the guys I dated would say girls are jealous of you. I've had real friends say you know what alot of girls are jealous of you. I still get looks from women. I was never a loose chick, but because alot of guys liked me cute face, nice shape...they thought oh she must be floosy or something. I raised to walk with my head held high. Seriously, I hated when my mom said girls/women can be very jealous. Like I didn't want that to rub off on me in case she just had a problem you know. But I slowly but surely saw it for myself. And it's sad! We should be sticking together! When I see a female and she's pretty I can say you're pretty and not feel threatened at all. I look like looking at beauty...Sun and Venus in Libra. I wouldn't say oh she's ugly and start spreading rumors about the girl. I've found jealousy in my own family, including my mom. Some relatives were spreading lies about me behind my back and that really hurt alot!!! I would never do that to my friends or family. I think that's just down right disgusting.
The only time I get really jealous and when I find out the man I'm seeing is dating another person than I'm totally insecure. Once I start feeling like that it's time for me to leave the situation...which usually takes me awhile, but I'm getting better at not holding on so long (mars in cancer). IP: Logged |
neptune5
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posted January 02, 2007 12:50 PM
wow kaylibra i can really relate to what your saying, i'm moon trine pluto too, what signs are yours in?------------------
Virgo Rising 8'57, Sagittarius Sun/4thH 3'26, Pisces Moon/6thH 8'22 "Our passions are not too strong, they are too weak. We are far too easily pleased." - C.S. Lewis "Beauty is eternity gazing at itself in a mirror." - Kahlil Gibran IP: Logged |
teaologist
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posted January 02, 2007 01:11 PM
Wow, didn't know that Moon sq Pluto would 'cause' jealousy from other women? Would the effects be 'heightened' if my Pluto is also in my 4th house too?Anyway, wouldn't outright call it jealousy. My Moon makes a ton of aspects and they all offset each other (conj ASC, trine Jupiter, sq Mars, sq Saturn, etc.). I'd like to think I get along decently with males and females alike. Getting along with ppl on a larger scale though---diff story, hehe... but def no gender bias... I think the few women who get put off by me are the ones who misunderstand reticence for snobbery... Seems like women are expected to be chipper or hostess-like? Nothing wrong with being so. But if we're not as such by nature, then are we 'snobbish' or 'ill-mannered'? Y'know what I realized happens during awkward silences? Lots of projection... Maybe that's just me being paranoid though. I only mentioned other women cos it seems like most men I've met accept reticence as a mere character trait... but that's just my experience. IP: Logged |
Kay Libra
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posted January 02, 2007 01:47 PM
Nep I have Moon in Aqu trine Pluto in Lib.IP: Logged |
neptune5
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posted January 02, 2007 01:48 PM
oh okay cool, lunar pisces trine pluto scorpio here.------------------
Virgo Rising 8'57, Sagittarius Sun/4thH 3'26, Pisces Moon/6thH 8'22 "Our passions are not too strong, they are too weak. We are far too easily pleased." - C.S. Lewis "Beauty is eternity gazing at itself in a mirror." - Kahlil Gibran IP: Logged |
GrlyGirl20
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posted January 02, 2007 07:03 PM
I just have been feeling that I am tired of being viewed as somewhat slutty...or a threat to girls boyfriends. I don't know why people view me as intense...I happen to think my mercury square pluto, my sun and ascendant trine pluto, my pluto in the 5th house, and my jupiter in the 8th don't help the fact that I am viewed as over sexual. But is there a way you guys came to accept this energy you have? IP: Logged |
Gemini Nymph
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posted January 02, 2007 10:04 PM
Duality, I have a Sun-Ceres-Merc stellium as the apex of a t-square with my Pluto and moon. I guess we're just weirdly similar. I have a hard time showing weakness and asking for help. Jealousy - on the rare times I do feel it I try to hide too.  Mars in Aqua is peregrine, and so Mars is never that at ease in Aqua. People with Aqua Mars can be very Aquarian: humanitarin, progressive, egalitarian, gregarious, inventive, independant, creative, original. But they can also be a lot like someone with Aries Mars: very energetic, outspoken, opinionated, sexually intense, bossy, tempermental, combative, even self-centered. Because it's peregrine, this makes those energies more erratic and unstable. Also, since Aqua's not good when it comes to strong emotions (like the kind Mars produces), there's a tendency for an Aqua-Martian to not handle their tempers and egos in very healthy or constructive ways. There's also Aqua's stubborness that's brought to Mars too - a stubbornness that shadows even Aries'. And Aqua Mars is the WORST of all Aqua placements when it comes to not conforming and insisting things be done THEIR way. SO all in all, it makes me a difficult person. But I still love my Aqua Mars. IP: Logged |
GrlyGirl20
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posted January 04, 2007 01:21 AM
Do you guys have any issues (underlying) with your mother. Is she controlling or maybe wanting you to remain a child or in a submissive position? IP: Logged |
Leopricorn
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posted January 04, 2007 01:36 AM
I have Moon sextile Pluto - does that count? My relationship with my mother didn't involve power struggles.IP: Logged |
SimplyLuna
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posted September 05, 2017 04:58 PM
Old topic but I find it to be a good one.I have Libra moon conjunct Pluto Scorpio but it’s retrograded. Libra is on its last degree. I am not sure if it makes the same impact but I never experience jealousy among other women before until I grew older. Like after 21, I just went through many things in my life and learn to be tougher emotionally and become a better version of myself. I used to pity how I look, I went and start putting make up and do my hair. I used to pity how I lack charm and don't know how to hold a conversation so I went out there and start talking to many people despite how socially awkward I can be. There were much more things I feel I changed myself. I was a people pleaser as well. Reason I did all this… I was a loner at some point or felt like one. Overtime I became more open and confidence with myself. My career was going great. My libra moon must have yearned to be sociable, feeling beautiful, and to be liked.
I do notice later in life women seems intimated by me. I wasn't sure if it was all in my head. My friend even openly admitted she was jealous of me after being friends for over 10 years. She had hurt me emotionally in the past up until I made the hardest decision to cut her out of my life. We are no longer friends, because she would threaten me out of the blue via text . I was done playing the therapy for her as well. I wonder if this is the Pluto in play to let go (death) of our toxic friendship and not try to grab onto any female as friends and just accept it(rebirth). I am more relax than I was before. I’ve just decided I can’t hang on to drama anymore. It was too much to handle. There was another friend who thought I would take her boyfriend away from her but it is far from my intention. From this, I feel the lesson I’ve learn is I cannot try to become very close w female friends, because it would always turn to some hidden issues like jealousy or insecurity. I don’t want that for anyone nor myself. Even though deep down I do want close female friends. I also do not want to change who I am and what got me here and build that confidence to waste. I am in no way flirting or desire to hurt them. I think it takes another strong woman to understand and befriend someone with moon-pluto. I have not met one but hopefully this transformation would lead me to a great female friendship.
Btw, I asked a male friend how people perceive me as if they don’t know me. He said I look like a Diva from a glance. No idea but just a thought. It is a total opposite when I speak. LOL
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Madpoe
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posted October 03, 2017 12:56 PM
a gemini galpal told me many years ago over some cheap wine: "Women are jealous of you and men are intimidated by you". it stunned me and I didn't get it but as far as she'd explain was men are intimidated becuase I was "smart and beautiful" and dubbed "one of the guys" with them and women were jealous. idk think so, I think I'm dumb, so I laughed and blamed the wine. I have Moon in Libra (8th house) conjunct Pluto in Libra (8th house). I guess a ex-boss (Scorpio) told me she never knew mood she was going to catch me in. Funny how people relieve their cards to me yet I remain an enigma. IP: Logged |
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posted October 07, 2017 07:51 PM
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Originally posted by Madpoe:
a gemini galpal told me many years ago over some cheap wine: "Women are jealous of you and men are intimidated by you". it stunned me and I didn't get it but as far as she'd explain was men are intimidated becuase I was "smart and beautiful" and dubbed "one of the guys" with them and women were jealous. idk think so, I think I'm dumb, so I laughed and blamed the wine. I have Moon in Libra (8th house) conjunct Pluto in Libra (8th house). I guess a ex-boss (Scorpio) told me she never knew mood she was going to catch me in. Funny how people relieve their cards to me yet I remain an enigma.
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posted October 29, 2017 11:05 PM
It is interesting as one female old friend has Moon square Pluto. I actually don't know how to describe our connection/relationship is as if we are really a friend or just a long time acquaintance as intuitively I distance myself from her since a long time ago.I really don't know why. I don't feel jealous of her (instead I have a feeling she is to me, but idk). I don't feel intimidated by her. But what I feel with her existence is, she can have no privacy boundaries digging other people (but secretive with hers). She gets easily intrigued with other people's business especially trying to find the darkest one or the dirty laundry or making a too intense approach to know your privacy. She can be the sweet person though, but that digger attitude make me uncomfortable as I think she has no privacy boundaries with people. I avoid her as I feel we are the opposite and I've seen her "friends" have similar personality as her.
My older sister has moon in Libra conjunct Libra pluto, and she can be like that too and sometimes "overreacting" thinking "everyone" is jealous of her, to get her down, etc, while you can see people around her are not that many. She actually attracts people who are as intense as her in a possible different form of intensity and too focus with people who she overreacts have deep personal problem with her. But, oh yes, she can be a hard jealous person too, in secret, sometimes she slips it out when in overwhelming emotions. Now she only trusts family.
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posted April 16, 2018 04:48 AM
I think of this aspect as the aspect of being sensitized to violence or aggression ; either overt or covert.
Pluto is also very militant in its nature. So can be very suspicious and defensive in associations.
A colleague of mine has the Moon/Pluto opp and she is always reading between lines. And she often responds aggressively to any type of manipulation:whether covert or overt. Mars-Moon is similar. But they don't hold back their fury or calculate a long-term response. They often respond immediately or impulsively. The colleague suspected that another colleague was trying to undermine her efforts. This alleged colleague was a favourite with management so her suspicions were often dismissed. After some time it became clear to most of us that the team favourite(accused colleague) was not as "clueless" as she seemed. Only playing dumb do that she can over "perform" and exceed expectations. My colleague saw this before anyone did and cried "foul" but was not believed. So yes, people can project I'll feelings on the Moon-Pluto individual. Seeing them as the "bad" seed. But i see this as the case with both men and women with this aspect. IP: Logged |
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
I think of this aspect as the aspect of being sensitized to violence or aggression ; either overt or covert.
Pluto is also very militant in its nature. So can be very suspicious and defensive in associations.
A colleague of mine has the Moon/Pluto opp and she is always reading between lines. And she often responds aggressively to any type of manipulation:whether covert or overt. Mars-Moon is similar. But they don't hold back their fury or calculate a long-term response. They often respond immediately or impulsively. The colleague suspected that another colleague was trying to undermine her efforts. This alleged colleague was a favourite with management so her suspicions were often dismissed. After some time it became clear to most of us that the team favourite(accused colleague) was not as "clueless" as she seemed. Only playing dumb do that she can over "perform" and exceed expectations. My colleague saw this before anyone did and cried "foul" but was not believed. So yes, people can project I'll feelings on the Moon-Pluto individual. Seeing them as the "bad" seed. But i see this as the case with both men and women with this aspect.
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posted July 03, 2018 10:17 AM
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Originally posted by astrostudent:
In my case, I've noticed that guys are not very comfortable when I speak to their gfs..
I'm a guy too.
Most of the guys jelous of me except very few.
It's not even related to gf. I don't know the real reason at all. I have Moon Trine Pluto and Venus Trine Pluto. Mars Conjunct Pluto.
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posted July 04, 2018 01:48 PM
Pluto in the First. I've noticed the same.IP: Logged |
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