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D for Defiant
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posted January 07, 2007 05:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for D for Defiant     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know how much you know about my past, and until recently, how things had been between me, Mother and Father for nearly 3 decades of my life. Tim, I think you probably still recall some details I had explained to you.


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posted January 07, 2007 11:40 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
defiant,

Your mother has a least aspected (strong energy) Sun (self-expression), indicating she does not "connect in" to her self-expression and so may OVERexpress herself. This could result in your mother always wanting to be the center of attention.

Your mother also has Aries (being, also action) modifying Venus (relationships), indicating she may like to "conquer" others in her relationships...and lose interest after she has conquered the other person.

There are easy connections between your personal planets (Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, and Mars) indicating that there could be some personal closeness between you. However there are challenges between you with Uranus (friends, also rebellion) and Mars (being, also anger), indicating there could be sudden angry reactions between you.

Her Pluto (transformation, also power) opposes (energy is over-excited by) your Sun (self-expression), so you may have felt that she over-powered her self-expression. However, your Pluto opposes her Moon (home, also emotions), Mercury (thinking/daily work) and Venus (relationships), indicating she may have felt oppressed by you.

Your dad has a least aspected Mercury (daily work, also analysis) focused in the 6th house (daily work), so he may have had trouble "connecting in" with routine and analysis...which may have made him OVERanalyze things.

There are very few personal connections between you and your dad and LOTS of stress, including Uranus-Mars challenges. The stress is focused on balancing out self-expression with other people's self-expression in some way.

Relating,

Tim

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posted January 08, 2007 01:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for D for Defiant     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, Tim

I recall that, before Divine Goddess was banned from LL, she posted in the thread "Eighth house and the death prediction", warning us not to take death predictions lightly ever, and to be prudent when studying death predictions in a natal chart- I understand that this takes immense responsibility, even if one is making such predictions for a total stranger to most, but the outcome would nevertheless potently influence those unconcerned in a very negative way. The antient astrologers did warn us that when to die and how to die can largely depend on the individual's will, decision...so this should be taken with a good sense of responsibility.

I'm too curious about how they will end up on the last day of their existence.

She'll get what she asked for.

Again, I would deeply appreciate your insight.

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posted January 08, 2007 02:46 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Defiant,

I corrected an error in my original posting:
HER Pluto opposes YOUR Sun, so SHE oppressed YOUR self-expression. The rest of the post was correct.

I have not answered any questions about the Cancer woman and her boyfriend because that has nothing to do with you. I only do synastries of people and others they directly relate to. I make an exception in the case of family connections (synastries of mom and dad, etc.), but otherwise believe that we only need to do synastries for those people we interact with.

Trying to do a synastry of someone we know nothing about only leads to us further misunderstanding the person. Only the person whose chart it is understands how their energies work in a relationship. So I do synastries for those people, in the hopes it will help them better use their energies and more lovingly interact with the other person.

Relating on a limited basis,

Tim

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posted January 09, 2007 12:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Taurus80     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hey D..

i just wanted to say i hope you are okay and safe.. i will be sending you good thoughts.. lots of hugs..

D~

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posted January 09, 2007 08:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for D for Defiant     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Taurus80,

Thanks for your well wishes I'm moving on from square one, and from now on, I will refrain from disclosing my up-to-the-minute situation, because more discretion and more confidentiality means more safety and more security for me, especially now. Anyway, you guys will surely know that I'm fine, as long as I'm still here at LL.

I knew she would carry out any insane venture by any means necessary- necessary to herself, though. I said I didn't want to see either of my parents again, that it would just disrupt my peace of mind.

I hope that woman just ruin herself and her husband, and stay away from me. I'm going to have to watch my back for any undesirable expose by my "mother" the monster. Or my father.

Tim

Thanks for correcting and letting me know. I had been a bit confused about the previous and later corrected part of the info. Also, thanks for telling me more about the basics of synastry reading. I hadn't been aware of the points to bear in mind, but from now on I will keep those in mind.

Will she succeed in her destructive and self-destructive actions?

Never. She must be annihilated. She will be.

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posted January 09, 2007 10:51 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Defiant,

I think the "power" issues come from the Pluto contacts I mentioned in your chart. Although your mom can "overpower" your self-expression, you have more "overpowering" abilities than her which your mom can NOT control. I think this inability to control you scares her, since she associates with an inability to express herself. And so the "going overboard" in trying to be the center of attention in your life.

Powerfully,

Tim

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posted January 10, 2007 05:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for D for Defiant     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Tim

Then she had been trying to be the center of the attention in MY life...unforgivalble.


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posted January 11, 2007 03:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for D for Defiant     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thankfully, I haven't got anything theatrical or drastic for you today- which means it's good news. I've found a place to stay, and right now I'll be looking for a job. I need an income to feed myself physically and intellectually/spiritually.

I've got to make money, and enough of it ASAP- I need to feed my soul.

Looking forward to a brighter future now

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posted January 11, 2007 11:00 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Defiant,

Your mother wants to be the center of attention (as we have discussed). If she thinks disrupting your life will get her that attention, she will continue to do it. All you can do is ignore her and NOT REACT to her attempts at attention. Then (hopefully) she will give up on trying to get attention in that way. Who knows, it might even improve your relationship!

Hopefully,

Tim

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posted January 11, 2007 12:02 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
D.f.D.

re this subject ..
* http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/012080.html *

t.Sat has mainly been working over your natal Mercury placement/position
.. and to natal Uranus as well .. .. t.Sat is squaring both ..

i.e. would seem to be going on since last year .. .. will move off mid '07 aprox ..

thing is .. Saturns ways at the moment are making it a rather drawn out transit ..
and btw: the cancerian woman mentioned in another post .. she has t.Saturn squaring her natal Venus ..
..
* http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/009083.html *

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posted January 12, 2007 12:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for D for Defiant     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Tim, and Happy Dragon,

I'll have a look at the links a bit later.


WHY do they just do what they've been doing?

Tim, I seriously doubt if my mother would stop so easily- which is why I think it's a good decision NOT to return to their apartment for the rest of my belongings. I want to survive and live a good life, and I don't have the urge to mess with them, while hoping they would not mess with me, either. But obviously they don't want peace.

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posted January 12, 2007 04:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for D for Defiant     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Happy Dragon,

I just finished reading the links. Sorry, the second one, more extensively about Saturn and its various aspects was lengthy and I don't even have the money to print it out now.

I've been too preoccupied with my own issues.


One day, when I can finally be my own boss, I will not spare these two ignorant, perverse monsters.

My mother has done something to me, which I consider child sexual abuse.

She simply DID it. I didn't say anything, I was completely shocked. I still feel intensely livid and ashamed as I'm writing this. But I must endure everything because "Your revenge...is to live".

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posted January 12, 2007 04:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for D for Defiant     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I want a life, and they want to damage and terminate it. One day they will pay their due- soon.

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posted January 12, 2007 06:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for D for Defiant     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't want a life that has no other purposes but vengeance. I would prefer to express myself, either my joy or my pain, through sublimation, rather than revenge and hatred.

But unkindness shall be met with unkindness.

I am not going to let others push me around forever.

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