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LILYGIRL
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posted January 09, 2007 05:03 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
William I would appreciate your words on this. What would be the following meaning:

a Composite chart where the Mars/Venus midpoint equals the South Node thus opposes the NN?

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Mama Mia
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posted January 09, 2007 05:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mama Mia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey LG: Is that your way of saying no one else should answer but william???? LOL!! girl that is a question for a true astrologist anyway..Casue I read that and got dizzy and confused all at once..

How are you hon??

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LILYGIRL
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posted January 09, 2007 05:16 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
HAHHAH MMia. Girl you busting my chops or what? LOL. I am hanging in there. Fighting the good fight as Jupiter enters my 1st house. You know that story. It wants me to be very expansive....but Saturn is Squaring My Venus til July so I am not feeling that adorable, brilliant or creative.. quite yet....

What about you?.. how's that adorable Pisces little boy? I smile every time you say you';ve got his number!!!

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posted January 09, 2007 05:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mama Mia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LOL!!! Your a shining star and you will pull through it all I have faith in ya..

Girl my Fish baby is good. I love him so much even when he makes me so angry. Sometimes I just stare in amazement at him and his natural spiritaul ways..

How is Mr.Pisces Doc doing, been chatting with him lately..we might as well chat for a minute since you already scared anyone else away from posting other then William..LOL!!!

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william
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posted January 09, 2007 05:53 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi lily,
this position is very similar to what one would experience with a venus/mars midpoint conjunct a sun/uranus conjunction.it can give a intense emotional/sexual/spiritual experience. the problem with the node is that depending on the personality structures involved,the node can turn from love to hate.so that what one person experience with these aspects is not what another person would experience with these aspects.i think this is why the node is little used,the same aspect can produce contradictory effects depending on the person and karma involved.
william [excellent question]

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LILYGIRL
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posted January 10, 2007 10:24 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thanks william ...that sounds pretty accurate! and I am certain having the chiron mars midpoint at SN also just accentuates matters... throw in sun/asc=moon anmd neptune/pluto=asc and you've got yourself a psychological party.

MM-- We're still hanging in there in our weird never neverland. But you know the drill and I won't pretend to have answers for him...I barely have answers for me. When he is kind and open and over the top funny, it's much like living in a snowglobe. But then he turns around and pulls back and regrets it I think... And what am I to say? Not much. I feel that I have enough fortitude to keep us both from going over the lines but I think he looks at me and going over the lines just screams in his head. I can't curb unwarranted guilt. You know what I mean? Don't feel guilty for something you did not do and have not done nor have not been invited to do...The difference between us is I can live in my head and whirl this amazing lovely protected life or moment with him without torturing myself about it. Becuase it's my feelings..not my actions,..and those are mine to own..no one elses... I think he feels strong and giddy and then feels bad about it...

mere speculation though!!

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william
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posted January 10, 2007 01:21 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oh a mars/chiron midpoint also.that really changes the potential manifestation.that actually brings a critical possesive and "kinky" aspect to the relationship.the chiron can lead to very destructive expressions
william

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LILYGIRL
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posted January 10, 2007 03:08 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
YIKES !!! William back that caboose up. Whoah man, whoah. LOL.... That sounds heady but ominous....

So far its being a cross between torture (learning about myself I think) and very emotionally healing and lovely.

We are friends and doc/patient (regular doc not professor ph.d or psychologist doc). Usually it has a warm floaty comfortable feeling (his sun Pisces/asce Cancer/Moon Libra), but there is an odd erotic undertone that has a sort of bizarre power feel to it. I am not sure how to quite describe it but it's that feeling that you want your arms pressed against the wall and kissed hard but that you could in turn tie him to the bed and leave him their begging for food and other stuff for two days. Maurice Fernandez once commented that my mars/saturn midpoint at D's Venus made him wonder if I was this guy's dominatrix. I thought it was joke...But seriously ...... The natal does have my sun on his SN and my Chiron conjunct his "stellium" roundup of Venus/Eros/Chrion in his 8th house Aqua. But our venuses also square each other and my pluto opposes his venus.

But it's all rather helpless though compelling.

The composite has a star of David of double grand trines overlay (one being neptune moon and mars in water) but with Moon (can) opposing Saturn (cap) and pisces Mars opposing virgo Pluto (that sounds kinky weird there now that I look at it) and Aries Venus sitting right on the descendant and vertex. The Composite rising is Libra, the Moon Cancer but the 7th house 3 planet line up of venus mercury and sun in ARIES!)

More information than you certainly needed but yes, there is occasionally a sort of hot charge underneath.

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william
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posted January 10, 2007 04:02 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi lily,
chiron often bring a selfish and dominating influence to the sexual arena.when one has a nurturing aspect[mars/venus mp]with a non-nurturing/selfish aspect[mars/chiron] then a lot of fringe emotionals can arise,i.e. love/hate,pleasure/pain.the star of david is very favorable as it indciates that there is strong harmonious quality and any fetishes will not go overboard into destructive extremes.
william

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LILYGIRL
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posted January 10, 2007 04:34 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thanks william..that's good to know.

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bo
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posted January 11, 2007 10:27 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
William

What changes/remains if the composite mars/venus midpoint conjuncts north node (opposes south node)?
If the midpoint conjuncts radix jupiter, what could that mean?

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