posted January 12, 2007 10:04 PM              

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Hello, all! I am wondering if anyone would be willing to throw out some insights on my son's chart. I had it drawn up when he was born, but cannot find it anywhere - which is making me nuts. Anyhow, I got this much from the Astrolabe website:

SUN: 01 degrees Virgo
RISING: 07 degrees Scorpio
MOON: 26 degrees Gemini
MERCURY: 04 degrees Virgo
VENUS: 22 degrees Virgo
MARS: 15 degrees Leo
JUPITER: 09 degrees Gemini
SATURN: 00 degrees Gemini
URANUS: 18 degrees Aquarius
NEPTUNE: 04 degrees Aquarius
PLUTO: 10 degrees Sagittarius
N. NODE: 24 degrees Cancer

He was born 11:49 am in Chicago on 8/24/2000. This child has always exacted every bit of my energy! As he gets older, I am becoming more concerned because he still has such a hard time regulating his emotions. We are already in counseling to try to help him, but I want to approach his issues from a spiritual/karmic perspective as well. I could go into more detail about his behavior, but I guess I just want to see if anyone has any new perspectives for me. I am heartsick over this child. He is so unhappy with himself, and as I have tried to shower him with love since his conception, it pains me to see him so sad, frustrated, and angry. Any bit of insight would be so appreciated. Thank You.

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posted January 12, 2007 11:06 PM            

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With children, it's best to lighten up a bit. They pick up every bit of obsessive worry we have and it affects them.

He has Mars in Leo. Mars in leo is a fiery Mars (I know, my kid also has Mars in Leo). Mars in Leo is very proud, and does not take directions or orders very well. Sigh...

That his Mars squares Uranus adds an unsettling quality to his energy. Rash decisions, carelessness. Sign him up in a good martial arts school. That will help him deal with this energy in a more constructive and creative fashion.

I notice he also has moon square Venus. So, yes, emotional life tends to be fraught with conflict. For the past 2 years, transiting Pluto has been squaring his moon and his Venus, so emotional power struggles were happening (with you?), and Pluto will continue to square his moon on and off in 2007. After that, things should get better for him.

Because of his moon in Gemini, he likes to keep things light. Don't force deep emotions on him. If you want to reach him, be more playful, don't be clingy or needy.

His sun in Virgo squares his Saturn in Gemini. People with Saturn square sun have a harder time being responsible and mature, and they do not like authority. However, Virgo being a naturally responsible sign, this is an aspect that with time will resolve itself. Especially since Gemini is not a very strong position for Saturn...

His Saturn squares his Mercury. Watch out for a tendency to stutter or a fear of expression. As his parent, try not to hinder too much the way he talks or expresses himself. Make sure he has loving and understanding teachers.

Your kid will be okay. Lighten up.

I don't know where your placements are, as they also affect how you relate to him.

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posted January 13, 2007 12:55 AM              

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Hi, somommy.
Guessing from your son's outer planets, I would say he's about 6, is that right? I have to ask you, what kind of home life does he have? This looks to me like a child who needs order, and routine - but also needs constant stimulation - and he expects people to make sense. Their actions should match their words, and they should do what they say they're going to do, practice what they preach, and keep a level head. He may express himself emotionally, but he's not really that emotional - it's just the way he's been molded (scorpio asc) - It's like his role, or mask. He's actually quite mental, and analytical. He is, however quite demanding of himself, and he may get this from his father ( sun square saturn), who may be very difficult to please - or has made him feel rejected in some way, unworthy - needs to do so much to measure up.

Mom is volitile, but not malicious. Just scattered, and quite clever, witty and alert. Also, a worrier (duh)...

His emotional meltdowns are not really intristic in his chart, aside from his Scorpio ascendant, which is just his interface with the world. His inner world is actually quite earthy and mental. Are you sure you don't inadvertantly encourage the emotional meltdowns, by accomodating them too much, or over-reacting to them?

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posted January 13, 2007 02:09 AM              

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PS: Mars in Leo = Drama.

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posted January 13, 2007 07:58 AM              

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Belage - thank you very much for your insights. All of the personality traits you described are indeed part of my son's character. I guess one other thing we deal with with him is a lot of seemingly irrational behaviour, which I believe is connected to his perfectionism and extreme sensitivity to his environment. He needs tons of stimulation, yet cannot seem to take a break when he is tired so then has meltdowns out of sheer exhaustion. This happens a lot when he comes home from school. He could have trouble taking his shoe off, then suddenly he's falling apart. He also has extreme perfectionism, which you simply cannot blame on me and his Dad as we have never pushed him to achieve or anything like that - we've never even had the urge to because he is so hard on himself! Even at 3 he started throwing fits when he could not put a puzzle or building kit together... now he is a genius with Legos and K'nex and such. Your insights have reassured me that with love and guidance, he will be able to master all of this crackling mental energy that he has, which sometimes now seems to overpower him and fry him out.

I appreciate your advice to lighten up; however, his problems are real (whatever the cause), and as his mother, I feel obligated to try to help him. I know our souls have come together for a reason. I know we are here to teach each other. Worrier? Yeah, I'm the queen of that with my Virgo Moon! But I'm not loony either, nor am I making up ploblems. Just thought I'd see if anyone had anything of value to say. Thank you so much for taking the time to respond.

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posted January 13, 2007 08:17 AM              

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lioneye - sigh. My husband and I are both very present and loving. I long ago sensed my son's need for structure and consistency. Being a double Taurus myself, that suits me as well, so I have always created a very stable and structured environment for him, including daily outings to museums, parks, etc. for him to feed his active little mind. My husband works nights, so he makes a point of spending time with our son in the mornings; fixing breakfast for him and taking him to school. No we are not perfect parents, but we're better than average for sure. That's why I'm trying to find a deeper understanding. I think, as I told Belage, that a lot of the volitility has to do with his mental restlessness and going into a kind of mental overload sometimes. Also, the hardest times for him are indeed the unstructured times, but the rest of the family needs time to just chill, do chores, etc.! I want to find a way to teach him how to harnass and direct his energy himself, rather than always needing an adult to do it for him.

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posted January 13, 2007 08:20 AM              

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Belage...ugh, that would be "problems", not "ploblems".... although I kind of like ploblems, it's kind of Elmer Fudd.

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posted January 13, 2007 10:17 AM              

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Belage - I think your observation about Pluto squaring his Venus & Moon is very important. It was about two years ago that we started having power struggles. That is also when is younger sister was born - six days prior to his 4th birthday. He and I are very attached to one another, and I'm sure he felt threatened by her presence, although he is a very loving big brother and has never really directed any negativity toward her (beyond usual sibling rivalry stuff.)

My husband is a Scorpio as well, so maybe this relates to the Pluto apect you discussed, in terms of their relationship? Could you tell me when exactly will Pluto be moving on from this aspect for him? I just think it would be interesting to see if things ease up after that!

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posted January 13, 2007 12:54 PM            

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Somommy, your son has natal moon at 26 degrees of Gemini. According to my ephemeris, right now, transiting Pluto is at 27 degrees of Sagg, moving slowly and gradually forward until it reaches 29 degrees of Sagg where it stays for a while. Then on March 31, it starts going retrograde and from August 10 to October, it will be opposing his moon again at 26 degrees of Sagg, going retrograde and then direct on this degree.

Once it goes direct from that point, I don't think it will return to this particular degree (26 degree). I am not 100% certain though, as I don't have an ephemeris for the year 2008.

Your son feels the pressure of Pluto on his Moon when it makes an exact opposition (26 degree), which happened throughout December 2006, but the pressure eases off a bit when the angle is not so exact (25, 27, 28, 29). The further away Pluto is from 26 degree of Sagg, the less your son should feel its opposition to his moon.

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posted January 13, 2007 07:15 PM              

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That makes so much sense because he was really struggling in December.

I used to know a bunch of astrologers, but we relocated 5 years ago and I don't have any in my current social sphere, and can't afford to hire anyone right now. Astrology has been a useful tool for me in the past, but I have a hard time interpreting charts without guidance. I get very overwhelmed by all the information, and have trouble coming up with a cohesive assessment. SO...I appreciate your input, Belage!

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