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sthenri
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posted January 15, 2007 08:32 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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hippichick
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posted January 15, 2007 08:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
wow........

Scorp asc here......

I do not "hate" drugs so much as what they do to people, or more correctly what people let them do to them~~~

A Pisces sun I am and "appreciate" be-ing altered, however........all things in good time...

Ironicially watched "Requium for a Dream," for the first time yesterday and it actually hurt me to watch, really....hurt to see, feel those SO connected, SO dependent on drugs~~~What awesome cinematography, direction to make one feel...

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posted January 15, 2007 08:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a strong pluto in the 10th and an 8th house moon and I don't hate all drugs...meaning mind altering ones. There's hard core ones that I won't touch (ie. heroine, crack, cocaine,PCP,etc.) but as for marijuana.... I know someone's gonna get on me for this too. Oh well...just being honest.


Probably because I have a strong neptune influence as well. I have a 12th house stellium with a retro Neptune that trines my moon and opposes my mercury.

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posted January 15, 2007 09:00 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I hate all kinds of addictions....even caffeine addiction. alcohol, caffeine in moderation is ok. but smoking, drugs is a big no-no for me.

oh and i hv sun sq pluto. pluto conj IC. btw the caffeine and alcohol rule is for myself only. i knw normal ppl dont think like tht probably the strong saturn influence? scared of losing control?

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posted January 15, 2007 09:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lovegoblin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
pluto in first conjunct ascendant.
finally quit smoking-thanks to pluto.
i don't like drugs-but because of neptune
influences i like wine.

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posted January 15, 2007 09:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for libraschoice7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Love to drink, and adore coffee(Starbucks, yummy). As far as drugs go, I don't care for the hard stuff, like Dulce mentioned. My Pluto is pretty strong, but also learned I've got alot of Neptune influence in my chart(which surprised me when I found out)makes me more prone than most, avoid at all cost it what is advised.

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Gemini Nymph
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posted January 15, 2007 09:49 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
1H Pluto squaring Sun.

I don't hate drugs. I've had a past problem with them, but that's definitely behind me. But I don't hate them. I simply don't have much use for them. I don't really see a connection between hating drugs and Pluto, though. What are you getting at?

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posted January 15, 2007 10:18 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Gemini Nymph
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posted January 15, 2007 10:22 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh OK. I get it now. Yeah, I tend to do better without drugs or less drugs too. I've had surgeries since getting "clean" and didn't bother to use pain killers afterwards.

I take a prescription beta blocker as needed for heart paps and blood pressure, but beyond that I rely on herbs/vitamins, diet, exercise and rest to heal physically.

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InLoveWithLife
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posted January 15, 2007 10:34 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ohhh, now i get it too!!

well, i can't stay off those kind of drugs...i tried...and failed. i suffer from rheumatoid arthritis. i live on prescription drugs. altho i still believe tht may be i shud try alternate healing, but i cant take tht risk of stopping the drugs until i actually see an improvement. i wish i cud, tho

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posted January 15, 2007 11:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, now I get it. Guess I put TMI up there.

I take prescriptions for something that I have to....I don't really have a problem with it. Its chronic so I have to.

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posted January 15, 2007 11:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Maire31     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've got Pluto conjunct Virgo Ascendant (opp Pisces Chiron).

I rarely go to the doctor. A few weeks back, I got some sort of throat infection, nurse friend took a peek and said it looked like strept throat. I just loaded up on r&r and fluids and voila! Within a few days, it was gone and I was fine. I let my body heal itself whenever reasonably possible. I'm not a great patient, I don't take meds as directed, so I figure, why bother?

Recreational drugs? Well, I've got Nep/Scorp/3rd apecting Sun, Moon, Merc, Saturn, Chiron, Pluto, Asc. Don't know how it plays into things...but I can tell you I was a BIG dabbler in my youth. Nothing ever got a "hold of me" though, well, except ciggies (I still love 'em). I was able to experiment with anything and put it down if I felt it might be getting out of hand. Wish I could say the same for those I've known/loved...sigh.

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posted January 16, 2007 12:08 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have pretty strong Pluto influences. I was on antidepressants for a short time, but they didn't make me feel any better, so I stopped.

I don't hate drugs, but I am severely paranoid about side effects (esp. to the blood pressure, liver, or repro organs). My father was very poor when he was growing up and couldn't afford proper healthcare, so he is very much into natural remedies. I'm heavily addicted to tea like him, but that's a fairly safe addiction.

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posted January 16, 2007 02:18 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gee, i will say it then- i REALLY liked drugs when i did them..

oh, yes, I was totally anti drug until about 16. Then I got a job- and hey, all the guys got a break to smoke a cigarette- and I started smoking too. That's the one I wish I never would have done.

The first time I smoked pot was the night i graduated from high school- i would never do it while in high school- because I didn't want to "ruin my mind." I didn't become a "stoner" until I was about 26 years old.

For a few years, I dabbled- only on holidays and long weekends from work. Yup, it was FUN!! Cocaine is fun if you aren't an idiot about it, pot is nice to relax, h@ll, even those "legal" prescription drugs can be a good time too. Ambien is still the best body buzz i have ever had.

Am I a druggie? I don't think so- considering I haven't done ANY drugs for about 7 years. And, I wasn't an idiot by wasting my youth on them. I have tried damn near everything (never heroin or acid, however..) I never lost a job, lived on the streets, or gave blow jobs for meth.

i agree with hippichick- i hate what people allow drugs to do to them. i don't understand addiction- i had no problems quitting anything (well, except those d@mn cigs- and I hate myself for being so weak.)

I am ruled by Pluto- with Neptune in the first house.


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posted January 16, 2007 04:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for D for Defiant     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Pluto in my 1st house (Libra).

Illicit drugs? I absolutely hate them.

Although back in my early twenties, I briefly encountered cannabis in a holiday resort town, and had smoked it several times throughout the following two years. I haven't tried it again for 2 1/2 years now, and I don't feel tempted by the notion of taking it, or any other substance that I don't think I need.

While it's fine by me that others experiment or linger on those drugs, some of those individuals call those "recreational drugs"- and I personally think it is an interesting issue to further investigate, but I would definitely refuse to try any drug.

One of the guys I met recently invited some others and me to try his prescription drugs- Tegretol (carbamazepine) and what he claimed to be dephenhydramine. He tried to lure me more than once- at least three or four times, I think, but I firmly declined.

Thanks to my larynx surgery done nearly three years ago, I have to remain abstinent from cigarettes and alcohol

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posted January 16, 2007 10:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So, if we are talking drugs used for medicinal pourposes, I support that (am a RN drugs are a part of my jop) but only when absolutely needed...

What really drives me crazy is psych drugs and I think they are SO over used-I see all of the time (and almost was a victim of myself) this chain of prescriptions for psych meds that create symptoms, more drugs to allieveate the symptoms and on and on....

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posted January 16, 2007 02:01 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pluto in 1st, in Libra, roughly opp. Sun. Yup, I'm pretty anti-drugs - but this could be my Virgo Asc. I have a horrendously bad hip right now but NOTHING could induce me to take painkillers (unless I have a really bad migraine and I feel I want to die). Trying to get rid of the ailment through yoga stretches, rest, etc.

Don't like doctors either, NHS or naturopathic, you wait around for ages to see them and then they basically tell you what you know already...you'd have to drag me into a hospital (particularly a British hospital)!

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posted January 16, 2007 02:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stargazer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pluto in the 8th
conjunct Uranus and Juno
Neptune Scorpio conjunct Mars

I have never taken any meds on a regular basis.
Antibiodics on occasion.
Script pain killers put me to sleep... can't work /take care of kids on them.
i have an Aqua friend who says they affect her like speed... never understood that??

I have a very addictive personality.
I have gotten carried away many times on the illicit type drugs...
But I am strong enough to step back and now I'm older so they've lost their appeal.. (thank god!) For me, it was the "escape"
Alcohol is my downfall
Doing better now after the depression of the holidays!
I have a very high threshold for pain...
Ibuprofin has always worked for me... even after surgery....

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posted January 16, 2007 05:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Pluto conjunct Ascendant. I hate anything that causes an addiction that leads loss of control.

I love coffee, wine / beer but for hard alcohol I will only drink Vodka and I did start smoking again, but will quit when I am ready.

I abhor strong drugs and sadly I do think less of people that have to "light up, drink a case or shoot up". To me that loss of control is ugly and when I see someone that does that I want to just barf.

I am like that with any addiction though- Gluttony is a big one- someone that can't stop eating or is so overweight yet they pile on the food at a buffet. Even health addicts creep me out because most of them try to force their weird eating habits on everyone else. They can keep their addiction to wheat germ and anti-meat campaigns just stay out of my space when I am happily cutting into my steak and washing it down with a nice glass of wine

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posted January 16, 2007 07:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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re: your Aqua friend, when one is not in pain, then narcotics act on the body as an upper~~that is why so many people get hooked!

I had a RN friend go through this, trying to stop drinking she began to nip the till at work, so to speak and became addicted to morphine~~it is a HUGE upper for those who have no pain receptors for the narcotic agent to bind to in the body.

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posted January 17, 2007 04:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cassy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
4th house Pluto 29°41'55

Pluto trine Asc 1°33
Pluto trine Moon 0°09
Pluto square Mercury 1°52
Pluto sextile Venus 0°48
Pluto sextile Jupiter 0°53
Pluto sextile Neptune 2°30

I'm with MK. I've tried a few things but mostly out of curiosity, but only after I turned 30 (must the reverse aging of Cappie). I smoked quite a lot of weed at some stage but now I can't stand it, not for others, but myself. Drugs are not for me (my curiosity is satisfied). I will not take much prescription drugs either. Painkillers are always in my house as I must be really desperate to take them.

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posted January 17, 2007 04:22 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
pluto means drugs<i wonder where is my pluto,be spesific what drugs recreational,or docor precribshion drugs

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posted January 17, 2007 05:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mezzoelf1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually, I think the whole 'Pluto Drugs' thing needs clarifying. Anyone with a strong Pluto influence will feel a natural pull towards all things hidden, including experiences - naturally experimentation with drugs may form part of this process. However, what we should also remember is that Pluto is all to do with change and regeneration. If you suffer an addiction to drugs, but have a strong Pluto influence then you are more likely to 'come off' drugs with success and with a deeper understanding of just how dangerous they are.

There are also those with Pluto influences who have an innate understanding of drugs without having to experience them.

On a different tack, conventional medicine is generally pretty crap but if you have a nasty strep throat and the drugs to cure that exist then why fight taking them? We are lucky to live in a time when some medical developments really are of benefit. Being careful souls we just need to know when and how such things should be approached!

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posted January 17, 2007 05:10 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I always associate Neptune with drugs

Pluto is about control

I met a few Scorpio people who dont like taking drugs, cos it means losing it......

Control that is.....

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posted January 17, 2007 05:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mezzoelf1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ha ha ha! That is sooooooo true! Sue g you are a clever and insightful lady.
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