posted January 20, 2007 04:20 PM              

OH and i have some questions based off of my stellium in the 4th, including my sagittarius cusp, Sun, Venus, Mercury, Uranus, juno, lilith, part of fortune, valentine, (more asteroids),
Aspects:
Sun conjunct Venus
Venus conjunct part of fortune
Uranus trine AC
Mercury Trine Jupiter
Venus Trine Jupiter

A. Would I ever go homeless? (just sort of a hypothetical question)

B. Seems like from my destine home would possibly have a sort of palatial feel to it and different from the enviornment in which i was raised (Uranus), its not like i just have Venus singleton in the 4th, its conjunct with the sun, and its sagittarius cusp(thats the wealthiest IC), is my prediction true? and so from analyzing what consists of my stellium, the cusp of my IC, and its aspects, where am i most likely to end up living... my grandma's backyard, the hilton hotel, my boyfriends crib, the newyork plaza, or underneath a bridge?

lol, honesty counts!

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Virgo Rising 8'57, Sagittarius Sun/4thH 3'26, Pisces Moon/6thH 8'22

"Our passions are not too strong, they are too weak. We are far too easily pleased." - C.S. Lewis

posted January 20, 2007 07:02 PM              

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have moved around a lot, and just generally havent have good luck home wise

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Gemini Nymph,
i think its definitely more than your IC. I'm a little concerned, because i know from research that sagittarius IC is the wealthiest IC and usually lives in a luxurious enviornment, unless their jupiter is in bad shape or is in a sign that is not elementally or directionally(mutable,cardinal,fixed) compatibile with sagittarius. So Look to the position and aspect of your Jupiter, what house does it fall in, what aspects does it have to the ruling planet of your 2nd house, good things to look for.

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I doubt you'll go homeless if your 4H placements and aspects are any indication. Venus cj PoF trine Jupiter sounds awfully lucky to me. I don't know if you'll live anywhere "palatial" but I suspect you'll be comfortable.

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instinctively and honestly, i don't think anything would be more 'palatial' then those positions, perhaps if you threw pluto, or leo in there, well cancel out leo 'cause the sun is already there, and pluto isn't really luxurious its just, intense, but my Jupiter is square pluto, so i'm sure that has an effect too. Everythings there, theres nothing to add, or take away, lol

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Virgo Rising 8'57, Sagittarius Sun/4thH 3'26, Pisces Moon/6thH 8'22

"Our passions are not too strong, they are too weak. We are far too easily pleased." - C.S. Lewis

posted January 20, 2007 08:06 PM              

Jupiter - Scorpio
Ceres - Scorpio
Saturn - Libra
Pluto - Libra

Sun Trine Jupiter
Sun Trine Pluto
Mars Conjunction Saturn
Mercury Trine Saturn
Jupiter Conjunct Pluto
Neptune Sextile Pluto
Pluto Square Ascendant
Jupiter Conjunct Ceres

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I know you see me looking at you and you already know......I wanna love you, you already know.

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posted January 20, 2007 08:43 PM              

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I know you see me looking at you and you already know......I wanna love you, you already know.

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i love that Akon and snoop dogg song! love it!

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Virgo Rising 8'57, Sagittarius Sun/4thH 3'26, Pisces Moon/6thH 8'22

"Our passions are not too strong, they are too weak. We are far too easily pleased." - C.S. Lewis

posted January 20, 2007 08:45 PM              

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near some time of land mass

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should be this:

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near some type of land mass

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posted January 20, 2007 09:13 PM              

also in my fourth house is Neptune(neptune aspects every thing in my chart,so I'm not gunna list the aspects).... both my mother and father were alcoholics.... and I spent most of my time in my head imagining wonderful and happy things.... and my father was gone most of the time...
and theres Neptune for you.....sigh....grrrr I hate my fourth house

posted January 20, 2007 09:17 PM              

Growing up we lived in only three homes that I remember, but since I've left home I haven't lived in one place for more than 3 yrs. I stayed in homeless shelters for more than a year one time, too. Not sure how all that ties into my 4th house Moon.

My moon opposes Pluto, trines my sun, merc, and venus, and is conjunct the NN. None of which screams out "travel bug" or lots of moving about to me.

posted January 20, 2007 09:19 PM            

however, IC in Aries
Mars in Aquarius, 2nd house
Mars opposite Moon
Mars square Sun
Mars square Venus
Mars square Pluto
Mars sextile Saturn
Mars sextile Uranus

posted January 20, 2007 09:24 PM              

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Virgo Rising 8'57, Sagittarius Sun/4thH 3'26, Pisces Moon/6thH 8'22

"Our passions are not too strong, they are too weak. We are far too easily pleased." - C.S. Lewis

posted January 20, 2007 09:27 PM              

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will either be the parents favorite or a spoiled only child. This placement is the most likely of all to retire in their 20’s or 30’s and lie on the beach in some tropical paradise. If you have this one, I hate you. You really need a larger than normal home (or one with a great view) or you’ll feel claustrophobic. Later in life, you will tend to travel, study, or both. Aside from the fact that he thought he understood everything, Daddy was a jovial type.

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posted January 21, 2007 12:13 AM              

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Taurus Sun conjunct Taurus IC. My Venus (Gemini, 5th) is opposite Uranus (Sagittarius, 11th) and square to my Jupiter (Pisces, 2nd) creating a T-Square. My Moon (Gemini) is also in the 4th house... I've always lived comfortably.

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i think i have 2 t-squares, one involving venus opposition Mars(in Gemini conjunct my MC) both square moon(in pisces in 6th), and sun opp. Mars with both square moon, because of my sun conjunct venus conjunct my IC of sagittarius

taurus is quite a comfortable IC to have, especially with sun and moon there, your home life probably comforts your ego and emotions combined, thats definitely more comfortable than luxurious, your positions compared to mine help me with the distinction i was trying to show GeminiNymph between comfort and luxury.

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Virgo Rising 8'57, Sagittarius Sun/4thH 3'26, Pisces Moon/6thH 8'22

"Our passions are not too strong, they are too weak. We are far too easily pleased." - C.S. Lewis

posted January 22, 2007 12:11 PM              

spirituality is one as aloneinkyoto said as well as illusion, confusion, naivety, intuition, compassion, addiction, deceit, guilt, trickery, disillusionment, fantasy and dreaminess, artsiness. I think how it shows its self has a lot to do with what triggers it in the chart.

some examples of how I think my neptune were negatively triggered
aires moon(mother) square neptune, my mother had a wild temper on her as the sign on Aries. was a alcoholic, an artist

cancer mars(father) opposition neptune, also a alcoholic, as is common of mars in caner my father was more passive. But I still got hit a lot by him not to mention the psychological abuse, another of neptunes wonderful sides.

another clear sign that something was going to go wrong was my MC quincux neptune.
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/astrological-aspects/neptune-quincunx-midheaven-mc.php

Kay Libra what are your sons aspects to his neptune?

posted January 22, 2007 12:34 PM            

Reading this thread has helped me make sense of it a little. My home has always been very nurturing/emotional, but also a giant headf*ck... and it makes sense now that I realize the ruler of my IC is in the 12th.

My moon makes a wide square with Pluto and square with my ASC... Also, Saturn is square Venus and Neptune, trine my Moon... Moon is conjunct my IC.

I grew up in a house with a lot of emotional turmoil, lots of screaming and battles, and now as an adult, a lot of emotional blackmail... I've always felt over-nurtured and smothered and suffocated, it's like my family would like nothing more than for me to forfeit all my independence and by completely reliant on them and stick to them no matter what. Financially, emotionally, in every way. It's so unhealthy. I've felt really sabotaged by them in my life and my goals. My father is a big whiny loser who was NEVER around either, and as an adult trying to build a relationship with him, I've stopped bothering, because I always feel hurt and rejected by him.

When I was married, it was more of the same. I was totally verbally abused, harrassed, harangued, put down... it was more of this "I want to smother you and cripple you and beat you down so you will stay with me forever, I NEED YOU I NEED YOU I NEED YOU" stuff.

As far as my physical homes, growing up, we lived in an exceptionally beautiful enormous Victorian home, then we moved when I was about 10 to a smaller home, which was still very beautiful, but much less "wow" factor. my grandparents felt they were getting too old to properly maintain the Victorian home. I was so thrilled when we moved to the 'normal' house... as a kid, I always hated having the flashy house, i really felt the resentment, I was so happy about being 'normal'... geeezzz.