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Scorpionic Web
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posted January 24, 2007 09:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scorpionic Web     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey, just wondering if anyone has info or links for death aspects or transits.

I remember once reading that a strong indicator of one's own death is some sort of aspect between Uranus, Mars and MidHeaven... something to do with midpoints and transits... I can't recall exactly... but there must be other clues...

So much of what I read says "For the well-being of the readers, in order to not cause undue alarm, death significators will not be included in these texts"... and so forth...

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Sweet Stars
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posted January 24, 2007 09:37 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When I get home from school I'll check my father's chart and get back to you.


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Gemini Nymph
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posted January 24, 2007 09:55 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know if this is what you're looking of or not:
http://death.findyourfate.com/death-planets.htm

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Gemini Nymph
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posted January 24, 2007 10:01 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's a couple sites that address Jupiter and Steve Irwin's death:
http://www.bigskyastrology.com/bloggish/2006/09/04/jupiter-isnt-always-santa-claus/
http://theastrologypage.blogspot.com/2006/09/steve-irwin-goodbye.html

And Princess Di (although this is rather dense info-wise, deals with a lot more than just transits, and how it's written is a little confusing):
http://accessnewage.com/articles/astro/HEADIANA.HTM

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posted January 25, 2007 11:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stargazer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Info related to your 8th house cusp.
http://www.soultrek.com/interp8.html

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libraschoice7
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posted January 25, 2007 11:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for libraschoice7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You know there was this site I came across awhile back ago, before I knew of Linda-Land. It had all the planets in astrology and how the death was imposed and the type, it gave some aspects. It made me alittle nervous reading it so I never really bookmarked it, but I'll try looking for it for you guys.

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lalalinda
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posted January 25, 2007 05:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not the Midhaven Scorpionic Web but the Nadir (end of life)

Look for transits to the 8th house, 8th house ruler, possibly the Sun (giver of life) and/or the ruler of the Ascendant. Since every chart is so unique there is no one set rule and there is usually at least one major generational planet making a hard aspect by transit to the personal planet/s.
Mars can act as a trigger.

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Knowflake

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posted January 25, 2007 08:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scorpionic Web     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I distinctly remember the source saying MidHeaven.

Anyway, the more writings I find, the more it sounds like all sorts of combinations can create the possibility of death.

Thanks to everyone.

I'm concerned about my Sag/Gem/Pisces girl. She's been exceedingly reckless and erratic. I know it could just be that Uranus in transit is now forming a conjunction with her natal Ascendant.

But it goes further than that... Uranus in Pisces (her 12th house) is now tightly opposing her natal Saturn (6th house). Soon Uranus will create a huge Grand Cross to her natal chart. Natal Asc/SN conjunct transitting Uranus in Pisces, opposite natal NN/Desc/Saturn in Virgo, all in square to natal Sun/MC/Neptune in Sagittarius opposite natal Moon/Nadir in Gemini. All within orb.

Her actions have been dangerously absentminded. These are all Mutable signs and I once read that Mutable signs by nature are "closer to the ethers" and often fulfill their karmic duty early and die younger than Cardinal signs which "push on" and Fixed signs which "hang on" to life.

Also, I've read that a Grand Cross can be an omen of death, as it is though the 4 corners create an equal pull on the body and soul and essentially cause a fatal eruption of disagreeable energies...

She just left to spend several weeks on top of a mountain in frigid temperatures in typical Sagittarius spontaneity.

I hope her Sadge Sun luck comes through.

I think I'm just being a paranoid Scorpio...

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posted January 25, 2007 09:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BornUnderDioscuri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The most disturbing article I have ever seen and it creeps me out. Im quite sorry i read it but if you wish: http://www.astrology-x-files.com/x-files/parent-predecease.html

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posted January 25, 2007 09:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scorpionic Web     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmmm... I don't know anything about all that asteroid stuff. I'm more than busy enough trying to synthesize the planets, angles, etc...

My dad (a Gemini) died at the age of 56 when I was 16. I couldn't ever get a birth time, so I never bothered looking too closely at his placements. The aspect that stands out most to me was that transitting Pluto had a very tight opposition to his natal Sun-Saturn Midpoint when he died.

I know Pluto rules "ultimate" death (like Uranus is "accidental" death, etc)... He had a massive coronary artery explosion and dropped dead right where he stood.

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posted January 26, 2007 03:35 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
SW something I found and saved here in LL, I can't remember whose post it is, though there is a signature at the bottom that should look familiar, though I can't place it...

Anyway, here it is the post in it's entirety without any editing...

Starts here>> However, for the sake of knowledge, i shall note the traditional way death is predicted by astrologers.


WARNING:- DO NOT, I Repeat, DO NOT TRY THIS ON YOUR OWN CHART. PLEASE PRACTICE THESE RULES ON FAMOUS DEAD CELEBS (MARYLIN MONROE, JFK, ELVIS PRESLEY, etc) OR PEOPLE YOU KNOW WHO HAVE ALREADY PASSED AWAY.

IF YOU HAVE NO INTEREST IN PREDICTING DEATH, AND CHOOSE NOT TO KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT, DON'T READ ANY FURTHER.

THIS IS MEANT FOR THE SAKE OF FURTHERING ONE'S ASTROLOGICAL KNOWLEDGE AND NOT FOR SIMPLE DABBLING. THIS IS SERIOUS STUFF.

ABUSE OF SUCH INFOMATION CAN ONLY LEAD TO ADVERSE CONDITIONS TO YOURSELF

YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!


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Mortality is of two kinds -- natural, arising from disease or old age; and accidental/violent, arising from a variety of causes.

A natural death may be judged to ensue when there are no other signs in the horoscope to the contrary.

A violent or accidental death occurs when the Sun and Moon are afflicted by a malefic, and when no assistance is given by Jupiter or Venus.

Again, when the sun is afflicted by one malefic, and the Moon by another, or when the Moon alone is afflicted by more than one malefic, or the Sun alone by more than one, providing always that no assistance be given by Jupiter or Venus, then a violent death ensues.

The afflicting planets being in the violent signs - Aries, Scorpio, Capricorn - is an additional sign of violence; also if the Sun or Moon be in these signs.

The following aspects occuring in a horoscope give a warning of a violent death:-

1. Mars afflicting Sun and Moon by conjunction or aspect, or afflicting one of the luminaries only, and elevated above it.

2. The Sun or Moon afflicted by the malefics in the first, fourth, sixth, eight, or tenth house.

3. A malefic in the first or eight, or on the cusp of the seventh, if at ther same time afflicting the luminaires, or one of them.

4. Malefics opposing one another from angles, particularly from violent signs or cardinal signs.

5. Both the Sun and Moon afflicted by one or more of the malefics, if one of the luminaries and one of the afflicting planets be in a violent sign.

6. Both luminaries luminaries afflicted by a malefic, one of the luminaries being oriental.

7. Two malefics attacking the same luminary

8. Pluto and Neptune must both be considered as malefic planets if they are afflicted by adverse aspects, especially of the Sun, Moon, Mars or Saturn. If Pluto is in the 8th, this will give indication of death occuring through ebign involved in some public catastrophe connected with the work that is being carried out, such as explosion, building collapse (Many 9/11 victims had this), or if in one of the National Services (military, civil servant..etc) through such things as mines, torpedoes, submarine crash. If in private life through such catastrophes as mine disasters, underground subway crashes, train collidings, etc. Neptune in the eight will bring a danger of drowning, of poison or of death through wrong drugs being taken or administered or of overdose of an anaesthetic or narcotic, or even alcohol.


If, with these indications, you find Jupiter or Venus in trine or sextile to the afflicted, then danger is averted by strange interventions, or hairbreadth escapes will be made.

When the afflicting planets are to human signs - Gemini, Virgo, Sagittarius, Aquarius - dthe death will be by human means.

The eight and fourth houses have chief signifaction in the matter, and the planets in them, together with their aspects, will indicate the nature of the death. Violent planets, such as Uranus and Mars, or Saturn and Neptune, when in violent signs, are testimonies of an untimely end.

When Neptune is the afflicting planet, he causes deaths by ambush and treachery, by drowning and by strange spiritual causes. There is danger of trance or simulated death, which must be carefully watched.

With Uranus as the cause of evil, death results in some extraordinary and remarkable manner. It inclines to suicide, especially if Mercury be found weak and badly afflicted, or Venus afflicted by Saturn or Uranus, and the luminaries also afflicted.

Saturn causes death by crushes, fractures, falls, drownings etc, according to its sign and house.

Mars causes death by burns, cuts, loss of blood, scalds, ruptures, frenzy, and in battle. The exact nature is usually judged by the sign occupied by Mars, but the house occupied by Saturn and Uranus must also be considered, in addiction to the signs they are in.

The planet Mars has special signification of the cause of death according to the sign it occupies, whether human, animal, airy, fiery, earthy, etc. Observe always whether the malefics afflicting the Sun or Moon are elevated above the luminary or the reverse; for when you find the malefic so afflicting, and in elevation above the luminary, it is a sure sign of a violent death.

The lord of the eight house being afflicted by malefic planets is an additional sign of a violent death.

DO NOT JUDGE A VIOLENT DEATH WILL HAPPEN, UNLESS THE POSITIONS ARE VERY STRIKING AND UNMISTAKABLE.

When death is judged to ensue from "natural" causes, the sixth and eight houses are taken into consideration, together with the signs in which the malefics may be placed.

Fixed signs show death by blood (Aquarius), disorder of the throat (Taurus), heart affections (Leo), and the reproductive organs (Scorpio).

Mutable signs show colds and affections of the lungs (Gemini), bowels (Virgo), and nervous system (Sagittarius and Pisces)

Cardinal signs denote death by affections of the head, brain, fever etc. (Aries), stomach (Cancer), the kidneys, liver, gall bladder etc (Libra), also erysipelas and disorders of the skin (Capricorn)

If Saturn be in the eight house, the death will be slow and tedious; Mars there, it will be quick and painful; Uranus, sudden and unexpected; Jupiter, in comfort and order; Venus, peaceful and without any pang or throe of pain. The Moon and Mercury are passive, and act according to the nature of the planet in nearest aspect; but the Moon has a signification of death in the public, or in the presence of strangers, in public hospitals and other places of a public nature, when other testimonies point that way. Neptune in the eight operates to produce trance, coma, and simulated death, endinc in syncope.


EXAMPLE:-

Adolf Hitler provides the perfect example of one who through his own stupidity met a violent end. Throwing away the opportunity of living and dying as one of the world's greatest characters in history, he came to a violent end in the ruins of Berlin. His Libra rising, with venus, his ruling planet in the sign Taurus in conjunction with Mars, both within the eight house. His Sun was also in Taurus and in the eight house. Venus and Mars were square to Saturn which was in Leo and elevated in his chart, showing a rise to power, and a tremendous fall from power.


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PLEASE TAKE THIS INFOMATION SERIOUSLY. PRACTICE THE WAY I MENTIONED ABOVE. NEVER EVER EVER MAKE THE DIRE MISTAKE OF LOOKING AT YOUR OWN AND LOVED ONE'S CHARTS AT ALL. REFUSE TO MAKE DEATH PREDICTIONS FOR ANYONE. USE THESE INSTRUCTIONS ONLY TO FURTHER YOUR OWN ASTROLOGICAL KNOWLEDGE.

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Knowflake

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posted January 26, 2007 08:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scorpionic Web     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, regarding that info-

So the Sagittarius I wrote about above will be right in the middle of the NN/ASC/Saturn/Desc/Sun/MidHeaven/Neptune/Moon/Nadir Grand Cross, along with transitting Pisces Uranus in the 1st house trine natal Scorpio Uranus in the 8th, and transitting Pluto in Cap will conjunct her natal Mars, everything around March of next year...

...sh*t... I hope I'm just freaking myself out.

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posted January 26, 2007 10:43 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
wanna live for ever Jupiter

upiter is involved in aggressive cancers where there is cellular regeneration at optimum, and tumors are present, or an aggressive lymphoma. Ailments involving the liver can also come from this planet, as well. Tumors are Jupiter's "thing." It is also, by co-rulership of the liver, tied into the lymphatic system as well which is why, in many forms of cancer and dying of cancer, the Jupiter is active by transit or progression. On the other hand, Jupiter is also the "guardian angel" provided it is in good, soft aspect at the time. If it is, it means a gentle, non-struggling death. Transit is easy and comes all at once, although the person may linger for days, weeks, or even months. With a good Jupiter aspect around at the time, the person does not suffer as much. They will also have a wonderful, optimistic, open attitude about their passing into the next world.

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posted January 26, 2007 11:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BornUnderDioscuri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
. NEVER EVER EVER MAKE THE DIRE MISTAKE OF LOOKING AT YOUR OWN AND LOVED ONE'S CHARTS AT ALL.

Ive never been good with listening to warnings now this made me superbly depressed from this other place i read stuff...Now i quit doing that lol so yea i hope ppl dont start looking at their charts or someone elses

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Sweet Stars
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posted January 27, 2007 12:50 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well if anyone wants to try:

MY Father: Born on April 15, 1956 12:00pm


Died: April 24, 1987 around 11:00am


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Mercury Gemini
Taurus Moon *29
Venus Taurus
Mars Libra

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jenfullmoon
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posted January 31, 2007 01:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jenfullmoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If anyone wants to take a shot at my dad's chart, it's here. I can't see anything helpful with regards to predicting when his death did occur at all here.
http://fullmoon.vox.com/library/photo/6a00c2251c2bfa604a00d09e518c3cbe2b.html

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posted January 31, 2007 05:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scorpionic Web     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I find Synastry by far the easiest branch of astrology to delineate, and I imagine Predictive astrology would be, by far, the most difficult.

I only mentioned my Sagittariette because she has a particularly concerning natal chart and she'll be going through some intense transits. They all involve the 'malefics' in dangerous houses, which will peak in spring of 2008. I'm definitely interested to see what happens in her life then.

I just thought perhaps someone would have a list of aspects that are most prevalent between death charts, natal charts, and the death/natal composites.

...like Carl Jung's surveys... "Of 400 married couples, 6.2% had Mars-conjunct-Mars"... that sort of thing.

Oh well.

Where else can I get some raw astrological statistics like those?

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Happy Dragon
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posted January 31, 2007 05:49 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
.. not quite sure who it was..
but there was a well known american astrologer who predicted his own death
i don't remember the year .. in the late 1980's i think ..

.. remember reading about it in ' horoscope ' magazine ( site on web ) ..
what stood out was the fact there were some nice easy flowing transits/progressions about ..
.. Jupiter and the Moon were mentioned ..
conclusion in the article was that 'death' is a doorway to another place ..
and not something to be feared .. something like that ..
there was talk of 'an easy transition' .. just whish i could remember the astrologers name ..
he was from new york i think .. but don't quote me on that :-))

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posted January 31, 2007 05:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scorpionic Web     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, I read the Steve Irwin-Jupiter transit link posted a while back. And we all know Jupiter is the "higher self" planet, breeding many followers of religion, in touch with their spiritual selves.

Saturn is the restrictive karma, Jupiter hands out the good karma, hence they compose the "middle planets"; the karmic Yin and Yang of the solar system. Distributing the good karma (or "luck"), Jupiter surely holds certain keys for admittance out of this life and on to a bigger and better one.

The Sag's Jupiter will largely be out of aspect for much of 2008.

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posted February 01, 2007 05:31 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Astrology and Death?? yeah, make yourself go crazy by predicting your own and others death. Astrology cant predict everything, dont live your lives after the transits and aspects of the Planets. We all got something called FREE WILL ;P
I only use astrology for birth chart interpretation, thats more than enough.

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posted February 01, 2007 06:29 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I rarely use transits

Yes I agree in the free will thing too and love to use astology for character analysis....

The problem with transits i feel is, if the use of them falls in to the laps of the more obsessive type of person, this could cause trouble for the person...

How far would you take it...."oohh I better not buy that pair of shoes today cos the planets dictate I may choose the wrong colour"

Transits have a very useful place, but if overused, then then can become a crutch like religion and booze and drugs etc etc

Having said that, had I been more mindful of their presence in the past, I may not have made such profoundly disasterous decisions in my life....

But then again, my life may have lacked colour

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posted February 01, 2007 02:05 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just looking at these links mad me feel scary. I've tried not to think about death...but unfortuantely, I have a 8th House stellium.

"Why do people have to die? Do they go to heaven or hell? Most people believe that there is a heaven but don't believe that there is a hell. So they believe in God and disbelieve in the Devil."

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Hank Campbell
Far Rockaway, Queens, NY
*Sun: 8th House/Leo, Moon: 3rd House/Pisces, Venus: 8th House/Leo, Mars: 6th House/Cancer, Jupiter: 8th House/Leo, Saturn: 8th House/Virgo, ASC: Capricorn

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