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amberandmatt
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posted February 04, 2007 06:49 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi my name is Amber I've been reading this forum for a few months just never saying anything.

I'm here now just to see if anyone can help me with a couple questions.

I've known my husband about 6 years, we've been married 3 1/2 and he's been in prison almost a 1 1/2 year.s

Our relationship has always been rocky mostly because of the lack of communication plus we were very young when we married.

Lately, things have been wonderful. My 2 questions are
1. Is there anything in his chart to suggest that he has changed and he may not mess up too horribly much more in his life?

2. If our relationship will continue to be good (with the normal "couple" problems and such) and things may just work out well with us?

He was born Feb 22 1980 in Bloomington IL at around 10a- we're not sure cause he was adopted but he has extremely curly, dark hair, a big build, 6ft 2in, dark skin and eyes and a large nose. I think his ascendant is a Taurus from his personality traits but I'm not sure.

I was born Jan 5 1985 in Fort Worth TX at 3:45a

Any kind of help is greatly appreciated. I'm hoping for the answers I'd like to hear but if there's anything terrible in there I'd like to be prepared for it.
amber

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Azalaksh
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posted February 04, 2007 10:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Amber, your husband is in prison. People who go to prison are generally guilty of some kind of crime against society.

I'd be wondering if this is the first time he's run afoul of the law or if it's a pattern. Of course things are going well between you when he's in prison!! You visit and things are nice and lovely. You go home and there's no fighting, no lack of communication because there's NO communication!! Neither of you have to deal with Life as a couple, with all its attendant challenges and provocations.

Amber please read this thread:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/012497.html

If you are determined to be blind to the character flaws and legal issues and lack of coping skills your husband has, then neither astrology nor anyone on this forum will be able to help you.

Good Luck,
Zala

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amberandmatt
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posted February 04, 2007 10:59 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you very much for replying. I didn't really say too much in that mostly because I was just curious if there was anythng significant in his chart. I only know simple things houses, signs, cusps so I can't get too much from a chart.

Yes, this is the first time- he got drunk fell asleep driving and killed a man.

The communication is great- we've been honest about so much and made a lot of progress.

I was thinking the same thing that you brought up at first, no actually that's what everyone says so of course it weighs heavy on my mind- since so many inmates are that way.

I'm not looking for a specific answer, I was just looking for any insight if it was there.

Thanks for the link and replying as well. And the advice that I'm sure was of good intention.

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Azalaksh
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posted February 04, 2007 11:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Yes, this is the first time- he got drunk fell asleep driving and killed a man.
What a tragedy that is And Matt will have to live with that for the rest of his life.....

I'll take a look at his chart and see if there are any troublesome issues. But one's natal chart is only half of the equation -- your emotional and spiritual maturity, and the willingness to work on yourself is the other half of the equation.....

Here's one area that could be an issue:

Saturn square Ascendant: Appropriate relationships

End of September 2006 until beginning of July 2007: This influence signifies a time of severe testing in your relationships with others. The demands of your work or the demands of your personal life will force you to reevaluate which relationships in your life are worth keeping and which are not. If you do not face this challenge consciously, the pressure of events will force you to do so, because people who have been with you for a long time will leave against your wishes.

There is often a strong tendency to build a wall between you and others without even realizing it. The only way you will know is that suddenly you will feel alone and out of touch with everybody. You may feel that you have no support from others, even loved ones whom you have counted on in the past for love and support. This may represent a temporary state of affairs or a passing mood. Or it may represent a serious breakdown in your relationships because of misplaced priorities in the past or because of associating with people who were wrong for you in terms of your personal goals and needs.

In the case of misplaced priorities, perhaps you have paid more attention to getting ahead in life than to giving and receiving love. Or perhaps in the past, fear of your own inadequacies or fear that you are unlovable has made you withdraw from others. Now the consequences of these problems are emerging, causing you to feel alone.

In the second case, the problem is that in terms of your direction in life, the people you associate with are a distraction or are actually opposed to your interests. In this case, no matter how much you love them, walls will form between you and them, and you will have to begin a new life without them.

With this influence several significant relationships will inevitably end. But if you have a clear idea of where you are going, this will not be a great disadvantage. Whatever remorse you feel will be quickly displaced by a new sense of freedom, because you are no longer wasting energy in trying to maintain inappropriate relationships.

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hippichick
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posted February 04, 2007 11:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a dear friend who stuck with her fiance while he was encarcerated in the federal pen for a fencing operation---stuck with him for 8 years.

He was released a few months ago and they are trying to re-build a life together...

She says that a big part of relationships is all about what one person is willing to accept from the other person and vice-versa...

She is a very wise, Cap lady, in her mid fifties, holds 2 bachelors degrees, one in nursing and one in psychology and would be the last person that I would expect to stay with someone so long and not to mention many $$ later.

Everyone is entitled to mistakes, but as you grow yourself, you may find what you want and need may change....

Blessings~~~

Terri

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Ling
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posted February 04, 2007 11:26 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I loved and dated this guy who went prison too, he wasn't a bad character as I did like the way he treated his mom really well. He just made a mistake when he was young... he steered way away from his old lifestyle and i respect that. We just drifted apart like some couples do.

The thing is amber, what you want when you are 16 and when you are 22 is very different. If you are asking questions, you are probably in doubt of the security he can provide... which is good... Realistic practicality is good. You need to know whether he can give what you want. Talk to him... astrology cannot tell you if he will be successful or faithful...

In my opinion, youth is on your side, keep your options open... know yourself better.

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"If you love a flower which happens to be on a star, it is sweet at night to gaze at the sky. All the stars are a riot of flowers."

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william
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posted February 05, 2007 04:25 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi amber,
i looked at the composite chart of your relationship.ans mars is opposed to uranus,i strong indication that he will always be wild and independent.venus is square to neptune which indicates that he wont be faithful and there will be deception in the rerlationship.the mars/venus midpoint is opposed to the pluto/saturn conjunction indicating that this relationship is based more on control and domination rather than love. the composite does not really indicate a stable relationship.
looking at your chart,you have a saturn on the ascendant with a exact conjunction with the uranus/pluto midpoint.this can indicate a violent abusive environment as a child and it can indicate that you are subject to depressive states and low self esteem in general.
men who are in jail tend to be very loving and considerate as they know having a place to come "home" to is important.overall you are in a relationship with him that is based on your need for security and he seems to be a surrogate for your abusive father figure.i would suggest you talk to a counselor to figure out why you are in this relationship in the first place.
william

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Sweet Stars
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posted February 05, 2007 04:29 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My sister was with a guy for a couple of years who would go back in forth to jail all the time.


They would stay together and she would visit him......until he stole my mom's credit card.


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Cancer Ascendant
Mercury Gemini
Taurus Moon *29
Venus Taurus
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Scorpionic Web
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posted February 05, 2007 04:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scorpionic Web     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ah, Pisces and alcohol. My Pisces mother is a dangerous alcoholic. People who are like her give alcohol a bad name.

And Pisces, of course, rules Prisons.

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Jan_A
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posted February 06, 2007 05:09 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi, Amber!
I wanna give you a hope. Your Asc is in Opposition to his Asc. It is an exellent aspect for partnership.
Communication is a weak point.
You both have Saturn Square Asc till July. If in August you still think He is Mr Right, stay with him!
However since October transiting Jupiter is in your 1st house. It is the best time to meet good partners.
You said contact is better since "lately". How "lately" ? If one week or something like that it is just transiting Venus, and it will probably get worse.
If "lately" means since October - go for it!
P.S. Anyway this year is perfect for closing old partnerships and starting something new.
Bye

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amberandmatt
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posted February 06, 2007 09:05 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you William and Jan_A. I appreciate the both of you so much for checking for me.

A bit more just to let you all know since most of the conclusions and opinions have been a bit on the down side. The 10 months before my husband got sentenced after his wreck things were well then. Our communication pretty much imporved after that but now that he's in prison it just keeps on improving.

I s'pose because all we do is sit across from eachother and talking had to happen and now it's just normal. We've been honest about everything.

And actually, I was the one that was unfaithful- it may be in his chart but that's just not something that he'd do- the free will and all can mess with charts.

Anywho, the wreck was 2 years ago he's been in for a year and a few months things are great, I have hope they will continue to be. I just wanted to know so I could be sure to stay realistic.

My husband will always be wild and very independant that's what I love about him. But coming out of prison at almost 30 and seeing him now he's changed- he still has it in him but not like he did.

Anywho, I think you both so much and we will continue to work on our relationship.

Jan a special thanks to you- when you take someones hope it gives them no reason to live. And basically woulda given me a ton of reason to divorce my husband if I hadn't known him for 6 years and been married 3 1/2. But just hearing the good things reminded me it can go bad or good it depends on him. Thank you so much and thank everyone else as well.

amber

Oh, and William I'm not sure how you can't see something in our chart. Your statement about how I should find out why I'm even in the relationship. Thank you for the honesty but we are so much alike it's scary, he is my best friend I have shared so many things with him no one will ever know we like the same music and we have just about everything in common except for my dependency issue haha. :/

I can only blame the tidbits that are wrong on the path he chose or the fact his birth time is not precise.

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Yang
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posted February 06, 2007 09:19 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome

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foolsgold
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posted February 06, 2007 05:36 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My guy was in prison. 3 times. For quite a long time.. But he changed his ways.. And I don't think he'll ever end up in prison again. He was a biker.. He's not anymore..
He used to be a criminal. He's not anymore..
I'm usually not one to believe in anything (Sag sun, scorpio moon + mercury, virgo asc.)- I believe in him.

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sinderlou
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posted February 06, 2007 08:25 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sounds like he may be old enought to finally change his ways...good luck to you both

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Jan_A
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posted February 07, 2007 02:22 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Amber!
I just wanted to answer your 1st question. I think the time of heavy turbulences in Matt's live is over. The only danger, he can fall in depression this autumn.
Looking at your chart, you will have a lot of work this year. With Jupiter in 1st house, i hope, you started to do something new last autumn. Good luck for you!

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amberandmatt
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posted February 07, 2007 05:32 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you again Jan!I hope you are right aout the turbulence in his life- I strongly believe that is true but we will have to see. Thanks about the tip for autumn.

Me?! A lot of work? I sure hope you mean job work cause I just got my EMT license about 3 weeks ago and have yet to find a job and I'm losing it sitting around the house all day in this state with no friends and nothing to do! And yep, after Matt went to prison I went home to Texas to be with my family for 10 months and last Autumn I moved back to IL to see my husband and went to school for that EMT license I have now.

Thanks again, that wasn't too horrible and I hope things this year end up going that smoothly!

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