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neptune5
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posted February 09, 2007 01:11 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I will add that the feminine planets / luminaries in you chart are significantly subverted and that the 6th house indicates some concerns in the realm of health.

one guy i trust whose doing an important reading for me told me that my feminine planets and luminaries are subverted, meaning ruined, destroyed, overthrown.

is that the case? if so, what does it mean for me?

and also what health concerns should i watch for?

(i hope the chart shows big enough)


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Virgo Rising 8'57, Sagittarius Sun/4thH 3'26, Pisces Moon/6thH 8'22

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Gemini Nymph
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posted February 09, 2007 01:34 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What? You trust someone like this?

First off, your venus and moon are conjunct angles and fall in angular houses. This is called "accidental dignity." It strengthens them - this is one of the strongest of accidental dignities.

Your venus is also conjunct a luminary (Sun) - that also strengthens it, because this is natal astrology. I know some people think this would be "combust" (too close to the Sun) but "combust" doesn't really apply to natal astrology (something that often is overlooked) - that's a technique used with predictive and mundane astrology. In natal astrology, it's a highly unreliable indicator, so it's best off not used at all (same thing with "under beams").

Difficult and challenging aspects to planets with accidental dignities does not overrule that dignity nor do they "ruin" planets. That both your venus and moon are part of a t-square doesn't "ruin" them either - in fact this is advantageous, since it gives your feminine planets a structure through which to express and release tension. Seeing the apex (moon) in conjunct your DCisn't going to be easy, but I don't see this as any where fatalistically detrimental.

Both your Venus and moon have harmonious aspects to them as well, so there's balancec, not domination. Your Venus in particualr is trine your Jupiter - that is a highly fortunate aspect that also strengthens your Venus although technically not an accidental dignity).

So overall, I haven't a clue what your friend's talking about. I've never heard a creditable astrologer speak of planets being "ruined". I've seen charts where planets were profoundly frustrated and overhwlemed, but I would never say "ruined." And your chart not even close to that. You probably have "issues" but it's not anything worst than most people.

That bit about your 6th house is too vague. Of course the 6th has to do with health. Duh. But if he was trying to hint as anything specific, well, he failed to make that clear.

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neptune5
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posted February 09, 2007 02:51 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thanks GN for the honesty, made me feel good, well he's e-mailing me back and forth and giving me information about my stars in conjunct to my planets, he does stars, heres his site:
http://www.angelfire.com/wizard/regulus_antares/Fixed_Star_Parans_Reports.htm

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neptune5
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posted February 09, 2007 02:53 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
and well he didn't technically say 'ruined' he said 'subverted' but i looked up the definition of subverted and it means destroyed or ruined. Unless theirs an astrological definition for subverted?

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