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SLAYER
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posted February 11, 2007 02:11 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello everybody,
I have a boomerang in my chart to cope with. I need to figure out what this means for me. Everytime i look at my chart, it catches my eye. I want to know and understand it. I feel like i have to learn to control it before it starts to control me. The problem is i dont have much information about it. I know that it is not very easy to explain these kind of aspects, and i am open to any ideas or thoughts. These ideas can make it easier for me to understand. It is like there is a huge, indestructible rock on my way and to continue walking on my true path, i have to reach full potential of my superpowers and explode it. Conversely, should i beware of it?. You know how a boomerang works right? The harder you throw it away from you, the faster and more furiously it returns!

Pluto(Scorpio) 1'14 - 4th house
Neptune(Capricorn) 1'25 - 5th/6th house
Chiron(Taurus) 29'32 - 11th house
Mars(Scorpio) 28'19 - 5th house
Anaretic degrees? Tense placements.
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Pluto(Retrograde) sextiles Neptune(Retrograde)
Chiron both inconjunct Pluto, Neptune
Chiron oppose the apex planet Mars(Stationary)

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Azalaksh
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posted February 11, 2007 03:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Slayer ~

I've got one too, I'd like to see how Rev Alice interprets the energies.....
I asked Kim Falconer about my Yod and here's what she (and others) said: http://erosastrology.proboards26.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=general&thread=1136447679&page=1#1142647109

Mine's:
Moon Pisces 8th apex
Pluto Leo 12th
Neptune Libra 3rd
and the boomerang planet Mars Virgo 1st

Zala

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wilsontc
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posted February 11, 2007 06:37 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Slayer,

Since the Boomerang is to Scorpio (transformation, also control) modifying Mars (being, also anger) focused in the 5th house (self-expression, same house as the South Node (the past) ), focusing on issues of control and/or anger don't help to channel the energy of this Boomerang, which can hold you back in life.

Instead, look for an alternative flow of energy. We find one in the Easy Opposition between Chiron and Mars to Pisces (spirituality) modifying Venus (physical, also personal values/relationships) focused in the 9th house (expansion, also religion). Focus on developing a spiritual sense of your values and of learning about the spiritual relationship of yourself to all around you. This will help to lessen the anger and the feeling of needing to BE in control. Let go and let god!

Spiritually non-controlling,

Tim

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posted February 11, 2007 07:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, Tim -- that was oracularly spectacular!! By mentioning just Rev Alice, I didn't mean to exclude you from taking a crack at an interp for my little troublemaker

Admiringly,
Zala

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wilsontc
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posted February 11, 2007 11:51 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Zala,

Thanks! I like to look at the entire chart rather than looking at a few planets. If you post your birth details, I will give you my thoughts.

Non-omnisciently,

Tim

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Rev. Alice
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posted February 12, 2007 10:47 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very nice Wilson!

I would begin by renaming these as “motivated Yods” rather than slingshots. Interestingly these two both have Mars as the “motivator.”

To me, the longtime positive transiting aspect between Neptune and Pluto hosts a general rise in consciousness. This general condition becomes the context for both Yods and is highlighted and given a personal meaning by them.

Azalaksh:

Begin with the opposition in the 2nd-8th axis–which marks the learned value system. Now, (more in the past than now) there has been a common teaching that we can have what we need, but not what we want. Notice that Lunar needs are “mastered” in the sign of Pisces. What you really need will come to you–though because of the 8th house placement you may not realize this until you reach adulthood. Meanwhile, Mars in Virgo must handle his desires on his own. In the second house, this ability is a personal asset–an inborn talent.

However, a 2nd - 8th opposition may have difficulty knowing what to keep and what to let go, so you may get things only to have them disappear. Given the evolutionary level of the sextile, you will not be able to keep anything that you do not regard as valuable and necessary–hence the loss of acquired desires.

What you need to know is that Mars/Desire is an expression of the “needs of the Spirit.” If you want a thing, it is because it is needed for your spiritual growth and/or its expression. Herein lies its value. Affirm the value of everything you want . . . if you wish to keep it.

Literally, I think this Yod is one destined or committed to becoming a channel for good and/or beauty in the world. Interestingly, that “good” may consist of “feeding the economy.” These people channel a lot of money through their lives. You should never try to pile it up in savings accounts. If you do not use it (Virgo) you will lose it.

The commonality between Leo, Libra and Pisces suggests artistry/creativity. This one may “paint on the canvass of the world.”

Slayer:

Begin with the opposition in the 5th - 11th axis of roles. Here the 5th /personal role (warrior/slayer) is at odds with the 11th/impersonal role of Chiron/Healer. Taurus is valuable and probably physical. One wonders whether you wanted to be a Doctor. Mars in Scorpio should be great for energy work, so you could channel that through your Chiron/Hands.

Looking back to the sextile, Scorpio-Capricorn confers “the right to do anything that you have the ability to do.” The whole construct suggests that your “right service” is to apply the potent energy of Scorpio Mars to some type of (channeled) healing.

Scorpio, Capricorn, Taurus suggests a very practical kind of success, lived out as a “living lesson” or mission to prove the practical value of spiritual growth.

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posted February 12, 2007 12:09 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
First of all, thank you for the responses. I have always felt that this boomerang aspect is connected to my career choice. I tell you why. My parents have never been supportive of my desires. According to them, i am someone who is very different and unconventional, and dreams the impossible all the time (they are both taurus). For me, the impossible doesnt sound impossible to me. I major in economy, but i really dont want to be an economist. It doesnt reflect my soul. I study it, because i feel like i have to make them happy and satisfy their desires first. I feel this way because they have made a huge investment for my high-education. For that reason i owe them. Meanwhile time is passing and i fear that i will be too late to prepare a background for my true goal which is acting. It is not about the fame thing. I just want to express myself to the outer world. I want to inspire people with my creative energy. I think i can heal humanity this way. 'a person who has a boomerang in the natal chart has a special gift, which takes some time to master'. If this is true, i am ready to suffer for that gift. Considering my thoughts, what would you say about the boomerang? By the way, Zala you can post your chart here for Rev. Alice and Wilsontc to interpret it.

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posted February 12, 2007 01:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Rev Alice ~

Thanks for that fascinating interp!! It's interesting that I found out a few months ago that you married several friends of a friend

Slayer ~

OK, I guess I could post my chart here -- will do it when I get home tonite.....
(Tim, you should already have me in your files -- I'd rather not publicly post my stats)

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posted February 12, 2007 09:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In the interest of Science And to contribute to the Omnisciency of Tim
Actually it seems I have two Yods, but only one Boomerang.....

Slayer ~

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Meanwhile time is passing and i fear that i will be too late to prepare a background for my true goal
If you feel indebted to your parents for financing your education, then by all means get your Economics degree. And THEN pursue what *you* want to do I think it's a crime for parents to push their children into a profession/job that *they* (the parents) think is appropriate, rather than supporting their child in what s/he wants to do

You won't be "too late".....
Zala

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wilsontc
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posted February 13, 2007 12:40 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Zala,

Thanks for posting your chart! As Rev. Alice says, the Boomerangs (yes, I see two! )in your chart emphasize personal values (Mars is focused near the 2nd house (physical, also personal values) and Venus is in the 2nd house). However, this focus on personal values doesn't "hold you back" (as could Slayer's focus on 5th house issues) since your North node is not in your 2nd house, but in your 5th house. And Venus is part of an Easy Opposition between the nodes, so Libra (personal values/relationships) energy helps you achieve North node goals. Since your North node is in the 5th house (self-expression), the challenge for you is to develop your self-expression, and your Boomerang can help you do this.

It is interesting that Slayer is a natural actress (South node (the past) in the 5th house (self-expression, also performing arts)), and needs to develop the ability to help others express themselves (North node (the future) focused in the 11th house (friends, also outer self-expression)). While you have a natural focus on helping the outer world express itself (South node focused in the 11th house) and need to develop the ability to "perform" for yourself (North node focused in the 5th house). You two could teach each other a lot!

Charting and chatting,

Tim

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Rev. Alice
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posted February 13, 2007 08:38 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Azalaksh

You said, " It's interesting that I found out a few months ago that you married several friends of a friend "

Huh? Where did that come from? It is not true.

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You are a blessing and you are blessed.
Rev. Alice
astrominister@hotmail.com www.lifeprintastrology.com

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SLAYER
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posted February 13, 2007 02:00 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Zala- My parents want my goodness, and for knowing this i dont really blame them. They dont want me to take a risk before i guarantee my future (their Taurus perspective), and this is reasonable. The only thing i have been worried about is to be not able to take a solid step for my acting career. Considering that i thought i should have a university switch. I want to apply to a college in United States next year after i take all the required tests and gather application materials. Then i will be able to take drama courses there while studying at the same time. I dont know if i will be able make it or not, but all i know is that i must succeed. 'You wont be too late' - this was very sweet of you. Thank you
Tim- I should say i am honoured that you said i was a natural actress. There is one thing which confuses me. Is 5th house South-Node the only indicator of a successful actress? According to you, what are the indications of 'acting' in astrology? and i wonder whether you see any of those indications in my chart. Zala and Rev. Alice i also would like to hear what you think about this.

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posted February 14, 2007 12:44 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Slayer,

South node in the 5th house is one indication, but there are many other "performing" indications:
- Leo (self-expresssion, also performing arts) modifying Ascendant (self)

- (strong energy) Sun (self-expression, also performing arts) conjunct (energy is combined with) Midheaven (outer world)

- T-square (strong energy) focused on Leo Ascendant

- Mars (being, also action) trine (energy goes very easily with) Leo Ascendant


The urge to perform is understandable and very easy for you. But, as I have mentioned, the humanitarian urge is there, sleeping for now, but it will come out later, when it's ready. And then you may lay down the "performing" side of you and take up the humanitarian side of you. But don't worry! There's LOTS of time for performing before you have to even THINK of that side of things! However, since there are no aspects connecting you to your North node (future goals), there is a challenge in sensing when to "make the switch" to the North node. Just keep humanitarian things in mind if later in life you decide there is more to life than acting.

Making a performance,

Tim

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SLAYER
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posted February 14, 2007 03:07 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tim - There is certainly more to life than acting, and i have already realized these things at such a young age. However, first i must destroy the obstacles i have been facing for a long time and open a gate which will lead me to acting. Until then i may have a chance to accomplish things for humanity. My passion is to fascinate masses over whole around the world. Consequently, the achivements i make in my acting career will lead me to my north node goals. I dont think i will have a challenge sensing when to make the switch to my north node, but i will keep your advice in mind no matter what happens. Thank you very much. I think you are cool.

SLAYER

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Sun-Aries
Moon-Taurus
Leo rising.

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