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eatbooks
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posted February 14, 2007 09:53 AM
 
Ive promised myself If I ever have kids, I will stop the astrology studies, and never look at my child's birth chart. What does everyone think of this? what have been your experiences with it? I get nervous about reading too much into it, and try to shape them into what I think theyre suppose to be like, so I rather be completely oblivious to it till they would get older.IP: Logged |
Gemini Nymph
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posted February 14, 2007 10:27 AM
Nah, I am not that paranoid. I know astrology's not fate, and that it's just a tool. I think I would use astrology in understanding my child, but I wouldn't live by it. As I've told parents here before - let the kid teach you who he or she is, not the chart. IP: Logged |
eatbooks
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posted February 14, 2007 10:33 AM
yeah of course, but I rather have them be shaped normally without having any preconcieved ideas how theyre suppose to be. It would be verrry hard not to look...IP: Logged |
geminstone
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posted February 14, 2007 12:07 PM
I started learning about astrology after both of my kiddos were born, but being the paranoid mom-to-be, I can only imagine what kind of hell I would've subjected myself to! 
My first born has an Aries, 8th house Sun and Mars is it's roomy. He also has a grand cross... and it appears that in synastry, my natal planets activate every one of it's points. 
I tend to keep myself from really getting into their charts, as I do end up looking into them to the point of probably over analyzing...which usually leaves me a mess. Their dad can be more neutral about things and, he probably keeps certain things that he feels I maybe would be better not told of to himself anyway
I will say though, that in understanding the overall summary, it can and has helped in exploring previously unthought of avenues of growth, for us. Of course, the fact that a chart will give to only one's potential is always first applied and I don't use anything to try to mold them... I leave it to them to know who they are and try to only give my own advice/opinions when asked.
So, I guess in answer Eatbooks, it just depends...? Lol..  I would say, do whatever you feel when the situation gives the option. ~ geminstone IP: Logged |
Atlenta
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posted February 14, 2007 12:42 PM
personally I wished my mum was into astrology so she could understand me better.I don't think it would necessarily shape the child into something he/she is not, but help them develop their qualities better. It's like when you know the basic personality of someone, especially a child whom you're dedicated to love, I believe (on the positive side) that you can help them shine the best possible way. But the negative side is when one is biased toward a particular sign or aspect, or if it clashes with the parent's chart, it can lead to manipulation of the child. but like anything else I believe, knowledge and the (ethical, positive, loving) application of it is always a better option. IP: Logged |
Mama Mia
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posted February 14, 2007 12:55 PM
I do look at my kids transits from time to time. But I never look deep into it for them or myself..Bc we are granted free will. I totally think that your upbringing can out shine anything that you have astrological.. IP: Logged |
Gemini Nymph
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posted February 14, 2007 01:03 PM
Well, manipulative people will be manipulative regardless of what tools they use to be manipulative. As a parent I would think you would be foremost inclined to double check your motives for doing anything in regards to your child's developmetna nd well-being, but I know that's is not always the case. But just because some people are fools, I do not see just cause to say using astrology is bad in this way.As long as one is careful of their own motives, I see no reason not to look for insight. I do beleive astrology yields genuine insights, and I'd take that over ignorance anyday. IP: Logged |
jane
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posted February 14, 2007 01:10 PM
GN - I wish I knew how to quote. If I did I'd be quoting what you said about letting the kid teach you who he or she is, not the chart. So well said. I feel that way about everything with astrology, like synastry and composites. I don't worry just about astrology coloring my interpretations of people and relationships, but anything that labels or structures. It's so important to stay open and flexible, yet it is difficult, so I understand where you're coming from with your concern, Eatbooks. When I have kids, I'll look at his or her chart but I am afraid that it'll subtly structure what I see and I won't clearly perceive my child. Well, not that you can ever clearly perceive anything, but it'll make it even harder to see without prejudice. IP: Logged |
eatbooks
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posted February 14, 2007 01:42 PM
I noticed on astro.com, they wont give you a reading for someone under 6 years old. Great insights everyone, thanks for responding.IP: Logged |
Jan_A
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posted February 14, 2007 03:17 PM
eatbooks
Even false orientation is better than no orientation at all! IP: Logged |
Gemini Nymph
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posted February 14, 2007 03:47 PM
Jane - truth is, many things affect our perception, and the ones we are aware of at the ones we should be least worried about! It's the ones that we are unaware of, the ones that seem so natural or so familiar we don't challenge or question - those are the infleucnes we need to be concerned about, because they have more power as the result of our blind, unconscious acceptence of them. The irony is, that astrology is one way of shedding light on those things "invisible" to us otherwise. I think astrology could be quite useful in getting a parent to think outside their own habitual ways, and teach them to really open up the potentiality of their child that lies beyond what they presently see. Of course it all comes down to how you use astrology. As I've ranted here before, astrology's a tool, not dogma. Astrology doesn't tell us neat, tidy answers - it gives us insight to potentiality. Tools like astrology help us create, discover, explore, expand, imagine, actualize. They enable us to know and be aware so we can take action and be constructive. But to use tools like astrology properly, and also to know when they are not needed, we also need wisdom and other virtues like patience and temperence. Astrology can lead us to things like wisdom and virtue, but like the proverbial horse before water, because it's only a tool, it cannot embody us with those things. We have to choose to emboy ourselves with wisdom and virtue. So even though you have a chart in front you - be it yours, a child's, or someone else's - remember that what you see there is only the first step to understanding the actual "horoscope." The chart's only a tool, one that yields insights. Many people think the work stops there, but it doesn't. The next step, the actualizing of the horoscope is when you do the discerning yourself to take those insights and *wisely* put them to their proper use. BTW, to quote you cut n' paste whatever text you want into your reply, and at the front of the text you put "[" then the word "quote" then "]", no spaces or quotation marks. At the end of the quote you put "[" then "/" then "quote" and then "]", again no spaces or quotation marks. IP: Logged |
Arnicka
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posted February 15, 2007 05:00 AM
with mine I agonized over what her moon sign would be, and mapped out the probabilities of each one in my head as the due date neared. that birth came on like nothing on earth could stop it and her chart surprised me entirely [of course id lost all sense of astrology during labor! im not that closely tied to reality!! ].so of course afterwards i looked at it with the astro knowledge i had.. and so far it seems that shes teaching me more about it than i could have ever seen on my own. my answer is there are more complexities there than you could ever imagine. plus the eye opener of actually raising a child, plus the utter exhaustion of a newborn/toddler. i cant even fathom how it would be possible to read too much into it. and regarding shaping them into what you think theyre supposed to be like: theyll let you know every single day [sometimes more than you want to hear] who they ARE and if youre not getting with that program, there aint no hope, ever. if youre into your kid theyll let you know what theyre about, plain and simple -- and if you love them as they are you wont push them to be something that theyre not. IP: Logged |
somommy66
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posted February 15, 2007 06:48 AM
Totally agree with Arnicka! Your kids will let you know who they are, and indeed, that essence is more complex than you'd have ever imagined before having them. I'm blown away every day by what my kids reveal to me. Occassionally I do think about or consult their charts, but it's just a tool. IP: Logged | |
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