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carlfloydfan
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posted February 24, 2007 09:48 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lots of sadness around this great person, my gf. Is there a way to guess when it will all end or slow down? it just seems like such a tough time. It is a lot of external causes. nothing I want to get into as it is personal and sensitive info I don't want to give out to people she does not know. But its just been tough for her these past few months. she almost feels cursed since making a temporary move. Maybe something to do with locational astrology and progressed charts? But if anyone wants to help, I can post any info they need. But I don't want to be presumptuous and post it right away. Between us, communication is strong even with everything else happening around her, but I want to comfort the other areas of her life.

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astrobee
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posted February 25, 2007 09:24 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Let's we see her natal chart.
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carlfloydfan
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posted February 25, 2007 12:51 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

http://s142.photobucket.com/albums/r99/carld22/?action=view¤t=astro_2gw_06_em_ hp.gif

Thanks. Its been a tough last few months for her, but shes got so much resilience.

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posted February 25, 2007 01:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The fixed signs have all been through the wringer the past 6 months. Every Astrological website has iterated this. The slow moving opposition between Saturn/Leo and Neptune/Aquarius transiting all fixed natal Planets is one major example. I myself am a Taurus sun. Your girl has fixed Asc, Sun, Sat, Jup, Pluto. This heavy, groundbreaking transit will ultimately lead to new directions. The fixed signs are naturally resist to change. And change, evolve, grow is not only necessary but currently demanded I'll let others be more detailed in the particulars. But the current Saturn/Neptune opposition is where I would start.

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carlfloydfan
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posted February 25, 2007 01:22 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yup, it has been quite a bit of change both positive and negative, but mostly negative as of now. some of the negative she deals with eventually after not wanting to right away. some of it, is just real unfair or just stinks but beyond her control, and something she can not just accept, for obvious reasons. because no one in that situation does.

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astrobee
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posted February 25, 2007 04:13 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Really a nice person. You should keep believe in her and induce her to develop her wonderful possibilities and talents. She must believe in herself, and she can't go back, but only ahead, to wider awareness, to more love and warmness and to more creativity in her life.

I think that there were a strong influence of the bad transit of Uranus (square) with her Moon. The exact aspect was in January and February this year, and later in October / November was retrograde and the difference from the full aspect was about 1 degree. Fortunately, that aspect passed now.
There are two other things too: Moon in Virgo is very vulnerable and she has a bad Moon - Uranus aspect in her natal chart too. It is 8* difference but I would count it as a square because it is an applicative aspect. Maybe it is why she felt the same transit more stronger then other people, especially because Moon square Uranus in natal charts gives too much sensitivity to astral influences.

Also, about Pluto in 4th house. It is a person who feels different kinds of radiations from the earth very strongly. So, maybe she have to move to an other place, maybe somewhere closer to nature. I think she extremely needs a peace, inner and outer one, not only because of her state now, but because of her whole personality.

And at the end, she is Leo Ascendant. Maybe her Moon square Uranus rebels against her ambitious Sun, a ruler of her Ascendant in 10th house? Double fixed signs are maybe often too hard on themselves. Maybe she needs a big change in her life, bigger then a moving to other place?

Predrag
Leo/Scorpio
Who was so ambitious with his Mars in Virgo in 10th house, but his Neptune in 12th house in square with Moon in Cancer taught him an extremely hard but golden lecture about a life.


There is a part of explanation about Uranus transit from cafeastrology.com:

Uranus transits square Moon
*Impatience, sudden outbursts of emotions, and the need to break free from stifling, uncomfortable situations are key issues now. During this time period you periodically become overwhelmed with the feeling that you need to make changes and make them NOW.
+An urge to change and try new things may challenge and upset your domestic scene or support system. In this case, your tendency to rebel acts at cross-purposes to those who care for you. A no-win situation that requires treading a fine line on your part.

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carlfloydfan
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posted February 25, 2007 04:52 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thank you a lot. That helped! Everything you said, when seen as a whole, makes sense. She really is a beautiful soul. But yes, that last bit, the very last bit, rings true I believe. But our relationship remains strong. I love this girl, I just want what is best for her. Maybe through astrology, I can understand her situation MORE. I do a lot for sure already. What you are explaining, through your words, seems to say what is happening in her life. I hope this is a time she overcomes material objects. I also think it is a time she values deep connections with people. Not that she has not before, but especially now, considering recent events. sorry to be vague, but she would not want me to be up front about her life with people she does not know, because she is private. So I respect that, while I am trying to seek help at the same time. she does not know I am posting about her here, so I will not name names or go in to detail, and try as hard as I can to maintain that throughout the many posts I talk about her. She is def. private!

Thank you again.

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astrobee
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posted February 27, 2007 05:10 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yes, carlfloydfan, I agree with you, I have to thank my astrology work that helps me to understand people better and to see meanings in my relations.
I think Your girl is maybe entering new phase in her life, more spiritual.

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carlfloydfan
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posted February 27, 2007 09:54 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think more spiritual yes. She is atheist (I believe that is the right word), does not believe in god, but I always try to tell her to aid her in becoming more spiritual. like, her concept of death is - you die and are dirt in the ground - nothing. maybe she is right, but it is so practical. there has got to be more. there is some essence more powerful than us, as humans too. I dunno, I just try to help her.

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astrobee
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posted February 28, 2007 10:29 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think with Moon square Uranus she must be an atheist. But she has an extremely strong inner battle. To better understand her try to find our more about that aspect.

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carlfloydfan
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posted February 28, 2007 12:26 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ahh inner battle. I am trying to delve into that inner her. maybe I have, as I have found out some things.

so about deep emotions I am guessing. maybe unconvential?

sometimes I ask her if she has any secrets, kind of in a joking way. she never really has deep secrets. I mean, it is hard to explain. I guess some people just don't have many. and she sounded very sincere.

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astrobee
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posted March 01, 2007 07:12 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think she is very sincere. The other question is whether she is aware of all what is happened in her mind and soul and that it is the influence of that aspekt.
Uranus can represent universal love and Moon her soul, love for her nation,family..
I have read about that aspect that it can influence that person can sacrifice himself in a way to help others. Even, he can in a way sacrifice other people, for a higher aims, higher good.

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carlfloydfan
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posted March 01, 2007 10:00 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
astrobee thanks thus far! anyways, I am not sure she fully knows herself, and it is kind of innocent. I am trying to help her delve into herself. But my methods are not the best yet. when you say she needs to soul search, in what regards? I asked her if there was anything deep down that she needed to share with me and she said she has shared everything deep with me. maybe that leo asc really does make her external? Because I trust her for sure but LOVE SECRETS (I am a scorpio). She does LOVE her family, her mom..her dad OF COURSE, even family members who were not that close, she still feels for. she is so emotional and some people who look at her chart do not see that, but she is, something in there makes her so watery despite the fact that there are not many water placements in her chart. now AS I SPEAK she is suffering another thing beyond her control, another natural thing. she feels so much, I love her for it.

I truly feel she is a good person. she had a moment where she made some mistakes and she actually lingers on any mistake she makes, especially the big one she made a few years back. she is ashamed of being anything but great in some situations. even ashamed of fits she had when she was 10. she is a beautiful soul but a soul that needs to be reminded that perfection is impossible. not to nit pick so much (something with the moon?) again, so sincere and almost naive in her strive for perfection. It is cute, but she shouldn't be hard on herself.

Hopefully these tough times STOP, cause they cont. a little even now!

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astrobee
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posted March 03, 2007 05:57 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I consider Leo Sun sign better then Leo Ascendant sign. Leo as Ascendant is very brave but too extroverted. She has her ruler Sun in 10th house (very ambitious, proud) but in bad aspect with Jupiter (square) that I see completelly opposite to the meaning of Sun in 10th house and that makes her contraverse.

She can't accept civil ethical standards and conventions.

It seems she is afraid she will lose her ego and her personal power if she accepts something form outer world?

I think she needs soul search because I see that as extremely important to her to learn to accept compassion and sympathy in herself, as HER hidden, unrevealed features. She must find it!

There is an interesting point of view - ego should be made stronger firstly and then it should be left (deserted). It is quite normal because one can't leave his ego (as a sign of real and higher maturity) before his ego is not enough developed. I understand leaving ego as understanding that ego doesn't represent our whole being. So, she has to develope her nice talents.

About your communication with her - you can't be so succesful by words - rather try by acts, withuot words. It can be a learning process for you too. As a Scorpio, you are very strong and have a strenth and energy that maybe can help her.
Go to countryside with her, somewhere close to pure nature... Give her more chances to have a peace, to feel nature, to relax...

Similar as you wrote, I think it is dificult for her to understand herself deeper. She should have more inner peace that she can start soul search - without that any result is wrong. And you and she have to understand that we can not understand ourselves through our dreams, our thoghts, but through our relations to others!! (A Chinese saying is that water is a mirror for a bull but other people are a mirror for a man)

About her 7th house (of marriage) she has Jupiter there, a nice planet that can bring a wise, honest and good partner that can be her teacher too. But her Jupiter is in bad aspect with her ruler, Sun! Also, ruler of her 7th house, Uranus is in 5th house (marriage based on sincere love) but is in bad aspect with her Moon. On the other side, Uranus is in good aspect with Mercury, that can tell about her partner, as very clever and creative person. Also, Jupiter in 7th house has two nice sextiles, with Uranus (good changes, accepting a risk) and with Mercury (nice intelect). So, she hasn't got a stable chart regarding marriage.

Yes, bad Uranus transit has passed, but you have to know, she has that bad aspect in her natal chart, so, it is her temptation during her life.
In fact, she has to understand that there is nothing to be worried in this world, nothing to fight with, no reason to be rebelious against anything - instead of all that my opinion is one should make his efforts to acheive his peace, to free its creativity and express his/her talents, to love people, to help people. Life is too short...

Just to add: now she has a transit of Chiron over her Descendant and later will have over her Jupiter in 7th house - I am not sure how that could be interpreted, but think it could have good meanings.

Please think about my idea for recommended books for her: Jiddu Krishnamurty?

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InLoveWithLife
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posted March 03, 2007 06:16 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
wow, so she had saturn, neptune AND uranus transits going on !!

when saturn went thru my first house, it was a very difficult time for me, esp bcoz it also opposed my sun and then later was conj my NN. i see sth similar happening here. saturn was first conj her asc, then sq her moon, and then sq her NN. i personally feel saturn transits r real tough. and she has neptune and uranus too.

hope this gets over soon

ILWL

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carlfloydfan
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posted March 04, 2007 05:01 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks again astrobee. I agree again, with a bulk of that.

you say

"too extroverted"

which can be true in certian circumstances to an extent, but she is largely quite shy. I am sure you have seen those shy leo types. She is not as extrovert as some leos can be.


She seems to be learning to let go of her ego. She has always been willing to sacrifice self for others since I have known her and loves to be helpful. I think with those negative traits, they may have described her a while ago, before I knew her, but I see a person who looks like she has come a long way. I know she has made mistakes in the past, but I think she has learned quickly. From what she has told me about her history, a lot, she had made many signifigant steps.

I would do things for her, but remember, she is thousands of miles away right now. All I can do is talk and sometimes send her things of meaning. Her next step is to detach from material things. She has a lot. And material to her, more and more, is what has personal meaning to her not so much money. also, not to feel sorry for herself. to be sad, sure, but not woe is me, though it has been a very TOUGH time. And, she is very expressive, private, but very emotional. haha "she always says "you know how I am, I am an emotional girl

she has done well with life lessons, she just needs to not stress as much. her mom worries about it and asks me sometimes about that, when I was visiting.

and some transits connecting with personal planets can make her a little to nit picky. I think it almost hurts her feelings if things aren't in their place. she likes the home to look nice.

she doesn't seem like the marriage type. even with a true love, like me, haha, she doesn't need marriage to prove anything, if that makes sense, since its just a legal thing. you can still be "married" without the official thing. i don't know if that makes sense the way I say it but I have felt that way. its just a formality and doesn't effect the love unless you make it that way.

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astrobee
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posted March 05, 2007 03:04 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am really impressed with your love to her.
I wrote "too extroverted" but not for her personally but generally for Leo Ascendant.
I know shy Leos, of course, I am one of them too.
It is very difficult to explain someone's character precisely, so I often try to find the opposites in that person's chart.

Yes, your words confirm that there is not a way back to her (neither for anyone), learning is behind and in front of her. There is a Chinese saying: only a tiger can change himself (only strong person can made a change, not weak one).
And also, what you wrote that you think she is not a marriage type explains in the clearest way what I wrote about her aspects regarding marriage.
This Autumn she will have Saturn transit conjunction natal Moon. Some time ago, I considered that aspect only as a bad one. But in fact, maybe it can help her to better understand herself and I hope it will have other good meanings too.
I wish you both to be happy!

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carlfloydfan
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posted March 08, 2007 01:23 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thanks for your help astrobee! she continues with the misluck. now she is sick..again...with what may be the flu..again. just insult to injury I would say. Damn. I really do think it is from the stress and what else has happened. But I think there is a correlation between stress and getting sick (aka immune system).

She drops subtle hints about marriage type things I should say. Never anything up front. However, it is something neither of us wants to or need to concentrate on quite yet.

thanks again.

hopefully the transits look good for her and luck increases.

if anyone sees this, how is late march into April for general life? health, fortunate (luck), ect?

her solar return for april 30?

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astrobee
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posted March 11, 2007 06:07 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
On April 30th this year she has Venus trine Neptune that is nice for your relationship. Next year, 2008, she has on April 30th Venus trine Saturn and Venus trine Pluto, that is nice too, and can lead to marriage.
In late March this year, she will have Venus transiting her Sun that is very good for everything. In the middle of March she has Mars transiting Jupiter in 7th house, that is very good for your relationship, as well as Mars' transiting 7th house - maybe you will meet then.
This year, she has a Jupiter transiting (conjunction) her Uranus in 5th house, it moves direct and retrograde, so its influence is not short time. That can be very good for your relationship and as I see it can bring some important changes too. It is interesting, in 2005 she had Neptune transit over her Jupiter in 7th house - maybe you appeared in her life then?
Are you a Pisces Ascendant? In 2012 she will have strong Uranus transit over her Venus and later, Mercury that will bring big changes, but I can't predict what kind of changes, and also, it will depend of previous events.

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carlfloydfan
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posted March 11, 2007 12:43 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am a cap asc.

I met her (early) feb. 2006. We became very close towards the end of March and just plain hit it off in April increasing as the days went on until that one night on April 30th her b day.

around 2005 was kind of a rough time for her. She was in France, so I did not know she existed at this point in my life, haha.

we got into a little mini heated discussuion earlier this week..not really an argument even. But I really wanted her to see my point of view so I got heated. she sent me an apology in an email though which was sweet. she really comes through like that, it is amazing. the second I am the least bit annoyed/doubtful, even if I don't state it, she just has that magic to make everything better, just naturally. I don't know how she does it. she is good at self analysis I think is part of it, for both positive and negative traits.

she never likes to say we were in an argument by the way. the few times I said "what an argument we had" or something like that shes like IT WASN'T AN ARGUMENT!! haha. debate, disagreement about an issue, okay hun, haha. not an argument. Her idea of an argument is different than mine. since we have never raised voices, we have not had one. I understand that. I am just more liberal in the usuage of the word I guess

I have a feeling this march will be magical. I am planning many romantic things to do when she comes, breakfast in bed. a rose on my bed when she first arrives (I will hint for her to check my room and maybe make a scavenger hunt around the apartment to give her the hint that this will always be her home too), picnic on the green across from my apartment. I can't wait. I have a feeling things will go well and I had a feeling transits would also happen to be good.

thanks again!

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astrobee
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posted March 13, 2007 07:33 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You are really happy to be with that girl, and I wish you to keep deepening your relationship that will halp you both to develope your personalities.
Yes, it is interesting how some girls have excellent attitudes about "not an argument", we men are different but it is ok.
Your ideas about how you plan to surprise her are wonderful. Spend more time in nature with her.
I wish you wonderful days!
Cheers!

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carlfloydfan
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posted March 14, 2007 07:20 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thanks for the kind words

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