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Passionate Pisces022586
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posted March 07, 2007 09:23 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Everytime I read something about synastry and composites. There is so much hype and importance put on having an aspect between these two (the sun and moon). Does anyone have any ideas of why this could be. DO you think its needed to have a successful relationship, and does it councel out some of the more harshful aspects?
When reading about this aspects its almost as if its THE most important aspect even more important than SATURN.
Is there always a connection and bond between the two even after the relationship ends?

any info would be appreciated, I'm very interested in this particular aspect.

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CrankyCap
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posted March 07, 2007 09:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CrankyCap     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmmmm...I have some of my own theories on this, but I'll keep the response short. My experience with it was overwhelming - too much so. I felt too enraptured in the other person, to the point where I felt I almost lost my identity a little. I felt too exposed and too vulnerable...I couldn't use any of my defenses...felt like he could read my mind no matter how I acted. Of course, in my case the sign was Pisces (my moon, his sun). Maybe with the more "grounded" signs it wouldn't be so intense...

And no, I definitely don't think you need this apsect for a relationship to be successful. I do however, think that if you DO have this aspect, you should have some challenging ones as well, to insure that you are not completely swept away, and so that you do not become complacent.

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Dulce Luna
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posted March 07, 2007 09:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I actually have the trine with my bf and I like it!

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CrankyCap
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posted March 07, 2007 09:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CrankyCap     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dulce - The trine is nice too. In some ways I think it's better. The energies mesh very well, but they're still slightly "different." It's not quite as frighteningly intense and overwhelmingly powerful.

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carlfloydfan
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posted March 07, 2007 09:53 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
my sun is sextile my gfs moon with 5'17 orb. her sun and my moon make no aspect. But I think it is good for some of the other negative aspects that are in our chart. and good for our sun opp. sun which is 4'25 orb.

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teaologist
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posted March 07, 2007 10:26 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My best friend and I have a Sun/Moon double whammy sign interchange (I'm a Taurus, she's a Leo). Only one actual conjunction though (my Sun, her Moon) with a 1 deg orb. Yeah, it's weird. Many ppl see me as a secretive, blank-faced person, but she can read my thoughts like they are subtitled right below my face.

In the composite, we have a Sun/Moon conjunction, which indicates that we feel better functioning as a unit than separately (nicer way of saying co-dependency/symbiosis, hee). Even when we try to get off the same freakin psychic wavelength... our minds just naturally flow in the same direction. If you've ever watched Will and Grace play Charades, our relationship is kind of like that---finishing each other's sentences without much effort.

I cherish the fact that the contact fosters a sense of comfort and familiarity, but indeed, sometimes the easy reading can be a little scary.

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Venus De Milo
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posted March 08, 2007 03:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venus De Milo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I had the sextile with my Moon and my ex-husband's Sun, it was exact... you know we had so many ups and downs and horrible, terrible fights and he was verbally and mentally abusive... but I could never say I don't love him, I always will no matter what. We have an enduring friendship and still consider each other family...

I also have the conjunction with my best friend. She's a Scorpio with an Aqua Moon with that's right on my Sun/Mars conjunction. I could forgive her anything. There is so much acceptance there...

I think it's an unconditional love aspect, in many ways.

I have the sextile with that other Pisces, although at a 2 degree orb... so much for unconditional love. He's someone I have my emotional dukes up around... and a giant barricade around my heart. I don't even trust him to be my friend. I couldn't take another betrayal, even on a friendship level.

Maybe it's because it's slightly out of orb, lol

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Dulce Luna
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posted March 08, 2007 07:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Dulce - The trine is nice too. In some ways I think it's better. The energies mesh very well, but they're still slightly "different." It's not quite as frighteningly intense and overwhelmingly powerful.


Yes, its alot more comforatble when I think about it. Its like I "like" him too....as opposed to just plain love/hate. And he's the pisces moon trining my sun.

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posted March 08, 2007 10:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
PPisces: I'm glad you brought up the Great Deal Breaker, i.e. Saturn. A time ago when Glaucus held sway here at LL, he mentioned Saturn quite a lot. And it would seem that even in the cozyest of relationships as time goes on the 'unconditionality' of Sun/Moon, Moon/Moon, and Venus/Moon aspects can be eroded like sand on a beach when difficult Saturn aspects rear their little heads through transit. Then you find out just how much glue the bond has. Saturn, and sometimes Uranus (depending on the native) can be the deal breaker.

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teaologist
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posted March 08, 2007 10:26 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Venus,

I can relate to this:

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we had so many ups and downs and horrible, terrible fights and he was verbally and mentally abusive... but I could never say I don't love him, I always will no matter what. We have an enduring friendship and still consider each other family...

My ex's Scorp Moon opposes my Taurus Sun (0.15 orb). My Leo Moon trines his Pisces Sun (wider 6 orb). We had a lot of that turbulent stuff going on too, but our Saturns are also conjunct each other's Moons =X. It's hard to just say 'peace out' and not feel like you're abandoning blood. Tough bond to break, but maybe things will change, who knows...

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comica23
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posted March 08, 2007 11:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for comica23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I guess that Sun/Moon helps 2 people to be able to understand well each other's self-expression and emotions. It's certainly one of the best aspects in synastry. ^_^

But honestly, no matter how compatible a relationship can be, it can't resist to immaturity, doubts and other mistakes; just as no matter how harsh a relationship can be, it can be saved with some devotion, maturity and comprehension. ^_^

I've seen a relationship with very good aspects, with the Sun/Moon conjunctions that fell apart due to immaturity. In my case, I had a so-so synastry with my bf (with so few personal planets aspects T_T and his Sun quincuncx my Moon lol), but we really love each other and feel nice with each other still (maybe it's my stellium trining his Jupiter and Neptune and some other nice small aspects and also a better composite?). ^_^ I had nicer synastries with some people that had their Moon in the same sign of my Aries Sun, and it did feel very special, but things didn't go well thought..

Saturn can be very annoying as it might limit the other person's personal planets, but it can also give some security and sense of care. It also can teach us something. but it depends on how each person relates to what it affects, and how it is aspected lol.

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girlloveboy
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posted March 08, 2007 04:00 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I experienced with a boy the sun(his) moon(mine) conjunction. We didnt even met personally (just through the net) but my feelings were so intense - and unfortunately still very intense, though i didnt heard about him for 4 months...
We became friends just after one email and it was a nice friendship until i had the transit Jupiter conjunct my natal pluto, 'cause at this point i suddenly fell in love with him...
Ive never experienced such deep feelings like that before, its almost frightening.
I felt and still feel he's my other half,my soulmate and feel like sth missing from me incredibly much since i didnt heard about him.
Im sure we have known each other in our previous lives (my south node conjunct his sun and mercury and there are some pluto aspects aswell)
I cant get over him, and im starting to think sth wrong with me, im crazy or sth like that

So i think its really a nice and important aspect but if the two break up or lost each other in any way, it can be incredibly painful...

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Azalaksh
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posted March 08, 2007 06:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Node ~
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aspects can be eroded like sand on a beach when difficult Saturn aspects rear their little heads through transit. Then you find out just how much glue the bond has.
I think Saturn can be the glue, too

Zala

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Venus De Milo
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posted March 08, 2007 08:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venus De Milo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Teaologist!

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It's hard to just say 'peace out' and not feel like you're abandoning blood.

Exactly! Like with my best friend... we have known each other since the 7th grade. We've always had our little squabbles, but literally, the next day she could call me or I would call her and we would be like "what are you doing?" and it would be like nothing happened! But about 2 years ago, we had a fight over money. She bailed on a holiday at the last minute (I was out of pocket) and we didn't talk for a year. I was so upset over it. My ex-husband one day said one of her jokes and I BUSTED UP in raucous laughter. I forgot where that saying came from and why I didn't say that saying anymore and when I realized a minute later that it was something she and I used to say to each other, I just started bawling crying because I missed her so much.

Anyway, we're talking again now and we both missed each other so much. We didn't talk for a year. It bothered me a lot.

But I don't think most friendships could survive that. But to me, I know she doesn't have the money and even though I think it's lame, I understand SORT OF, why she bailed on the holiday.. and the friendship is worth more to me than $300. So yeah.

Zala, I agree with you about Saturn. You need Saturn. Saturn is the glue. I'd rather have the harshest Saturn aspects in Synastry than none at all.

Don't be afraid of Saturn, if you guys are dedicated to each other and it was meant to be, you can overcome any Saturn aspect. Look at Sophia Loren and Carlo Ponti... I believe they have a harsh Saturn-Mars aspect in synastry. They had one of the most enduring marriages in Hollywood (I believe he passed recently).

My ex-husband and I had Saturn opposed his Sun and Venus and he had his Saturn/Jupiter conjunction sitting exactly on my Ascendant.

I believe GWB's Saturn sits right on Laura Bush's ASC too... lol... poor lady! hahah.

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