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Mama Mia
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posted March 08, 2007 12:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mama Mia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What makes a person say they are going to do something and never keep their word. I mean and then act like its no big deal when a person gets upset bc they did not keep their word. Outside of being a effing idiot, where in their charts something may indicate that a person it like this..

Anyone here know anyone else like that, I mean just does it everytime, but can be or seem so sincere when mentioning it..A flaky ass I guess..

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AgeofAquarius
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posted March 08, 2007 12:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AgeofAquarius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Don't you just HATE that?!? And yes I wrote the "H" word. That's why I tell people plain ol' "I can't" or "No". I also find myself doing everything even if I'm overworked just for that reason. It ****** me off.

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Mama Mia
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posted March 08, 2007 01:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mama Mia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No not like you are asking them to do something they were the one's to mention the nice gesture and then just totally flake out and not even bother to mention it unless you do..

Is it just me,but what kind of person does. I can see if its someone that you don't know well then ok, but whats up when its someone that you have been knowing and deems you as a good friend..PLease friends don't do friends like that..To hell with that kind of friend..

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shirty
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posted March 08, 2007 01:25 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
People who think words mean a lot, superficial people, etc.

I know a few who drive me up the wall with that.. it's so easy to say a few words to make someone feel good or smooth over a situation or conversation.. but to actually DO something means so much more.

What's the person's chart like?

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Mama Mia
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posted March 08, 2007 01:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mama Mia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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People who think words mean a lot, superficial people, etc.

There you hit it on the head..I can see this person being superficial all the way..

Thanks Shirty that helped to explain alot of it..

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katipo
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posted March 08, 2007 01:57 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm notorious for this thing, I often over-extend myself, and fail to keep deadlines and appointments etc, I have said "yes I can do that" and not being able to perform as expected. It's something I'm working on, I find it difficult to say "no I can't" it's not that easy for some of us.

I figure it's either Jupiter in Leo house 5, or aries NN, in my chart??!!...not sure. Or something else altogether!

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Mama Mia
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posted March 08, 2007 02:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mama Mia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok..I understand the thing about you over-extending yourself..But when you realize that you have done that do you call up the person you agreed to do something for/with and explain that to them or do you just blow it off and say oh well.Thats what I am talking about..

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posted March 08, 2007 02:08 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK, I gotcha, yes I would/do call and let the other know what's happening my end! I couldnt' leave someone hanging. My other thought is that the person is just plain inconsiderate (which I'm defintely not) I'm just unreliable (not that I'm totally proud of that)

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Passionate Pisces022586
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posted March 08, 2007 02:13 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Mama Mia,

This always happens to me. People always sell me a dream so to speak. I have noticed people may tell me they are going to treat me with so and so and then they turn it around the last minute and I become the one that takes action.

I often find myself telling people im going to do things for them; however, i try my very best to do it even if it means putting them ahead of me.(even if im hurt deeply) I often put others need above my own and this always causes me to come in last so to speak.

I think this is because it is so easy to place myself in their shoes for I know exactly how it feels.


I think placements of those with this is maybe

those who lack water and earth for
water is sensitive and dont want to hurt
earth doesn't want to look unreliable

I have had libra or strong libra influence do this to me (I wonder why)? I remember reading thar Pisces is a service sign to Libra if I remember correctly.

anyway thats my take on it.

P.S. I have learn't the hard way that one MUST say no too such people!!!

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Ascendent Capricorn
Moon Virgo 8th house
Sun Pisces 1st house
Venus Pisces 2nd house
Mercury Pisces 2nd house
Jupiter Pisces 1st house
Mars Sagittarius 11th
Uranus Sagittarius 11th
Saturn Sagittarius 10th
Neptune Capricorn 12th
PlutoConjunctMC Scorpio

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katipo
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posted March 08, 2007 02:16 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe Mars aspects? I have Mars in flaky Gemini, so I start with a 'hiss & a roar' however my energy can dissipate, unless I'm stimulated mentally, and/or very intensely focused.

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Mama Mia
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posted March 08, 2007 02:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mama Mia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey PP: this person is Air and Fire no water and very little earth especially the inner planet. I keep my word all the time and I am very consistent on my actions, if I cannot keep my word I promise you, you will be the first to know and you will not have to call me to wonder..Ppl make me sick with that..

And yes Katipo this person is very inconsiderate and I did nto hold back on telling that person so..Infact I let em have it..

This person has Mars in Taurus in the 6H..Thats a stable aspect. I believe its the Aries Moon and Venus maybe..

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unless I'm stimulated mentally, and/or very intensely focused.

Nope don't even see that as a reason to flake someone that you say is your friend..

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posted March 08, 2007 03:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
....because they are highly Aquarian!!!!

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posted March 08, 2007 03:19 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moon square/opposite mercury can give that tendency.

Mercury aspecting neptune harshly...

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shirty
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posted March 08, 2007 03:44 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No problem Mama Mia!

What are the person's placements? I'm really curious!

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Mama Mia
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posted March 08, 2007 03:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mama Mia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bet its that Mercury Square Neptune.to help give it that boost..

Major aspects
Sun Conjunction Mercury 0°47
Sun Sextile Mars 6°22
Sun Sextile Jupiter 3°22
Sun Square Saturn 1°11
Sun Square Neptune 6°29
Sun Quincunx Pluto 2°50
Moon Conjunction Venus 3°00
Moon Opposition Uranus 5°44
Moon Trine Neptune 7°07
Mercury Sextile Mars 5°35
Mercury Sextile Jupiter 2°35
Mercury Square Saturn 0°24
Mercury Square Neptune 5°41
Mercury Quincunx Pluto 2°03
Venus Trine Neptune 4°07
Mars Trine Jupiter 3°00
Mars Quincunx Neptune 0°06
Jupiter Quincunx Saturn 2°11
Jupiter Square Pluto 0°32
Saturn Opposition Neptune 5°17
Saturn Trine Pluto 1°39
Neptune Sextile Pluto 3°38
Numbers indicate orb (deviation from the exact aspect angle).

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shirty
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posted March 08, 2007 04:03 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well I meant signs and houses more than aspects between the planets.

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posted March 08, 2007 04:04 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My prognosis of this would be a Retrograde Mercury - they will say say say and when the time comes, nothing happens. This has been my own experience with situtaions like that.

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Mama Mia
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posted March 08, 2007 04:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mama Mia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
InnerD: Nope can't go for that one bc I have Mercury Retro and I don't do that at all..

Planetary positionsplanet sign degree motion
Sun Aquarius 28°41'19 in house 4 direct
Moon Aries 12°17'05 in house 5 direct
Mercury Aquarius 29°28'34 in house 4 direct
Venus Aries 9°17'06 in house 5 direct
Mars Taurus 5°03'40 in house 6 direct
Jupiter Capricorn 2°03'15 in house 2 direct
Saturn Taurus 29°52'39 in house 7 direct
Uranus Libra 18°01'02 in house 11 retrograde
Neptune Sagittarius 5°09'55 in house 1 direct
Pluto Libra 1°31'35 in house 11 retrograde
True Node Aquarius 5°04'18 in house 3

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AgeofAquarius
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posted March 08, 2007 04:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AgeofAquarius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
MamaMia. I understand now. I think it’s the Aries Moon. B/c I recently had someone with the similar placements flake on me. W were suppose to have dinner and catch up (For my birthday of all things) and she didn't call or ANYTHING. The next day she sent an "I'm sorry" text. Needless to say I kicked her to the curb. Only b/c I have gone over and beyond my duties as a friend and I figured I wasn't deserving of a call then she wasn't deserving of a friendship. Oh, that wasn't the 1st time either. It was the 3rd.

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LILYGIRL
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posted March 08, 2007 05:00 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
".... I think it’s the Aries Moon..."


...... Well having an Aries Moon I beg to differ. In my million years on this planet I consider myself unusually reliable, consistently the person who people call upon and am never late or failing in my promises....

I think it would be foolhardy to pick one aspect and say yeah that's it. It is undoubtedly a combination of aspects and afflicitons going on with him. I only know 2 people who are like that. One is my brother who has a Taurus stellium with Pisces Moon. And my girlfirend who has a Leo stellium with a bunch of Cancer stuff. Yet my husband has a Leo stellium and is rock solid set a clock to dependable about promises, people and appointment...yet he does have saturn on his Ascendant!!! And I have Saturn trine taurus venus.

I would not rely upon the "Moon" or "Mars" for this one per se. Saturn is about responsibility and maturity. Earth signs can be very solid but also stubborn so it does not necessarily equate to reliable. My Taurus brother is very loyal but if you push him too hard he will never do what he says he is going to do... Water signs do have feelings but can get overwhelmed and utterly elect to avoid any conflict thereby promising everything and fulfilling very little. Air signs can be forgetful and fire signs can speak too soon...so you get what I am saying here.

The issues are varied for Neptune and mercury aspects can itself bring up "lying" which is a shade of saying one thing and doing another...

PS: I have also seen Neptune on the Ascendant create all sorts of havoc with people's ability to follow through!

The keys here seem to be Maturity + Honesty + Initiative + Compassion for Others = RELIABILITY

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Mama Mia
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posted March 08, 2007 05:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mama Mia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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The keys here seem to be Maturity + Honesty + Initiative + Compassion for Others = RELIABILTY - minus all that = messed up person..

Thaks LilyG...

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