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cat71
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posted March 25, 2007 10:22 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Attempt to understand Karma in astrology and past life links…

There's alot of information re astrological synastry and karma/past lives - chiron, pluto, saturn, north nodes links etc.
Is there a way to define who in a relationship (not necessarily a 'love' relationship) owes the karmic debt to the other person? For example if two charts link in a way that indicate a shared past life or karmic connection, can these same indicators show who owed the debt to who and will this affect the power balance of the relationship?

E.g A North Node conjunct B’s Venus
B North Node sextile A’s Venus
A Saturn conjunct B’s South Node
A Sun conjunct B’s Pluto

There are others, but could anyone add some meaning to these aspects for me or just some general information regarding past lives/karma would be appreciated too

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cat71
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posted March 25, 2007 07:44 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*bump*

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pearlized
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posted March 26, 2007 04:07 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
in Lindas Relationship Signs it says the sun should try to compromise with pluto b/c it will be less stressful that way. I will paraphase what else she says:
relationship is deeply karmic and it is not the first time you have meet.
-you may sense the past lifes during eye contact, eyes are the window of the soul and the soul knows, the soul remembers
-the relationship has the potential to build or destroy

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posted March 26, 2007 04:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You can scan through this thread:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/011446.html

The Nodes are taken into account in these synastry readings.

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cat71
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posted March 26, 2007 05:58 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just wanted to say thanx for ur replies and links

Does anyone have any links for chiron and vertex or can suggest books perhaps

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venusdeindia
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posted March 26, 2007 11:44 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi cat
i hav been freaking myself out, in the last 3 months studying past life links among charts.
i use natal-draconic and draco -draco for this purpose. the article below gives a good idea bout draco charts. ASTROWIN has option for draco charts, u can download it for free or try this link http://ephemeral.info/eph/
my personal insights-
the links we dont often see in natal r often seen in draco, if u find significant links in draco it means u had karmic links to them-

my dad's draconic saturn conjuncts my natal pisces ascendent to the exact degree!at 16 pisces
it also conjuncts my draconic sun, moon in pisces!
we have no other saturn links in the natal.but the above aspects describe our relationship in the best possble way.i experience him as someone who freezes me to the core(unintentionally).and the rest u can deduce

i know a couple who r totally in love , its a strange love story a-la GOOBERZ , i checked their charts, guess what
her natal venus conjunt his draco pluto!!
his draco venus conjunct her natal pluto!!!

i spent the next 10 minutes counting stars.

i am 100% positive they r twinsouls but there r no natal venus- pluto aspects, that makes the draco aspects interesting.
the article below should help
also try this link, i had posted some more on draco
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/013104.html


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venusdeindia
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posted March 26, 2007 11:46 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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THE DRACONIC CHART
Soul Mates and Blood Links
by Pamela Rowe, LPMAFA, FMFAA

How many times as astrologers, have we counselled clients reliving similar disastrous relationships to those experienced in their formative years -- settling for familiarity, rather than initiating a reprogramming experience? Positive and negative astrological links shared with relatives are projected into adult relationships in a repetitious manner. This same theme of familiarity can apply to happy, productive relationships. Is fate after all, stronger than free will?

When the likely astrological links between two people are not found in the natal, progressed or directed charts, we look further afield. The Draconic chart provides pivotal information regarding the soul's purpose. The Draconic chart in relation to parent and child and between siblings, has been a source of fascination to me for years. Members of the Australian Academy of Astrology & Cosmobiology Research Group have also researched the Draconic chart as a key topic. We have concluded that the Draconic chart can be categorised as karmic, spiritual and unconscious, with possible connections to reincarnation. It pinpoints those we draw close to us in our lifetimes, to resolve unconscious issues , which in turn connects to our state of physical and emotional health. It speaks less of free will than the basic natal chart.

Through our Draconic chart we can discover how others are acutely, albeit subconsciously, aware of our soul's purpose and act accordingly -- opening life's doors and sometimes slamming them in our face. It traces where we came from (test it with parents and grandparent's charts) and where we are going (compare it with the charts of your children and soul mates). Links will be found by comparing Natal and Draconic charts, plus Draconic and Draconic. Draconic charts are also quite sensitve to transits, so compare the Draconic chart with transits of important events.

The Draconic chart highlights the importance of the 0-degrees Aries point. The distance between the natal Northern Moon Nodes or Dragon's Head and 0-degrees Aries is the adjustment increment used to convert the natal chart to its Draconic counterpart. The natal North Moon Node (ascending node) becomes 0-degrees Aries of the Draconic chart, or 'draconic equinox' and other planets and points are adjusted accordingly. English astrologer Pamela Crane is well known for her work on Draconic astrology. Pamela uses the True Moon Nodes in preference to the Mean Moon Nodes in her calculations. The difference in the resultant Draconic charts is small, but enough for me to continue to research both. In some cases the Draconic Mean Moon Node chart produces tighter, more relevant aspects.

The Draconic chart may have been overlooked because natal house placements and planetary aspects remain unaltered -- however, the zodiacal degrees can be strikingly different.

The Northern Moon Nodes in the charts of relatives and soul mates is as potentially variable as its distance from 0-degrees Aries. When adjustments are made for the Draconic chart you may be surprised at the new zodiacal links which did not exist in the natal charts -- new clues as to life's learning curve through these important people. In the case of those born with the Northern Moon Nodes at 0-degrees Aries, the natal chart is also the Draconic chart -- suggesting a person directly in touch with their soul's purpose. I would be most interested in the spiritual journey of any reader who has the Northern Moon Nodes at 0-degrees Aries.

Solar Fire and Winstar Plus software provide ready calculation of the Draconic chart. For those without this facility, the simplest and most accurate method is to convert all natal cusps and planets into their absolute zodiac positions (0-Aries=0°, 0 Taurus=30°, etc) and add the increment (distance between the natal true moon nodes and 0-degrees Aries) to each position. If answer over 360°, deduct 360

There are many more draconic links in this family tree. These few mainly involve the personal points of Natal and Draconic Ascendant, Midheaven, Sun and Moon.

THE DRACONIC ASCENDANT
The natal Ascendant describes how others perceive us in a physical sense, the silent message we project through our physical image. THE DRACONIC ASCENDANT is our intuitive identity, certain hereditary factors and the unique qualities we pass on through reproduction and spiritual teaching. For further information consider the decanate of the Draconic Ascendant (eg 28°26' Libra on the Draconic Ascendant is in its 3rd decan, incorporating a Gemini/Mercury influence to the Libran energies).

THE DRACONIC MIDHEAVEN
The natal Midheaven depicts our ego expression, career, worldy status, parent figures and mentors. The Draconic Midheaven speaks more of super-consciousness, the soul's divine quest, vocation as distinct from occupation.

Astrologers already familiar with house meanings, aspects and primarily the interpretation of their own natal chart, will liken the experience of interpreting their Draconic chart to that of bumping into an old friend. This is probably due to the emergence in the Draconic chart of astrological degrees synonymous with old friends, foes and soul mates.

For Cosmobiologists the planetary structure patterns and midpoint trees of the draconic chart remain the same (with the exception of Moon Nodes involvement). However the patterns of the Draconic chart fall in different sections of the 90-degree dial, providing additional sensitive time frames, especially when compared to the directions, progressions and transits. The individual comparison between natal and draconic structure patterns also interesting.

Even by sticking to basics and comparing the zodiacal degrees between the draconic/draconic and draconic/natal charts of different individuals, the remarkable links formed for respective life journeys cannot be overlooked. Because our spiritual development requires us to meet the challenge of relationships rather than evade them, the Draconic chart provides new information as to who we are likely to attract in order to make the progress we spiritually crave.

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Maire31
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posted March 26, 2007 10:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Maire31     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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