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neptune5
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posted March 26, 2007 09:12 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i have some 'sexy' asteroids in my 2nd house, would being an escort be a lucrative way to bring in extra cash?

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LeoPisCan
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posted March 26, 2007 09:33 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The 2nd house deals with money, but it also deals with self worth.

Having sexual planets or asteroids located there may mean that you use your appearance, sex appeal, or charm as part of your job or, more likely, it means that your self worth may be affected by your appearance, sex appeal, or charm.

I'be known a lot of people who were/are prostitutes(you can say escorts if you want, its the same thing), strippers and adult film actors. They were all seriously damaged by the experience. I've never met one who would encourage another woman to enter that type of business. A lot of them talk a good game about being sexually uninhibited, open, modern, whatever euphamism you want to use but when you get them alone and talk to them honestly they all had serious issues either before they got into the business or as a result of.

In addition to being emotionally and psychologically dangerous, sex work is also physically dangerous. Woman in the sex industry are more likely (VERY LIKELY, in my experience) to be raped or attacked.

I hate to be all preachy, but this subject really gets me upset. I know you asked about the astrological aspect, and not my own experience or opinion, but seriously, it's not a job I would encourage anyone to even consider.

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Neon Artemis
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posted March 26, 2007 10:19 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LeoPisCan,

I can back you up on that. I used to be a stripper. I was looking for a medium to express my sexuality and interest in dance - and I quickly found out it was really bad for the soul and not about dancing at all. Lots of illusions and dark energy. REally easy to get caught up on drugs and enter into porn if you're not careful. I had a good head on my shoulders and thought I could take the job, but it wore me down to a point where I dreaded going into work and started hating men. Sexuality on this planet is very fragmented right now. I learned that you pay a price for every penny on a soul level that is much greater than the money you make. IT's not worth it. I learned that I deserved much more than stripping had to offer me.

Every woman I've met in the sex industry has had a lot of psychological problems, and they are devoured and spit out by the "machine" at some point. It's dangerous right now.

Now I am going to express these energies in a more artistic fashion, with dancing on my own terms on creative merit. (I like bellydance and indian temple dancing) I'm going to dance on *my* terms the way I want to in the way I want to be honored.

The problem is not expressing the sensuality, it's finding a safe environment to do so.

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lalalinda
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posted March 26, 2007 11:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great Advice Knowflakes

Neptune darlin, there is a lot of truth in the above posts. Think about it.

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CoralFrequency
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posted March 27, 2007 03:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CoralFrequency     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Neptune,

You come up with new career ideas every so often.. and you seem very stressed about it.

I think you should relax, you still have some time to decide.. at least a couple of years until high school's over..

I don't want to answer the escort question, because you already got great answers and because frankly I seriously doubt it will be happening, so I'm not worried.

But when it comes to career.. I could see you doing well in any of these..

Media/Journalism - because you are very articulate and talkative. You could also travel with media (Saggi)

Politics - because you are obviously interested in politics and pretty argumentative. Politics is very Sagittarian.

Philosophy - because it's fascinating and I think it would appeal to your Pisces moon. You learn the most amazing things in philosophy. I think you'd like it.

Education - Once you've learnt a lot about a subject I think you are someone who could explain it quite well, including all the different sides. But it's important that you actually learn something well, before jumping to another subject.

Psychology - I'm pretty sure you said, you wanted to do medicine ages ago.. but you seem more interested in human psychology, judging by your posts and the things you bring up.

You also said something about being a tailor or a fashion designer. You could still learn that as a practical thing and do it part time or casually, while you're at uni/college. I have a family member who is Sagittarian and was a tailor for years.

But I think you are someone who wants to be noticed and you'll probably feel quite unhappy unless you are pursuing a career where you can receive acclaim. So find a subject you would enjoy studying, or take a job/career test to help you figure it out, then make a decision to stick to it and study it through to completion.

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lalalinda
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posted March 27, 2007 02:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Or maybe a little actress

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Dulce Luna
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posted March 27, 2007 02:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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i have some 'sexy' asteroids in my 2nd house, would being an escort be a lucrative way to bring in extra cash?

Ummm, no offense but aren't you like 16? Go work at the mall or McDonalds or something. An escort is no job for a minor. Most of those businesses won't even hire one....atleast I don't think so. Average pimps off the street is a whole different story though.

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posted March 27, 2007 02:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know that asteroid interpretations are all that reliable.

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libraschoice7
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posted March 27, 2007 03:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for libraschoice7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You are still so young and have so many options on what you can do with your life. Don't limit yourself like that, take the time to look around and see what quality opportunities there are out there. Seek and yee shall find

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posted March 27, 2007 03:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for libraschoice7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mabe you could look into modeling, there many different areas(catalog, fashion, bikini sport)there are alot of Sag models that make it big

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posted March 27, 2007 03:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CrankyCap     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Ummm, no offense but aren't you like 16? Go work at the mall or McDonalds or something.

Thank you Dulce...someone had to say it. I agree with the other comments as well. I don't think you could find even a handful of women in the porn or prostitution business that actively sought out that profession. Most of them fell backwards into it, because of poor self esteem, a history of abuse, or very difficult circumstances. Neptune, if you have the time to be sitting on a computer I can't imagine that your circumstances are that dire. Judging from this post, as well as others, you seem to put an awful lot of importance on your appearance and sex appeal. This is not a bad thing, except when that is the ONLY thing that you really value about yourself. You are young and still have a lot of time to find yourself, which is what you need to do. You will probably not figure out your life's true passion until you are in your mid-twenties at least.

Until then, concentrate on who you are inside. Prostitution will NOT bring you enlightenment and inner peace.

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shirty
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posted March 27, 2007 04:23 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My two cents is that people take this thread too seriously. I highly doubt she is considering this, it's more of a hypothetical question. She's just exploring the possibilities of her placements.

We've all read her posts and I'm sure she's smart enough to know that this wouldn't be a good choice.. no need to panic and suggest she work in fast food.

Notice how most replies have no astrological relevance? I'll let Neptune answer the thread through since she's the only one who knows what she meant by the question.

That said, I really enjoyed CoralFrequency's post because it is uplifting.

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libraschoice7
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posted March 27, 2007 04:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for libraschoice7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There... my post has some astrological relevance added to it.

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shirty
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posted March 27, 2007 04:38 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yours was nice too, libra!

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CrankyCap
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posted March 27, 2007 04:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CrankyCap     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
shirty - I know you feel a bit of a need to defend your fellow Saggies, which I understand, but Neptune's question would be disconcerting to me no matter which sign posted it.

It is difficult for me to grasp why any 16 year old would even be thinking of such a thing. And I'd imagine that she's probably a bit more consumed with the idea than you think...why else would she have posted?

As far as the astrological aspects...there are many things one can do that express creativity and sensuality. She could become an entertainer (i.e. Madonna, Demi Moore), she could be a massage therapist, a belly dance instructor like Neon Artemis mentioned, or even a sex therapist...why not help other people with sexual disfunction??? My Sag cousin thought about doing that for a while...

Anyway, the point of all these posts was that this is not a healthy way for a 16 year old to be thinking. No, I'm not a parent, but I would be very concerned if my daughter felt such a desire...

Just my opinion...

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CrankyCap
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posted March 27, 2007 05:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CrankyCap     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually...just thought of something else. Neptune, if you really, REALLY are serious about doing something in the sex oriented industry, there is always the professional dominatrix. I know of someone that does this for a living. She makes a TON of money, owns her own studio, and there is absolutely, positively NO SEX that goes on. It is all perfectly legal. You still have to be very careful though, as it can be dangerous, and it takes a certain kind of personality to do it.

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shirty
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posted March 27, 2007 05:04 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I really don't wish to get into a debate about what teenagers should or shouldn't be thinking. Fact is, the world is changing, and our children and youth -- whether we like it or not -- are being exposed to things earlier generations would considering extremely disturbing. This exposure leads to thinking about things we could call inapproriate for someone's age.

Her post is a sentence long. How can you look that deeply into it before allowing her to respond to the question: "are you seriously considering prostitution as a career choice?"?

I understand your concern, I just find it creepy that she can't even express an idea without being told it is wrong. I like that you offered astrological suggestions in the second post.. that's the kind of thing that will actually help.

I must seem like a dictator right now telling you how to post, but that's not my intention. I was more disturbed by the surge of concerned responses than I was by the odd question in the thread itself. If we do not ask questions we do not grow. Same goes for thinking, even if we don't agree with the thoughts.

This isn't a defence of Sagittarians.. but it's certainly a Sagittarian issue. Let's all be a little more open!

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amisha121877
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posted March 27, 2007 05:14 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
neptune5 i like your forthrightness, you ask questions clearly and concisely and state your opinion as such, you are also just as curious about the answers as you are in the questions you have. (p.s. this is the 3rd time i'm editing this - i'm so blah on expressing myself today) ANYWAY, being a sag - there are so many things that catch our interests and surprisingly enough, there are only a few things we want for ourselves in life but we are at our best when we are happy - as far as exploring our interests AND obtaining the few things we want for ourselves in life. some of us take a long time to pin down what we want to stick to for the long haul. ALSO, being an escort - you don't have to have sex with the person (as per some people's fears on this page) you can just be someone's date somewhere like a dinner party, etc. As long as you stay true to your principles and what your boundaries are (which is partly to do with recognizing your strengths and being aware of your weaknessess) - you should do fine. if you are still in high school - being an "escort" could be like someone paying you to go to the prom with them, in some cases but there is so much you have to be aware of like being able to protect yourself or having someone who you can rely on who is like your bodyguard, among other things.

i like CoralFrequency's suggestions - have you tried any of those out? you definitely could use the above qualities that you have to your advantage for yourself and others especially with the placements you have in the 2nd house.

i admire you for being concerned about your future and you are still in high school(?) - now you can start trying things in your school and community that can help you further in the future - activities like volunteer, debates, sports/music, going for political positions and prom court, mentoring, etc. the money will come when you are sure of what you love - don't despair - all in due time. you don't want to grow up wishing you had taken advantage of your high school years. getting yourself involved in school definitely is a plus for your future endeavors - life is a lot like riding a bike but it is a hell of a lot more fun and possible if you are enjoying yourself.

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Jan_A
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posted March 27, 2007 05:36 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
neptune5
How are you doing? Nice to see,that you still post here.

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neptune5
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posted March 28, 2007 01:12 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lauren,

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think you should relax, you still have some time to decide.. at least a couple of years until high school's over..

I don't want to answer the escort question, because you already got great answers and because frankly I seriously doubt it will be happening, so I'm not worried.


well, not really, i'm entering my senior year this fall, and if you've been keeping up with me i said about a week ago i'm primarly (full time) going into fashion, i'm applying to fashion schools. What you said was quite inspirational but when i'm doubted it only motivates me, and youve done a lot of that for me lauren, so thanks.

dulce, and cranky cap

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Ummm, no offense but aren't you like 16? Go work at the mall or McDonalds or something. An escort is no job for a minor. Most of those businesses won't even hire one....atleast I don't think so. Average pimps off the street is a whole different story though.

oh, goodness, why are you running with this, who said i would be doing this at 16, or maybe i should have clarified, sorry excuse my mistake. i'm thinking this over, because it is a serious decision and if i'm going to be doing something like this for the rest of my life or then so, i have to consider thinking about it early on, i'm trying to be mature about this process, and not rush it, like i see some of you think i'm doing, or maybe i should have just clarified, or maybe someone should have waited for me to clarify.


I also want to thank the 1st 2 posters, good insight.

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neptune5
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posted March 28, 2007 01:27 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
another thing i wanted to say was, i don't understand why some of you guys are so uptight about it, if its apart of them in some way, like a chart, and they want to make it a presence in their lives, let them live their lives, people have to do their own thing. I'm very sure that there are things that all of you are doing that are ridiculously outrageous to someone else, but to you its just fine, and you don't speak about it.

Well with me i'm a little bit more open and honest with myself and people around me, and i like people to know who I am and what i'm aspiring to be. I don't fear people's comments or doubts, or agitations, or annoyances, or whatever. And I feel that's a strength, but I see to some of you its not.

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neptune5
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posted March 28, 2007 04:21 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I personally think its extremely funny how, whenever i declare or make public my aspirations, my dreams, who I am, i get shut down, then when i reply with basic common sense, i get no answer. its genuinely hilarious.

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posted March 28, 2007 04:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Those people probably haven't been here in order to comment (I'm guessing).

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posted March 28, 2007 10:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CoralFrequency     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When I was much younger, I was talking to a girl who was older than me. I think we were talking about rape.

I said repeatedly that I didn't understand what the big deal was. It seemed like 'nothing' to me.

In hindsight, the reason I felt this way is because I had no experience of sex, no memory to go on and so I could detach myself from it to the point where it meant nothing.

I know you didn't mention whether or not you've had sex, but considering your detachment in talking about it as a 'career choice', I'll be assuming you have not and don't understand the physical reality of it.

Both spiritually and physically, Sex is creation. You wouldn't be here today unless your mother and your dad had sex and MADE you. I wouldn't be here today unless my mum and my dad had sex and MADE me. Acoustic wouldn't be here today if his.. you get it.

Sex is much to commercialized these days. It's just as important as birth and death.. because it's what perpetuates the circle. Without sex there would be no birth or death. Without birth there would be no sex or death. Without death there would be no rebirth and eventually sex.

When you do understand the physical reality of it (once you've had sex) and you also come to terms with the spiritual reality of it (creation).. you would be at a point where you can make a more informed decision as to whether this is something you could go through with or enjoy.

Right now you don't seem to be at that place, and that's probably why people are not replying to your last post.

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shirty
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posted March 28, 2007 10:34 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't mean to deface your entire argument, but these days sex, generally, is viewed separately from procreation. I could go on a rant about non-heterosexuality but I won't bore you. In addition, advances in technology have allowed us to create life with the absence of any kind of sexual interaction between two individuals. In fact many are choosing this method due to life circumstances (such as infertility or the desire to remain single).

I'm pretty sure there are two extreme views on sexuality, and it's almost impossible to convince one side of the other's arguments. Sex is personal, and it's meaning, value, or importance, will differ from individual to individual. It is fair for you to offer your personal views of sex, but one must remember that the person next to you may feel entirely different. Whether someone has had sex or not, I believe it is important for them to think about it and ask questions. It's upsetting that the general response to her questions is one of disconcert. I'm not talking to you here Coral, because you've actually made informed, well-thought out posts. Very kind and helpful of you!

Neptune, I agree with you, it's funny how the reactions change when we try to keep the discussion to your actual question. Everyone wants to tell you what's right or wrong based on what they've heard.

I personally appreciate your open-mindedness and willingness to share your honest thoughts with this forum. I hope you continue to foster that inner desire for expression. You're an example for all of us, especially older generations.

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