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livelife2learn
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posted March 29, 2007 09:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for livelife2learn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I met someone and had relationship for few months and now I personally feel that I do not have any further strength to keep this relationship going on because of several reasons age gap, family pressure,status, money, his financial conditions,etc as it conflicts some of my beliefs and I feel karmically this should be over.

However he keeps coming back to you. I know it will be very easy for me to take his help. I am refusing to take this help.I am completely lost with the relationship I am having with this person. He had come into my life to change it.Lot of wisdom and knowledge was exchanged. It was completely intellectually and I felt there was no emotional connection. It was very empty some places.

But after this relationship I am kind of completely off guard and don't know where am I going what's happening my life.

I am not sure whether you can answer all my questions but it would be helpful to know more about it.


My Details

16th Novemeber ,1983
8:20 am
Mumbai India

His Details

13th of October,1964
10: 15 am
Carlisle, England.

Please let me know.

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wilsontc
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posted March 30, 2007 01:13 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
live,

There are very few personal connections (connections to the personal planets (Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, and Mars) ) between you, as you have already guessed. This person has Pluto (transformation, also control) focused in the 10th house (duty, also authority) so he likes to be in control and the authority in things. You have a least aspected (strong energy) Pluto focused in the 11th house (friends), indicating you either can strongly control your friends or your friends can strongly control you. You have the power to take control of this "friendship" and get out, if that is what you want. All you have to do is to realize you have had the power all along (even though you may not feel it...it's still there!).

Powerfully,

Tim

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livelife2learn
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posted March 30, 2007 05:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for livelife2learn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks ,,, despite not having any conection to any of our planets. Why did we had brief love relationship ? I still don't get it... I am wondering whether his influence in future will be positive or negative.He has challenged lots of my beliefs and broaden my horizon but it has left me confused and without clue about where I am going?

I was living my not-so=perfect yet satisfied life.

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tara19
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posted March 30, 2007 06:22 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi livelife2live,

I'm gonna do a bit of magi synastry here.

btw, P means Progressed, and N means Natal, okay?

okay, here are some KEY combinations in your helio and geo synastry (you can get these via astro.com):

1) your geo chiron is square his geo saturn (and this is transdimensional, being in both your helio and geo synastry, so it's VERY powerful. the problem with Saturn-Chiron aspects in synastry is that this combo is very glue-like. if it's a soft aspect or a conjunction, it can give a lot of staying power to a relationship, though it's not easy to deal with. but the hard aspects like squares, oppositions or contraparallels draw two people in at the beginning, but if close, are not at all easy to deal with and often result in 'heartbreak' - which basically means that the relationship might not work to your liking).

2) his geo chiron is parallel your geo venus-mars parallel -- THIS IS VERY SEXUAL AND ROMANTIC.

3) his helio chiron is trine your helio venus which is in turn conjunct his helio mars and trine his own helio neptune. together, all these form a grand trine. I'd venture to say that this configuration is the reason for your involvement.

However, YOU did not complete his Grand Trine (that is, he already has one in his natal helio chart, between his neptune, his mars, and his chiron). instead, he helped form one FOR you: your helio venus, sitting there all by itself, all of a sudden found itself in a Grand Trine with all those planets of his. So a closed circuit was formed with your Venus, his Mars, his Neptune, and his Chiron. all those are romance planets - a potent combo. plus, his Mars (a sexual planet) and your Venus (a sexual/romance planet) are conjunct.

this is the reason why, when people don't look at their helio synastry and/or ignore their declinations, they are missing BIG parts of the puzzle. looking at geo longitudinal aspects is NOT enough. and I did not even look at your helio latitudes (yet)!

anyway, you do have strong attraction between you, but you also have some very turbullent energy with his helio saturn contraparallel your venus-mars parallel (that's in your helio lats). a grand trine in this case just might not be enough to hold you together.

he might also be extremely intractable with his helio saturn closely trine his helio venus.

also, your progressed geo charts show your involvement as well (darkdreamer and I have been talking about this in this thread):
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/012875.html

1) your P venuses are conjunct - romantic
2) your P venus is parallel his P venus and contraparallel his P mars - very sexual
3) your P sun is trine his N mars - very sexual as well. these progressed aspects between people have enough drawing power.

anyway, all the best. take care...

Tara.

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livelife2learn
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posted March 31, 2007 06:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for livelife2learn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Williams and Tara,

William I relaise that power and I am trying best to give up that friendship too but it is difficult.

Tara It makes sense.I can relate you saying about Grand trine could be correct. As in whole relationship I never tried to put lots of effort.I would say that is where I am not completing his Grand Trine comes.I was very busy and going through family crisis when he came.I have reacted things to the beliefs I had from years. It must be same for him probably I did challenge his beliefs too.

He tried to help but I just didn't wanted. He has got great timing and we share ESP connection but circumstances around me were very difficult and they always get when we tried to get closer. Imagine not being able to enjoy any of the outings but it didn't really matter we were happy together. He can't deal with my family.

I fought with the relationship feeling as I never wanted it to happen.It did happen. After a while I kind of figure it out I will not be able to have this permanently due to several reasons.I made a choice.

I guess it went fine when he found somebody else in few weeks and I just wanted to know what was left and now he keeps coming back.
Before this relationship happened I was independent and strong but after this it has left me dependent and expecting it would be easier to get that help.

Am I just being stubborn or that's what I should be doing because I feel me not taking help is more of some Karmic reason. Me not being in that relationship is something I should be doing due to circumstances rather than my own feelings.

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livelife2learn
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posted March 31, 2007 06:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for livelife2learn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Other thing is that if we are considering progressed chart and not natal that it will last till progressed chart will be. It will change eventually and that will affect relationship too. Is that correct ?

I would like to grow with someone but just wondering

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