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Topic: Help w/ Scorpio Moon Male
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LibraGirl22 Newflake Posts: 3 From: Alexandria, VA, USA Registered: May 2009
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posted April 04, 2007 05:24 PM
Hello everyone, I am fairly new here and joined to learn more about astrology from all of you. I am hoping you might be able to offer some insight. 5 months ago I met a Gem sun/Scorp moon on a business trip. My Pisces moon immediately felt his intensity and something about him spoke deeply to me. While we only exchanged pleasantries at that time once I returned home I reached out and for the past five months we have established what I believed to be a pretty solid connection via email. Every day, all day long we would email about pretty much anything, he would phone me at work, etc. It was constant. He became a part of my everyday, and I of his. After weighing all the various pros and cons I decided to book a trip (with a girlfriend) to get away and see him. He froze, it was like he absolutely became paralyzed when he saw me and realized that I was actually there. I was there for four days and we only spent about 15 minutes of total alone time together. The rest was spent with his friends, in a group setting where his personality is very different...jovial and light but shy(obviously a bi product of his Gem sun). It was like he saw me and there it was, right there in front of him and he just did not know what to do. At one point during a very intense moment where I asked him what was going on he was holding me so tightly I literally thought I would break in half, he said that he could not get attached and that it was a defense mechanism against getting close. When I tried to combat the point he told me not to bother, that he knew what I was going to say and that he has heard it before. He was looking so intensely at me and holding me for dear life. Needless to say I am left devastated and confused. Confused about what the past 5 months really were, confused that I would travel a very long distance to see him and that he would be so careless of my feelings and flake out like he did. My moon senses his deep confusion and inner torment. I just want to reach out to him and let him know how much I feel his pain and want him to trust me, that I am here and that he can always be himself with me. I returned a few days ago and have not heard from him, nor have I reached out. I want to email him but I am unsure if that is what he needs right now. I can't help but feel that he felt an overhwhelming sense of relief that I was gone and that makes me so sad. I am reading a lot on the board about the "tests" some of these folks like to put people through and also how moon scorpios do not like being ignored. I do not want him to think that I am ignoring him or that it's over or that I don't care, but I also do not want to overhwhelm him. I want to give him space as I don't even know how he is feeling about what happened. Can anyone shed some light on this situation? Should I reach out to him or has he already written me off as another person he has shut out? Any insight here is greatly appreciated, I am hurting and I feel as though I need some perspective from those who might know what is going on w/ him deep down. I should also mention that there is about a 3.5 year age difference between us, with me being older. Thank you very much to all of you for any help. Lib Sun Pisces Moon Scorpio Rising
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BlueRoamer Knowflake Posts: 109 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 04, 2007 07:27 PM
Alanis Morrisette is Gemini Sun/Scorpio moon.Have you heard the expression, "I'm gonna go Alanis Morrisette on your ass?" LOL if you havent listened to her album jagged little pill you should. Sound like a typical case of male "i don't want to get attached" syndrome. I'd say play hard to get. IP: Logged |
SweetCappie unregistered
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posted April 04, 2007 07:45 PM
Hi I have alot of experience with Scorpio mooners, my 2 exes and my good friend has this placement (they also have Air sun signs).All I can say is tread very carefully!!! They will stomp on your heart with no remorse and play games with you IF they are the unevolved, immature type. It is a very intense moon for a Air sun to deal with, especially for a man so the guys I knew were very unbalanced and a lil psycho. If he has a penchant for revenge/punishment towards anyone that does him wrong, please RUN because they will sting you if you do anything to hurt them (even if its unintended or imagined on their part). This guy does not want to get attached, so why bother. Its best not to play therapist to them because it won't work. It will drain your energy. Its not your job to help him get past his fears. He clearly isn't ready for a relationship or anything serious. A casual fling or pure sex with no strings attached is probably the most he can give you. I have a Gemini rising and I know that I don't like anyone uninvited showing up anywhere near me. It gives me a feeling that I'm being choked, like a claustrophobic feeling that my freedom and personal space is being invaded. So I can definitely see why his reaction was not what you expected. If he had no idea that you was gonna show up on that certain day & time, I'm sure he felt what I described above. Because when I feel like that, my reactions are the same as you described. Geminis need space, yet his Scorpio moon may not want that space. Its an inner struggle of closeness vs freedom. So he may have a Dr.Jekyll/Mr.Hyde twin personality that exhibits his inner struggle. I seen this in my exes and it is so frustrating to be on the receiving end of this. If you can get his birth time, do his birth chart and see if there's any strong negative placements. Also do a composite chart and synastry. I would not contact him. You already visited him and now its time for him to reciprocate. Do not chase him, let him do the chasing. If you choose to stick with him, as soon as you see anymore red flags (red flag #1 was his reaction to your visit and #2 was him telling you he doesn't want to get attached, #3 will be if he doesn't contact you), you should RUN and never look back! There are tons of available men out there waiting for you. Good Luck! P.S - If he is evolved, then I would suggest to take things slow and see if he initiates contact. My good friend is not psycho like the guys were and she is very into having her freedom and personal alone time. She also can be very non-chalant, aloof, and doesn't like possessiveness or jealousy. She doesn't respond well to grand displays of uninvited affection or drama. She likes to be in control and to control her men, yet if the guy gives in, she hates it. Oh, I noticed they need to respect you in order to love you. If you don't stand up to them when they do something wrong or are afraid to voice your disagreements, they will lose respect for you and try to play games with you. They don't like doormats or anyone that doesn't challenge them. They like when you play a lil hard to get, if you chase them, you'll regret it. IP: Logged |
SweetCappie unregistered
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posted April 04, 2007 07:51 PM
BlueRoamer is right! Jagged Little Pill is a great album and her Scorpio Moon really showed on that album. I wish she still made angry music like that, it helps me release when I'm angry.Avril Lavigne is also a Scorpio Moon (Libra Sun) and her music (well I haven't heard her current album but I have the others) is also very expressive in a Scorpionic way. I love Scorpio suns but the moons can be kinda difficult if you don't know how to handle it. Be strong and stand up to them. IP: Logged |
BornUnderDioscuri Knowflake Posts: 61 From: Registered: Jun 2009
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posted April 05, 2007 12:10 AM
Thats odd...i wonder what his rising is. Im a Gemini Scorpio and I know i try to protect my feelings but when I like someone its soooo obvious. And i dont do whole intense stares. Maybe hes a Scorpio rising too. But its true if i feel im falling for someone adn im uncomfortable I will run off. But ur a Libra i have never been uncomfy with a Libra...odd..edit: Alanis also has a Taurus moon in the 8th like me but I don't see any of that in her music. I love metal, not a big fan of hers oddly. But Avril Lavigne i see it more in, and in her eyes too ------------------ Sun-Gemini Moon-Scorpio ASC-Libra IP: Logged |
Belage Knowflake Posts: 1458 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 05, 2007 01:58 AM
I agree with SweetCappie. Her advice right there will save you a lot of heartaches in the future:"This guy does not want to get attached, so why bother. Its best not to play therapist to them because it won't work. It will drain your energy. Its not your job to help him get past his fears. He clearly isn't ready for a relationship or anything serious. A casual fling or pure sex with no strings attached is probably the most he can give you." He's been honest with you. Don't think you have the magic touch that's going to change him. Very often, we women love to delude ourselves with this fantasy of coming into a man's life and opening him up. If he decides to move past his fears, he'll let you know. In the meantime, YOU move on. IP: Logged |
SweetCappie unregistered
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posted April 05, 2007 02:54 AM
Alanis sang about her birthtime and birthdate in the song "1974", 6/1/74 9:39 am. She has Scorpio Moon in the 4th house. No 8th house planets."Jagged Little Pill" has some intense songs. IP: Logged |
foolsgold unregistered
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posted April 05, 2007 09:30 PM
I have a scorpio moon (and a sag sun) and I have problems with commitment. I will commit in spirit and over distance, but I feel crowded if the commitment is here and now.. I have a hard time having to live with a partner. I will also - if pressed to it - drop anyone without looking back. Not that I want to, but if the alternative is having to open up and letting in before I'm ready, then dropping the person seems more sensible. I will not hurt anyone intentionally ( anymore - did some work on that issue.. ).Oh - and please excuse my english - it's not my first language. IP: Logged |
Aquarius78 Newflake Posts: 1 From: United States Registered: Jan 2014
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posted July 30, 2014 11:18 AM
I dated an aquarius with Scorpio moon. They create their own kind of hell and bring others into it. I have a pisces moon also. I tried to add my ex on fb but he blocked me before I could tell him I hope he is doing well. I guess its his way of pushing me away and trying to forget about me even though when we dated he said he was inlove with me and that he wanted to spend the rest of his life with me. I am dating a Tuarus sun with scorpio moon now but I think the sun has an influence on the moon greatly. Find some one with a earthy sun or toned down sun that can keep their moon in check so you dont have to deal with crazy.IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 51599 From: Saturn next to Charmaine Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 30, 2014 04:17 PM
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Kate August Knowflake Posts: 35 From: NYC Registered: Nov 2013
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posted August 01, 2014 11:34 AM
Hi Libragirl -- I feel your pain. How did you decide to go visit this guy? Was he expecting you?That said, emailing can be very dangerous like texting and using social media to communicate. It is very freeing and safe to write and know that's all your doing. I'm a Scorpio moon and I've heard about the testing thing but I've never been conscious about it in myself. I've never been afraid of commitment either. This guy's reaction to you was awful and I don't blame you for being devastated. If he knew you were coming, there is no justifiable explanation for his behavior. Stay away from this person is my advice. He is probably horribly embarrassed and feeling guilty because he knows he was acting badly. It takes a special person to overcome the ego and accept responsibility. He may be unable to. IP: Logged |
ScandinavianCrab Knowflake Posts: 50 From: Scandinavia Registered: Aug 2013
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posted August 13, 2014 04:57 PM
Thread is over 7 years old so I believe it's a long-shot trying to get an answer from her now. Tho i would love to hear if he have some aspects between Venus and Saturn IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 51599 From: Saturn next to Charmaine Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 14, 2014 10:18 AM
Yeah, she's long gone.IP: Logged |
Stawr Moderator Posts: 3249 From: N. America Registered: Nov 2010
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posted February 26, 2015 10:31 AM
Cool read though. "stay away from me" isn't that what Christian Grey says to Anastasia? hahaAs a Scorpio Moon female, I don't think I know any Scorpio Moon males. And it's probably for the best. I honestly feel like I can say something about every moon sign for a male except for Scorpio. Weird. Yeah I wouldn't bother to pursue him. As a female with this moon placement, I find the whole "stay away" to be cheesy. Especially with movies like Twilight and 50 shades.
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Randall Webmaster Posts: 51599 From: Saturn next to Charmaine Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 27, 2015 01:25 PM
quote: Originally posted by Stawr: Cool read though. "stay away from me" isn't that what Christian Grey says to Anastasia? hahaAs a Scorpio Moon female, I don't think I know any Scorpio Moon males. And it's probably for the best. I honestly feel like I can say something about every moon sign for a male except for Scorpio. Weird. Yeah I wouldn't bother to pursue him. As a female with this moon placement, I find the whole "stay away" to be cheesy. Especially with movies like Twilight and 50 shades.
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Swanlake Knowflake Posts: 83 From: Registered: Aug 2014
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posted March 10, 2015 11:38 PM
Yes it was a good read he he. In general, it's not a good idea for women to do the chasing. Leads to disappointment & heartache too many times, I've observedIP: Logged |
bluestskies88 Knowflake Posts: 37 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted March 13, 2015 04:48 PM
quote: Originally posted by Randall: Yeah, she's long gone.
heh, or they can both be married and have 10 kids by now! nevertheless, was with a scorpio moon, and same issues with intimacy / attachment stuff....great read and advise!
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Soltze Knowflake Posts: 75 From: Registered: Mar 2015
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posted March 25, 2015 09:08 PM
If there's true feeling the best thing to do for a Scorpio Moon is being reassuring, put your foot down and saying: "I'm not giving up on you. I love you. You're not that scary" Yeah that's what I wanted. But since the person couldn't give me emotional intimacy I broke up. Always begging in my mind: "Please show some feeling...if U do it..." Off course if you don't love a Scorpio Moon just go away because trust me...we can see it all and it hurt really bad------------------ Do thy will ___________ Sun in Gemini Moon/Pluto Scorpio IP: Logged |
Nine Moderator Posts: 2295 From: The Cusp of Love Registered: May 2009
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posted March 30, 2015 07:11 PM
For me, this had nothing to do with Moon in Scorpio and everything to do with Sun in Gemini. As a Gemini this story sounds very familiar; a deeply romantic relationship - all words & thousands of miles between us. Gemini's are capable of carrying on such an "affair" for years. I'm a Gemini and I've done it, more than once, more than twice. The surest way to end such a "relationship" is to make it real or bring the fantasy into reality. The reason he froze is because it wasn't meant to be an in-the-flesh relationship. It was meant to be an affair of the mind. You were meant to touch him and he you with words. quote:
They are tremendous flirts, as for them flirting can be a kind of intercourse which is an end in itself. This can be very confusing to the recipient, who may believe that they are being offered something that just isn't there. They have no way of knowing that what they are participating in is not a prelude to sex but an alternative to it.
--Love & Sexuality, Babs Kirby & Janey Stubbs. ^^was said of mars in Gemini, but I believe it applies to Gemini generally. IP: Logged |
Soltze Knowflake Posts: 75 From: Registered: Mar 2015
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posted March 30, 2015 07:19 PM
quote: Originally posted by Nine: For me, this had nothing to do with Moon in Scorpio and everything to do with Sun in Gemini. As a Gemini this story sounds very familiar; a deeply romantic relationship - all words & thousands of miles between us. Gemini's are capable of carrying on such an "affair" for years. I'm a Gemini and I've done it, more than once, more than twice. The surest way to end such a "relationship" is to make it real or bring the fantasy into reality. The reason he froze is because it wasn't meant to be an in-the-flesh relationship. It was meant to be an affair of the mind. You were meant to touch him and he you with words. --Love & Sexuality, Babs Kirby & Janey Stubbs. ^^was said of mars in Gemini, but I believe it applies to Gemini generally.
Well. I'm Gem Sun, Scorpio Moon. And I broke up for lack of emotional connection and good sex. Does that sound like "an affair of the mind" to you? :-D
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Nine Moderator Posts: 2295 From: The Cusp of Love Registered: May 2009
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posted March 31, 2015 12:24 AM
Not in your case, no. However, this particular relationship sounds like a meeting of the minds more than a physical connection.IP: Logged |