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jupitersgirl
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posted April 07, 2007 05:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jupitersgirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm confused. Help me. Tell me about yourself in love. I don't understand why a cappy male tells me to talk to him insistantly then doesn't answer my phone calls...

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posted April 07, 2007 05:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm a Capricorn. It could be him compartamentalizing his life. If he's not ready to talk to you at the moment you call, then he may blow you off for the moment.

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posted April 07, 2007 06:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jupitersgirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think so...I can understand him actually. He has his problems with his job, and money. That's very depressing for him not to have a real job at that age and he's a capricorn so he cares a lot about that. Our life standards are very different and he may not be very comfortable about that also. I didn't really take the fact that he didn't answer my calls too personally. I know that he has no problem with me but he has his own problems. I tried to help him find a job in my city but he didn't want that also, he kept quiet. I don't know any other way to help him. Maybe it's better not to try to help him. I think I'll just try to call him later...

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posted April 07, 2007 07:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, if we ask for help, then we'll take the help, but if we don't ask for it, then we usually aren't interested in it (all Cardinal Suns are like this to some extent). Capricorns take forever doing everything, so even though he may seem paralyzed at the moment, he'll get it together. Like our opposites, Cancers, sometimes we need to take time to wallow in our depression before getting back into the game.

One of the best ways for you to be supportive is: on the occasion that he asks your opinion on something he's contemplating deflect the question back to him. He is interested in your opinion, but by putting the question back on him he'll know that you trust his judgment, which is more important to him than you might know. He asks you a question, you ask him how he feels about it. He'll really enjoy that if you're able to do it.

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posted April 08, 2007 04:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jupitersgirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We get along very well and I enjoy talking to him a lot when we're together, but when he's away I don't know what he's doing and I get discouraged when I don't get the responses I want...

I'm also starting to believe that capricorn men don't believe in astrology since there's only you who's answerine me AG.

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JupitersGirl, you have my sympathy. From your username I take that you have some Sagittarius in your chart just like me. And just like you I'm involved with a Cap guy right now too. And your guy sounds a lot like mine ... He is having a lot of problems with his job and with money. Even though he is working like a madman, he doesn't get the job he wants and neither does he get the rewards he deserves for his hard work. All of this makes him feel very depressed. Now, the thing is, that although he keeps telling me that he is having problems with his job and is feeling depressed about a lot of things, he never gives me any details, which makes it a little bit hard for me to understand what he is going through. I tried to help him by listening to him and offering some advice and some encouraging words, you know, telling him that I believe in him and that everything is going to be just fine. But right now it is not working and he's pulling back from me ... He doesn't return my calls and I have no idea what he is up to right now. Unlike you, however, I take it somewhat personally that he is not talking to me. I hate not knowing why he is feeling so sad lately and not being able to help him.

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posted April 08, 2007 07:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jupitersgirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
SagSun , you put my emotions into words. Actually I do take it personally but I'm trying hard not to take it personally because I didn't do anything wrong and I give him a lot of space. What else could I have done? I think it's frustrating for us sags to wait without knowing when this phase will end and why it's like this, but only thing to do right now is to wait and I'll try my chance later again. It's so good to have a sag to share these thoughts with, I feel like I'm not alone anymore .

(Bythe way I have sun, mercury and uranus in sagittarius.)

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I totally understand what you are saying ... I am trying so hard not to take his current behavior personally and just be patient with him (which is not exactly an easy thing to do for me) ... I mean, when I look at this whole situation from a rational point of view, I know that it has nothing to do with me and I keep telling this myself over and over again. I tried to develop a thicker skin ... But at the end of the day I still feel like he is avoiding me and I'm hurt because of that. I'm always asking myself what I did wrong that he doesn't feel like I'm the kind of person that he could talk to (even thoug I know that I didn't do anything wrong). Maybe I'm just too self-absorbed, maybe I'm too sensitive, maybe I'm craving too much attention ... But it feels good to know that I'm not alone in this. And seeing that you are dealing with the same kind of problem with your Cappy will probably help me to accept his behavior and to sit this thing out. After all, what else could we do but to be as patient as we possibly can???

PS: I have Sun, Mercury, Jupiter, Uranus and Neptune in Sagittarius. And my Leo Moon is adding even more fire ... there's way too much fire for my Pisces Ascendant to handle in my chart...

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posted April 08, 2007 09:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jupitersgirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I understand you so well...It hurts me too, but I don't want to let this hurt me. If only he was more open with me I know that we have a lot to share, and I just want to talk, I don't want anything more than that. I don't want extra attention or anything I just want to talk to him and share his thoughts and we get along so good when we talk. I don't know why he keeps me away from himself. I have pisces moon but my capricorn venus really helps me here. I think I would have given up long ago if I had my venus in another sign...and with my pisces moon I dream a lot . It also helps me deal with this issue because I get lost in my dreams while I wait, so I don't feel the time that passes without anything happening. Still, it doesn't mean that I'm not aware of what's going on.

We do get some results when we are patient SagSun, but I want to find a new solution to this problem because I feel like it's a waste of time to wait so much with no apparent reason. Maybe we can figure out a new way to get them out of their shell. Hey I just want a signal from him that shows me that he's still alive! Is that so much to ask for?

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posted April 08, 2007 06:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Capricorns don't really believe anyone is truly sympathetic to them, so they keep to themselves when they're down. Capricorns often do things differently than normal people, and so when you're trying to be helpful and giving suggestions, to him, you're trivializing what he's going through (mostly because you're looking at things optimistically, and he's looking at things either pessimistically or realistically). For Capricorns there's a tangible difference between the way we think, and the way everyone else thinks. We really dislike people telling us that something we're going through is easy, "you just do this, this, and this..." We don't believe that strategies other people use will work out as easy for us (until we try them for ourselves, and see for ourselves). We don't believe in Sagittarian luck, because we're not as good at being upbeat and charming. People really bog us down [with talk we consider un-useful] when we're dealing with our stuff.

I think all of these traits get better with age, though, as we learn more of the value of letting people help us and letting people's word get to us.

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posted April 08, 2007 06:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jupitersgirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What would impress you AG? (Or even if you're impressed, is it possible that you wouldn't show it?)

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posted April 08, 2007 07:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can you go see him? I mean, if you see him all the time it may not mean much, but whenever someone goes out of their way to come see me I appreciate it a lot (as far as being impressed).

It is possible for him to be impressed without showing it. If we don't show people that we're impressed, they may just work a little harder at impressing us. I think that's part of our Capricornian business instinct. I can see why that would suck for other people.

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posted April 08, 2007 11:44 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I tried to work harder at impressing the cap I know but because He is soo un emotional and expressionless( so to speak ) I gave up because it did suck and I felt my efforts un appreciated

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@jupitersgirl

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We do get some results when we are patient SagSun, but I want to find a new solution to this problem because I feel like it's a waste of time to wait so much with no apparent reason. Maybe we can figure out a new way to get them out of their shell. Hey I just want a signal from him that shows me that he's still alive! Is that so much to ask for?

I've been trying to figure out how to get through to him for years now. But everything I've tried (and I tried A LOT of things) didn't work or it did work, but only for a short period of time and then he fell back into his old behavior. But I care very deeply about him and I feel that he is worth being patient ... and right now being patient is pretty much the only option I see. But please let me know when you figure out a new way to get through to the Cappies!!!


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You think going out of my way to see my Cappy would impress him??? If only I had known this a year ago ... Because last year I wanted to visit him (we live in different countries, like 2000 miles away from each other) and when I told him that I would like to visit him he said at first that he would be really happy to see me and that he is looking forward to it. But then he stopped talking to me for like 3 months, which made me cancel the trip because I figured that if he doesn't want to talk to me he wouldn't want to have me there either.

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"Capricorns don't really believe anyone is truly sympathetic to them, so they keep to themselves when they're down. Capricorns often do things differently than normal people, and so when you're trying to be helpful and giving suggestions, to him, you're trivializing what he's going through (mostly because you're looking at things optimistically, and he's looking at things either pessimistically or realistically). For Capricorns there's a tangible difference between the way we think, and the way everyone else thinks. We really dislike people telling us that something we're going through is easy, "you just do this, this, and this..." We don't believe that strategies other people use will work out as easy for us (until we try them for ourselves, and see for ourselves)."


Oh... this drives me crazy. Sometimes it is simple to fix the problem... but my Capricorn friend has made his mind up that it can't be correct because it doesn't take six months to sort it out.

I'll tell him "all you have to do is this and this"... nope.... can't be... it's just to easy. Sometimes it really is "that easy".

A lot of wasted time worrying and stressing.

Edit: The evading calls or not calling issue has only happened to me once. I just stopped trying to call or wouldn't answer I know it's childish...

He asked why I didn't call or answer the phone... I told him "We'll have no double standards".
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posted April 09, 2007 11:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jupitersgirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He asked why I didn't call or answer the phone... I told him "We'll have no double standards".
Scorp, you did the best!

AG, we have a little problem here. I last saw him in January when he invited me somewhere and we spent 3 days together. (He was there for a business employment but it didn't work afterwards). The time we spent there was like a dream. He was expecting to work there but then it didn't work out. He got very disappointed. He lives in another country but he has been working in my country for 4 years and he still wanted to work and it was a very good job. It was very important to him. After that I felt that he became down and depressed. I've sent him some text messages he was replying me at first then he stopped. Then I tried to call him and I got no answer.

This is my situation.

(We had talked on the phone 3 months before he invited me to meet him. He had no hope of working here then. He talked to me very negatively. We laughed and talked for 1 hour on the phone but at the end he had told me that nothing could happen between us because of us being in different places. I consider that he saw that job opportunity as a chance to be together, and when it didn't work he got pessimistic about us,since he has to be here to make this work between us.) Or am I dreaming?

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posted April 09, 2007 11:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jupitersgirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm working hard for us SagSun, don't worry, I'm sure there's a way!

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posted September 17, 2007 03:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jupitersgirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Update...

We've talked twice and it was really great. Last night we talked for an hour on the phone and we could have continued till the morning. I want to lisgten your comments about a few things, I'll post them soon.

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posted September 18, 2007 01:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cool.

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posted September 18, 2007 11:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jupitersgirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We've talked a lot about his work and things like that, we think so much alike that we were completing each other's sentences. It was a very light-hearted and fun talk, it was very pleasant we were laughing a lot (especially him). We have mercury conjunct mercury and it was so obvious, I enjoy talking to him a lot and I think he feels the same way about it. He was talking with an excited tone. Towards the end of the conversation I asked him if he wanted to see me again. He said " I already accepted you invitation , of course I will go to Istanbul." or something like that. His tone of voice was very pleasant. Then I said, "It's not the answer to my question, I asked you if you want to see me or not." , he laughed a little, then he said (He started to sound down suddenly I don't know why.), "I'm not in love with you." It wasn't something new to me, so I took it coolly. The tone of my voice didn't change I continued to sound light hearted and fun and I told him that "I didn't ask you if you love me or not I asked you if you want to see me again." I said it in a fun and pleasant way that he sounded happy again, and he said "Of course I want to see you! Why not! Sure I want it..." and things like that. Then I said that it's good then. Anyway We started to talk about something else but he started to sound a little down after this talk. Then he said that he needed to go to bed so we said good night. This happened towards the end of that one hour conversation. Something else happened around the middle of the conversation but it was in a joking way so I don't think it's important but I'll tell you anyway. He said that he was going to Kos this weekend. I asked him once what he was going to do there, he told me that he would relax and do some waterskiing etc. Then after a few minutes I said "Don't go to Kos come to Istanbul.Why are you going there?" I was just kidding of course .(He's going there because his ex company gave him a free weekend there.) He said jokingly " I'm going there to find the love of my life.", we laughed and I said "Go find your love and I'll spend all my life alone." (Let me remind this again, we're laughing and having fun while talking like this, it's not a serious tone.) He asked " All your life?!" I said yes. We laughed again then the topic changed of course, it wasn't a serious talk anyway.

Now, he was very happy when he saw that it was me calling and he enjoyed the conversation a lot I know that, but I hope I didn't scare him with these talks. What do you think? What's going on?

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Be very careful.

Not all cap men have high sex drives. They can live without it for years if they have to. They can also lead you on for years and keep you hopeful. Sometimes like Aquarius, they might not be attracted to you at all and you might think they are leading you on.

Make sure you can handle a person like this.

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posted September 18, 2007 03:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jupitersgirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I already know that he's attracted to me sexually. We spent some days together in January and he was treating me like he was in love with me (But I knew that he wasn't but I also know that he likes me a lot.).

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(((((jupgrl))))


Hang in there!

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That's bizarre that he said that out of the blue, so random, like that..."I'm not in love with you". Was it totally out of context like it seems? Cap men can be WEIRD and complicated! I had one tell me he was "totally in love" with me- only to tell me a week later and totally uncalled for/unprovoked, "If you think someday I'm going to tell you that I'm totally in love with you, that's never going to happen." You really can't be sure what to believe. Just go with his actions and ignore the words.

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posted September 18, 2007 04:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jupitersgirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
(((Spry))) I may need your readings once in a while .

CapGirl, isn't it weird? It was exactly like I told you, it was just out of context. All I know is that he was very happy that I called, we had a great conversation except for this part and I don't know how to percieve this part. I have no idea about what exactly he thinks or feels about me.

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