Lindaland
  Astrology
  What's it Means when Pisces Go Bravado on You?

Post New Topic  Post A Reply
profile | register | preferences | faq | search

UBBFriend: Email This Page to Someone! next newest topic | next oldest topic
Author Topic:   What's it Means when Pisces Go Bravado on You?
LILYGIRL
unregistered
posted April 16, 2007 11:14 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Help!

I have been going through this weird thing with my Pisces "D". Not bad just odd. I am trying to get the way he's been communicating with me lately.

He is Pisces Sun 24 and Pisces Mercury 16. Lately whenever I see him (only every few months and I saw him last week) or when he writes me he's been really--what is the word---full of a little bravado, uncharacteristic swagger..when he tells me things it's a bit like he is bragging to me (his medical research, his cooking, his attendance at benefits...). I don't know that many Pisces men and the two that I do know I adore. One is him and one is my Dad. I guess my Dad can get that way when he's happy and I hit on his favoertie hobbies, etc...

Anyway here is my Pisces question. Is that a normal thing for them. He doesnt have any Aries. He is Cancer rising though late cancer. I wonder if once they start to trust you they feel more confident about themselves and let loose. It's kind of cute , a little sweet but sometimes it almost feels like he's competing breathlessly (with ME EVEN (grr!!!) and others--he always wants me to know that he knows this person or has done this... ) which feels awkward .....

What's going on?

IP: Logged

Neon Artemis
unregistered
posted April 16, 2007 01:25 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've found that usually when someone is acting more extreme than usual in attitude about something it's because they feel the *lack* of that quality on the inside and are overcompensating.

When I was more immature I used to put up a big front when I felt insecure, and people thought I was pretty aloof and tough, (and I might be those things at times) but I *felt* pretty weak and vulnerable on the inside and I had such strong feelings. I have a pisces moon.

In experience I have found males with Cancer influence can act that way also.

IP: Logged

Kamots
Knowflake

Posts: 30
From: Cascais, Portugal
Registered: May 2009

posted April 16, 2007 01:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kamots     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you were talking about any other sign, I would go with what Neon Artemis wrote, but since he's Pisces, he probably wants to share his joy with you and get you to talk to him about it. Pisces is a sign of extreme loners on an emotional level. When we have emotional affinity with someone and feel we can share something with a person, we become like kids who want to show off a new toy and have someone play with us.
But I mean, we are more than Sun signs and maybe the guy just needs to feel admired and valued due to insecurity... does the guy like to play games like tennis and chess (games where you basically always build on the last move your partner did and return it in a playable way - i.e the simulation of the perfect relationship)?

IP: Logged

Neon Artemis
unregistered
posted April 16, 2007 03:47 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I get excited and like to share emotionally, but I guess I don't think of that as "bravado" and "swaggering." lol

IP: Logged

Dulce Luna
Newflake

Posts: 7
From: The Asylum, NC
Registered: Apr 2009

posted April 16, 2007 05:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think its just a guy thing regardless of his sun sign.

IP: Logged

LILYGIRL
unregistered
posted April 16, 2007 05:08 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Neon and Kamots... You know for him it's bravado and swaggering--for someone else it might be just they way they breathe...LOL...I think it might be a combination of both of your comments. He seems so happy to say some of thse things--and I have to admit sometimes he really makes me laugh and is cute..But then other times it's really odd to me how insecure he acts. I mean the guy is truly upstanding, really bright and quite accomplished. And sometimes I even feel like he thinks he has to compete verbally or linguistically with me (he is pisces mercury/aqua mars meets me gemini sun and merc/aries mars.

Anyway, I would like to think it's becuase he is beginning to feel more comfortable . The behvaior is basically new. He used to be opretty quiet alot. I just don't want him to think he has to prove something amazing to me. I am very shy usually so if I am out of my cautious shell--and doing my Sag Rising/Aries Moon Protector/Gemini Sun goofy optimistic gushing Ms. Charming thing on you, I already think there's something inherently amazing and brilliant about you... And I don't like people thinking they have to compete with me..

PS--thanks Dulca--you were writing at the same time....

IP: Logged

LILYGIRL
unregistered
posted April 16, 2007 06:04 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
where's VILLY?????????????

IP: Logged

villy
unregistered
posted April 21, 2007 01:27 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey LillyGirl,
Last week I didn’t get a chance to give a visit out here.

As Kamot mentioned, once we feel affinity we open up more and share more. This good thing (sharing) can ‘continue’ only if there is a relation (not mere friendship) in place. I say this because after 1 or 2 instances we feel shy as we are not yet in a relation to share everything every moment. Also such things (opening up more) can occur if I am happy.
I will share all my thoughts in an intimate relation. Which means that I will tell the other person what exactly I feel about things/stuff.. whether I am confident of something or not, I will say so (here I treat saying/stating different than bragging) … ..fears/feelings everything would get shared. If we know that we can do something, we will say so because we are very confident of doing that.

Now lets analyze the bragging thing. I don’t think bragging is Pisces’s cup of tea. I have few close Pisces friends and know some more, and have never come across such a thing. For that matter I think we try ‘very hard’ to avoid telling the good stuff, that we under-communicate things. Yes, we do feel good about things and might be happy about it on occasions, however not for bragging purposes. We run away from getting feelings of goodness after doing something good for someone. There is something negative that we associate with feeling good about doing good.

I don’t think we act in extreme due to insecurity or lack of quality. We may not reverse the insecurity into bragging situation. What you might see combination of 2 things – happiness of some situation and insecurity of some other different situation. Saying ‘I am good, I can do it’ would be more of a confidence building measure.
Off topic - I think insecurities might be one of the methods that we use to deal with disappointments. Its like we are better prepared to deal with a situation if it happens.

To me bragging/boasting means saying some things in a negative way..negative competition…. Also the subject being spoken/bragged also matters, if its something of insignificant consequence it might be just for fun purposes (playing around .. nothing serious).
So I think he might be doing more of sharing of thoughts as compared to negative bragging. Competing with you might be unknowingly or for fun purposes. If the competition is related to a ‘topic’ (if that’s what you meant by verbal/linguistic competition), it might be that he really is trying hard to communicate what and why he thinks about something. Its like till now he thought he was right of what he thought of something and now he is getting a different perspective from someone else (Proving one’s point – generally we don’t fall into such situations, however sometimes I do try to reason my ideas).

Other thing about he trying to ‘impress’ you by saying things. I am not sure if I can provide any insight on that front. Maybe yes, maybe no.

Other thing is trying to change oneself of known limitations. Like a person not being confident, might try to take steps of building confidence by doing things. Like in our office networking is emphasized a lot and being a quiet person I may not tend to do that. However it being a job and career thing, I try to network (though its like not acting yourself). I see the good in it from career perspective and I try to change some things. (am not saying that I will be a dynamic personality by doing this, as one’s nature will be what it is to be .. its just done with some purpose in mind).

Anyways hope I was able to explain what I wanted to.

IP: Logged

Belage
Knowflake

Posts: 435
From: California
Registered: Apr 2009

posted April 21, 2007 01:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Unpredictable and revolutionary-acting transiting Uranus has been going back and forth on his Mercury in Pisces. That explains why he is expressing himself in ways that will shock you and even himself. Since he also has Pisces sun at 24, a couple of years from now, transiting Uranus will be conjunct his sun, so be prepared for more unpredictability from him.

That coupled with the fact that we also have transiting Jupiter squaring his natal Mercury and current transiting Uranus. When Jupiter squares or opposes planets and aspects, it creates excessiveness.

IP: Logged

LILYGIRL
unregistered
posted April 23, 2007 09:43 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks guys, both of your. I am just getting to this and apologize. Belage, I do think URANUS Mercury is part of it, but I am not sure ; he does have mars aqua oppose leo uranus natally as well.

Villy you're very sweet to write so much. I have read it over and over again. Much of it resonates, but I am not sure what's going on with him. And I think I am having a bit of a bad day. Some days I just long for his words, and if I don't see them, read them, it's a dull ache. It's all very foolish and foolhardy. He met my little one at the last meeting and I think it was a bit startling. Seeing me in the tender mother role.

Anyway, your comment about if "it's just a friendship..."well this is just that--only that so maybe he just feels like he can't go but so deep. Meanwhile I have my heart dug in.

Bragging may not be the best word at any rate. He has been teasing me a bit. It's like the boy who used to pull my pony tails in third grade. LOL. One minute he is staring at me so hard I think a spot might burrow and flame through me and the next he is teasing. I am perenially confused.

IP: Logged

villy
unregistered
posted April 24, 2007 09:49 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
“…maybe he just feels like he can't go but so deep. Meanwhile I have my heart dug in.”
I think he might or may not be in the same boat like you, however having the shy nature (along the realities of life/ideals) he might oscillate. I always feel, this to be a step by step process for us, we want others also to take steps, else we stand back .. maybe take a step back.. and maybe take a step forward again sometime later. It’s the synchronization of steps on both sides which might be lead to the new state of relation.

I guess he is kind of flirting. I have not many instances to flirt, however once I did kind of similar thing, when I was in a gay mood (probably it was also due to me thinking that if she is flirting with me, let me also get back to her...its like thinking, 'lets play the game if thats what u want').

I am sure he would also be constant state of flux (if he has feelings for you), of what to do or not to do. I am not sure that for a Pisces how easy/hard it is to control emotions (not short term, but prolonged interaction ones).

Also hope your Aries Venus (hope I recollect correctly), like mine, is not causing the instant attractions.

I have found myself easily getting attracted at the same time easily loosing the same (with no deep feelings). However this is only for unknown females (I mean couple of meetings or none). If something like Sag incident comes into picture or where constant interaction is present, its bit difficult to get out of the feelings faster. (Not sure which trait colors what - my Aries Venus/Moon or Pisces Sun)

Hope the everything turns out clam soon.

IP: Logged

LILYGIRL
unregistered
posted April 24, 2007 10:17 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Villy. I have an Aries Moon and Mars but for better or worse, I have my 5th house Venus in traditional TAURUS. It forms a trine to my respectable responsible Saturn. And that venus makes me extremely feminine despite my gemini verbal high jinx. It has always, always made me shy of the opposite sex, very reticent emotionally and sexually until I really know someone. If I sense I can trust you (so few persons) then I am completely unguarded and too unbridled and hyper-enthused (sparkly happy). I have always felt protected by him, hence the recent years' lowering of the formal guard.

I did not, however, start feeling strongly about him until 2005--that was 8 years into knowing him and seeing him four times a year. And I was feeling very vulnerable. It was when he said he would never let anything happen to me that I sort of fell down the proverbial rabbit hole. The fact that he allowed me to cross over his boundaries when technically he should not have (emails, gifts etc)made us closer.

It is a bit of a dance as you intimate with much back and forth. But I think it only works because both of us know neither of us is going to step over this invisible line.

And unfortunately I think I confuse him. Like, I gave him really lovely thoughtful birthday gifts this year but he knows my family helped delivering them. (He wrote that I really made his day.) I have to do that to protect myself. And he is the same I think. So if he is waiting for the other (me) to do anything spectacularly overtly erotically untoward, it just may not happen until we are 75.

IP: Logged

AcousticGod
Knowflake

Posts: 4416
From: Pleasanton, CA
Registered: Apr 2009

posted April 25, 2007 12:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I love swagger. It's right up there with moxie. Great words.

IP: Logged

villy
unregistered
posted April 25, 2007 06:56 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
**dance** LOL

IP: Logged

All times are Eastern Standard Time

next newest topic | next oldest topic

Administrative Options: Close Topic | Archive/Move | Delete Topic
Post New Topic  Post A Reply
Hop to:

Contact Us | Linda-Goodman.com

Copyright © 2011

Powered by Infopop www.infopop.com © 2000
Ultimate Bulletin Board 5.46a