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NAM
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posted April 17, 2007 10:44 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It seems almost every thread I read about possible compatibility between man/woman has always a negative side to it...
"yes, it can work out but the moon in you makes the gemini in him run from you"<--- bad example
But, you guys know I am not up to speed with all the astrology meanings so i am just making a dummy example!

Can we instead of meeting a guy and looking at his chart to see if we are compatible, can we instead look at ours and look for what we would be compatible in people.
i am not sure how to explain this but....for example:
If I am a Cancer and I like a home buddy that loves to cook then i would look for another Cancer with certain placements that i know are the attributes I am looking for?

damn.... it has been a very very long day and i am not sure if i am getting across this computer with my words tonight.... I am very tired...i hope I don't confuse anyone.

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cat71
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posted April 17, 2007 10:54 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think we do it the other way round cos it's hard to go to a bar, find someone we think is attractive and bring our list out and go "Hi I'm a Libra and I need someone who likes to travel, has a good relationship with his mother and hates people who pick their nose - so how do you compare to that, oh and by the way what sign is your Chiron in?"

But I do get your point so - I'll give it a go...
I have Mars in Aqua in 9th so would I translate that to 'I need a guy who is unusual in his approach to life, is spontaneous and loves long distance travel'?
Is that how it works?

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NAM
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posted April 17, 2007 11:09 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
CAT71~Well you could just write in your forhead what you are and other people could see it and see if they fit them LOL


I knew that

but i still wanted to give it a shot, besides what does being compatible have to do with love?
does it or not?
Can they be interlocked somehow, like we are really attracted to the ones we can love?


anyway... too many questions....and I am still going to bed by myself tonight LOL

besides, i need to know me better in astrology to know what I need to make me a whole.... But! are we suppose to end up as a whole?


I wonder what part of my chart says I like to ask to many questions, i think i read somewhere it was the sagitarius ascendant that makes me analize all possible scenarios to suceed in whatever I am doing LOL

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InLoveWithLife
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posted April 17, 2007 11:12 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
NAM, the trouble with that is that we often don't know what we want. I know for myself that the people I have been most strongly attracted to have been those who would have never tallied up with my 'list', mostly because my list itself was flawed and incomplete.

But hey, that could also be because I have Uranus in Scorpio in 5th house

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posted April 17, 2007 11:17 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I want to know if that Mars in the 9th is responsible for my attraction to 'Bad Boys'??? Is it the individuality that I go for and that translates to rebel?
I do know what you mean - I was reading the nodes thread today actually and looking at north node - what moves you forward - and my north node is in Aqua - so as I understand it that's moving towards individuality (among other things) so maybe that's why I go for guys like that.
But I'm a hopeless romantic with Stellium in Libra in 5th house and Neptune in 7th - makes me too idealistic and put guys on pedastals - they always seem to fall off!
*sigh*

Here's a good one - I have Moon in 2nd house, so money helps me feel good emotionally - so Bill Gates might be good for me or a hard rocking Aquarian with a couple of Grammys under his belt hmmm...

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posted April 17, 2007 11:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cat - lol at the Chiron question. I mentioned Chiron the other day to my bf (who finds astrology interesting but not nearly as interesting as I find it), and he gave me the funniest look, like I'd sprouted a second head. He said he could handle me talking about suns and moons and venuses but this Chiron talk was taking it too far.

NAM - I think I get what you're saying. And if I do, I like your take on things. It's like in life in general there are people who set their eye on someone and then try to adapt themselves to that person, without even analyzing whether they actually want to become that new version of themselves. Then there are people who expect everyone else to adapt to them. Either way, people get angry and hurt and judgmental when others don't adapt in the way they want. You know, like how dare their Gemini Moon not love my Pisces Venus (or whatever). I'm really big on just accepting and appreciating who you are and who other people are and trying to find a nice fit.

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InLoveWithLife
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posted April 17, 2007 11:41 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How about 'letting things happen' ?

like you NAM, i feel that we should focus on ourselves...how we need to grow, how we could deal with things like jealousy, commitment-phobia etc etc that we might describe how we are now. its like i read somewhere, all we can do is remove the obstacles from the path of love. and then it will happen in its own time (following this is a true test of patience for me, believe me, with a gemini moon tht hates to wait).

of course i am guilty of doing both, btw, look up my chart and dream about what 'he' might be like....he would have a gemini sun tht conjunts my moon, and a scorpio moon sextiling my sun. wow, wht a lovely combination. hey wait, how about a leo with a pisces moon, isn't that luscious too ! And i look at 'prospective's charts and go...hmmm...his moon does not aspect my sun, dang !

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NAM
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posted April 17, 2007 11:42 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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NAM - I think I get what you're saying. And if I do, I like your take on things. It's like in life in general there are people who set their eye on someone and then try to adapt themselves to that person, without even analyzing whether they actually want to become that new version of themselves. Then there are people who expect everyone else to adapt to them. Either way, people get angry and hurt and judgmental when others don't adapt in the way they want. You know, like how dare their Gemini Moon not love my Pisces Venus (or whatever). I'm really big on just accepting and appreciating who you are and who other people are and trying to find a nice fit.


Interesting take , I wasn't really going for that, in love I am one of the ones that adapts until i am pushed too far and I just quit and never to look back.This is why now i want to get it right!

I couldn't have someone adapt to me(give to me all the time), I just couldn't and wouldn't like to have such power, it would not be fun! it wouldn't be challenging and if there is something i appreciatte is challenge, but it can't be the other way either.Too much challenge doesn't translate into love to me.

can we just have a happy medium? can we have balance? can we have a real soulmate? that one that fits us perfectly , not too much of one thing when we don't need it , not to little of the other when we need it most.
I feel deep inside that person exists but then I look around and find so many unhappy souls that it makes me wonder if all this "love" stuff is just something you find in a fairytale.

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NAM
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posted April 17, 2007 11:48 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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How about 'letting things happen' ?

like you NAM, i feel that we should focus on ourselves...how we need to grow, how we could deal with things like jealousy, commitment-phobia etc etc that we might describe how we are now. its like i read somewhere, all we can do is remove the obstacles from the path of love. and then it will happen in its own time (following this is a true test of patience for me, believe me, with a gemini moon tht hates to wait).


I am totally with you on that, I sometimes lok at myself and wonder why in the hell i want a relationship if I am not "where I need to be in live" to have the perfect relationship, being as a person with enough experience and wisdom to not ruin another relationship (not that i ruin my last one, but we both did in a way), being financial, but then again that is like saying i am going to wait until i have enough money to have kids (it is never enough)....so yes, i feel i still need to grow in some aspect and as soon as i think i am ready life throws me another lesson and opens my eyes to something new....
But, isn't being a couple part of growing together? why can i go through all this with someone, it seems it would be easier.

I don't know.... ah, there i go with the questions again!

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cat71
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posted April 17, 2007 11:52 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nam - * you could just write in your forhead what you are and other people could see it and see if they fit them*
Jane - * he gave me the funniest look, like I'd sprouted a second head *
ILWL - * his moon does not aspect my sun, dang !*
What are we like?

I agree about 'just letting things happen'
I definitely speculate more about these astrological things when I'm NOT in a relationship - which is often these days LOL! However I have noticed that when I look back at the ones that DIDN'T work, that the placements do actually seem to explain things alot - so maybe that's why we do it so much (for me anyway) - it's like well if that explains that, then I know what to look for in future. I mean we do have free will (like Linda always said) and that can over-ride challenging aspects, but at least if we're aware of what we are and what we need to move forward in our spiritual journey, it would make it alot easier to have the warning signs up front rather then a year down the track looking at it and going 'Oh right, now if I'd known that before...'

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InLoveWithLife
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posted April 17, 2007 11:57 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
you guys r just too funny ! lol

cat71, wow you have a way with words....i totally agree with you there. with astrology we know what we r getting ourselves into. also your observation of going to astrology when NOT in a relationship is so true !

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InLoveWithLife
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posted April 18, 2007 12:02 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
NAM, i think some lessons can only be learnt alone. for example, i have a tendency to identify too much with my partner, to the extent that sometimes i am in danger of losing my own identity. i also keep compromising, when sometimes i should not. i attribute it to sun,mars,merc, SN in the 7th house. So apparently, i need to be alone for some time in order to build a strong sense of identity first. at least that's my guess.

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cat71
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posted April 18, 2007 12:02 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ILWL - Thanx, that's a real compliment (I'm trying to get a book published )

Well must to bed now guys - it's 5am in my neck of the woods

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NAM
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posted April 18, 2007 12:02 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have never looked at the old relationship chart with my ex-husband.
I would like to know what it says but I don't know his time of birth.Can I still try and get a close idea of anything or must i have the exact time to get any answers?

I try yesterday several different times with another boy I like and it seems for that day the planets where the same on everyone I tried.Where do i find the biggest difference.
The sun sign is going to be the same regardless of the time.... the far away planets will be too right?

confused....

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NAM
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posted April 18, 2007 12:04 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Well must to bed now guys - it's 5am in my neck of the woods


wow! have a good night... or morning LOL

later !

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NAM
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posted April 18, 2007 12:08 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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NAM, i think some lessons can only be learnt alone. for example, i have a tendency to identify too much with my partner, to the extent that sometimes i am in danger of losing my own identity. i also keep compromising, when sometimes i should not. i attribute it to sun,mars,merc, SN in the 7th house. So apparently, i need to be alone for some time in order to build a strong sense of identity first. at least that's my guess.

yes, i see what you are saying, deep inside i know I am not ready right now.The waiting kills me though I have very little patience for some things, when it comes to me i like things "now" but when I am dealing with other people , helping them working ....whatever, listening... I have all the patience of the world and more.

oh well...as always i start a conversation one way and end up with other topics....
Maybe i should pick as my screen name "likes2talk" LOL

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NAM
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posted April 18, 2007 12:18 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ok, last one before i go to bed, it is starting to look like I am having a conversation by myself. *I am not crazy ,really*

i just went and played a little with different times and if I am getting this right....the houses are the ones that have the biggest inpact , the planets are going to be the same besides the ascendant?

correct?


anyway...good night.

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InLoveWithLife
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posted April 18, 2007 12:21 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
NAM, hmmm...i am thinking where do i start? to teach you astrology, ie

dont worry about the direction of the conversation...i do tht all the time !! we are here to connect, after all. we cant dictate what turn a topic might take. besides, you started this thread, so no one to police you here

hmmm, ok. so u looked up the chart for the day, did you? the only planet tht moves significantly during the course of a few hours is the moon. and well the ascendant changes. thank god for tht !!! otherwise i might not be very different from a person born on the same day but a few hours apart. so 2 of our 'big three', the moon and the ascendant, can make a whole lot of difference and add to the fun.

you can look up the chart for your ex....with just the birthdate, and taking a hypothetical time of noon. that would give an estimate of the whereabouts of his moon. the ascendant, and the houses won't be known of course. but still you can know if he had a venus square saturn aspect with you, because venus hardly moves like a degree during a day. so even without the birthtime, you can get a lot of insight.

did you find time to read up on trines and orbs?

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posted April 18, 2007 12:24 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
absolutely...!!

that's the best way to learn about the motion of the planets actually

the ascendant changes signs like every 2 hours (24 hours, 12 zodiac signs, you can do the math). it determines the house overlay. hence very important. for example a 1st house mars would behave totally different from a 12th house one. you can go to cafeastrology.com for interpretations.

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posted April 18, 2007 12:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Can we instead of meeting a guy and looking at his chart to see if we are compatible, can we instead look at ours and look for what we would be compatible in people.
i am not sure how to explain this but....for example:
If I am a Cancer and I like a home buddy that loves to cook then i would look for another Cancer with certain placements that i know are the attributes I am looking for?

Astrologically what comes to mind is that most of us can't design the perfect partner astrologically. For instance, my Moon squares my Sun, so if I satisfy compatibility with one, then I'm necessarily not satisfying compatibility with the other. I don't think that's what you're asking, though.

You're saying that you want to take all the themes of your astrological chart, and design your man according to that, which is really what you'd try to do even if you didn't have astrology to help you.

The key to relationships, as far as I can tell, is being open to trying new things. The easiest mistake for anyone to make in a relationship is trusting their own judgment. You always go for what you think you want, and every time it comes out wrong.

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

I believe the key to finding the right person is simply trying out any reasonable possibility. Let yourself be surprised. A homebuddy who loves to cook could be a Cancer, a Capricorn, a Taurus, a Scorpio, a Pisces, or any other sign that has a lot of energy in any of these areas. You never know what you're going to come up with. It's possible that while a homebody is nice, a person that enjoys entertaining at home [like a Leo], is more fun and fulfilling, and maybe even brings out some of your talents that you might not have had a means to express otherwise.

There are all kinds of possibilities. You just have to be open to them. In the end a friendly relationship is easier to manage than a passionate one. Ok, rant over.


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NAM
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posted April 18, 2007 12:28 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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did you find time to read up on trines and orbs?



oh no! I am bad

I have been training all week so no, i am not going to lie...but I will i promise.

But, yes, i knew the Moon as well was one of the ones that would have the biggest impact...I think I am getting it hehe
at least the astrology101 part LOL
i can even recognize the symbols now


ok...bed now... I have been meaning to call his mother and find out what his birthtime was, after all he is the father of my children so might as well look it up.

oh, you guys have the "forum police" over here too? too funny it never fails !!! I go to another forum and it is the same thing LOL


ok, ok... till tomorrow...

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posted April 18, 2007 12:29 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Acoustic, man i so envy you....you just managed to nail down the key issue here why don't i have this clear headed cappy common sense? or is that your virgo moon with its superior analytical abilities, which is making my gemini moon go

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posted April 18, 2007 12:29 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hey Cat!

You asked if ur position of Mars is the responsible for your attraction to "bad boys".

And (maybe it's just a coincidence), but I my mars is in the 9th as well (but in scorpio), and I def like the 'bad boy' type. I'm attracted to the mysterious and dark with an intelligent mind.

NAM,
You put your chart in one of my threads the other day, and I do remember you had 3 planets in your 7th house, so there's a 'need, an emphasis to share/find a 'partner' to share ur life with.

And regarding ur question of using our charts as tools to see if with what kind of ppl we are compatible; I think that our birth charts can give us some insight about what we 'want'/desire in a partner and in a synastry we can see if we are comaptible or not. Though at the end, it's our choice and it's in our will to make it work (or not) no matter what astrology says.

That's my take on it - *can*t sleep and felt like talking*

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NAM
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posted April 18, 2007 12:32 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
AG~ I'll get to you tomorrow
Nice post though... I am wondering if without knwing I am a bit insane LOL

nah!

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NAM
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posted April 18, 2007 12:35 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
damnit now you guys come out...that's it... I have a long day tomorrow.... must sleep!

I will send this and not read anything else LOL

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