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jane
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posted May 01, 2007 06:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted May 01, 2007 07:21 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i dont know much about psyche or eros only their very basic interpretations..i have psyche exactly conjunct my DC at 11virgo. I wonder what this could mean..hmmm

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posted May 01, 2007 09:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dani California     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
According to cafeastrology.com, my Eros is in Cancer, same sign as my venus. And my psyche is in taurus.

I'm also interested in these two. Hmmm, wonder what it means??? I definitely identify with the Eros in Cancer & a little with the taurus........

More investigation needed!!

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posted May 01, 2007 10:16 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When I looked up Psyche(Which I'd never paid any attentiom to...),I found that my Psyche conj my partner's Asc in Cancer,and his Psyche conj my Asc in Gemini.I thought that was interesting.I don't know if it is a good thing or not,though...

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posted May 01, 2007 10:32 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mine is in gemini in my 1st house. It's in opposition to neptune and jupiter - don't know what that means, but it sounds terrible.

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posted May 01, 2007 01:11 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Psyche (and Eros even) is in Sagittarius in my 2nd house

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Sun: Libra
Asc: Libra
Moon: Capricorn
Merc: Scorpio
Venus: Scorpio
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Dani California
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posted May 01, 2007 01:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dani California     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmm, how do I go about finding out where these two are in my chart? and what the aspects are??

Now I'm intrigued!!

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posted May 01, 2007 01:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mine's in Scorpio and Pluto's already strong in my chart to begin with. Psyche even conjuncts my own Pluto! My bf's a Scorpio but my Psyche doesn't conjunct his sun although it does conjunct his saturn.

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posted May 01, 2007 01:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Psyche is Asteroid #16 and Eros is #433.
Kim Falconer says the Psyche-Eros midpoint is a very sensitive spot.....

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Eros in Sagittarius 5th house conjuncts Neptune and that explains my romantic dreamy erotic nature. Psyche is in Aquarius 7th house conjuncts astroid Amazone and the descedant. And in relationships, I have an Amazone soul, the feeling of not needing a man because I feel like I can handle almost anything easily without a man.

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Sun/Aries
Moon/Taurus
Leo Ascedant.

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MoonDreamer81
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posted May 01, 2007 02:04 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How or where do you find all these midpoints?Like Sun/Moon midpoint or Eros/Psyche Midpoint?I have all the locations,just not the midpoints between the two.

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posted May 01, 2007 02:21 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moon,

Go to http://www.noendpress.com/pvachier/midpoints/index.php .
Hey, that Psyche-Ascendant double whammy is HUGE! Do you feel you have a deep, intuitive, even psychic bond with your Virgo guy? With that double whammy, I would imagine you guys could actually read each other's minds!!! Please check asteroid Telephus, as well.
Take care!

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posted May 01, 2007 02:41 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Uhm... found another double whammy with my guy: Eros/Psyche conj Mars . Yeah, he likes me! He has to!!
I also have the midpoint conjunct my Ascendant hehe. And Pallas and Hera - favourite godesses . Now, if I could only find my sex-appeal... where did I put it??
My guy's midpoint is conjunct his North Node. He's sexy, but he thinks women don't like him... Something's fishy about this midpoint... But I kinda knew we both have a huge sex drive hehe. Time will tell .

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posted May 01, 2007 02:51 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok, my Eros is in Pisces, conjunct asteroid Osiris. I am quite romantic, faithful and don't get engaged in casual relationships - serios or we have nothing to talk about.
Psyche has always fascinated me. I have it in Scorpio, conj the MC, in opposition to Chiron. Hopefully, in 2 years I will be a pediatric psychiatrist. I want to read people's minds, I am fascinated by misteries and the occult. I'm not shallow and I do not rest until I don't figure out what makes you tick.

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posted May 01, 2007 07:58 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yea Izo...we're always finishing each others sentances and like listening to the same songs at the same time!I guess now I know why!I'm goin to check that link you gave about midpoints right now!!THANKS!!

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posted May 01, 2007 08:15 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmmm..well..Seems my Sun/Moon midpoint conjunct his NN at 18 Leo!Thats gotta be significant!And his Sun/Moon Midpoint opposes my Eros within 1 degree.Gosh!As soon as I think I know it all,something else pops up that I gotta research!LOL

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posted May 01, 2007 08:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From Dr Z the Zodiac Master:
http://thezodiac.com/soulmates2.htm

6. Immortal Lovers (Ooh baby, ooh baby)
Now here's one you probably haven't heard of before...

The Immortal Lovers clue concerns the minor asteroids named Eros and Psyche. If this is a relationship between a male and female -- then first look for the male's birth Eros conjuncting the female's birth Psyche. This even appears to work with sign conjunctions which aren't in orb. In my experience, finding this cross aspect between lovers is fairly rare... at the same time, finding a double whammy between family members seems to be rather common (which is sort of a scary thought, but consistent with many of the differing theories on reincarnation).

Bringing it down a notch, this also seems to work fairly well with (in orb) aspect oppositions and squares. Then, to a much, much, much lesser degree, it can work with trines and sextiles. (Although, as a strong general rule I don't consider trines and sextiles when comparing Eros and Psyche.)

Then... check to see if anything's up between the female's birth Eros and male's birth Psyche. Finding a double whammy cross aspect between lovers (involving conjunctions, oppositions and squares) is rare...

Paul's Eros was in aspect opposition Linda's Psyche and Linda's Eros was sign conjunct Paul's Psyche (another double whammy).

For those folks interested in checking for cross aspects between Eros and Psyche, the only software packages I know of that can calculate Eros and Psyche (such as Solar Fire 4) are a wee bit expensive. So a less expensive alternative is the free Astrodienst Online Chart Service which offers an option for manually adding in any of the asteroids.

Zane Stein (the Chiron Man) recommends Kim Falconer's site http://www.zanestein.com/eros.htm

EROS
Love is definitely the province of this little body. Find Eros in a person's twelfth house and you almost always find someone who wants love, wants to be loved so much, yet who finds themselves always either without someone to love, or in a love situation that brings them great pain. Find Eros in a person's first house, though, and you find someone who has a lot of love to give and who meets each new person with the desire to share this feeling. Initially at least this type has a non-discriminatory approach to people and wants to be close to everyone.

Eros is definitely love, touch, and affection, but it also has a great deal to do with physical love. If the rest of the chart does not contradict, a strong Eros gives a strong need for physical contact with others, especially sex. It can also add charisma, and the ability to charm almost anyone. (This is especially noticeable with Eros conjunct the ascendant. Such a person charms instantly and has what seems to be almost total emotional openness.)

The word 'erotic' comes from Eros, and this is a big factor in the lives of people with close Eros aspects. It is not uncommon to find that a person with a close Eros conjunct Sun, Moon, Venus or Mars is quite promiscuous, or has been for a partof his/her life.

My research verifies Dr. Lehman's observation that "If one person's Eros makes an aspect to another person's planet, the Eros person is smitten with the Planet person." But I have also found the planet person often returns the feeling, even if his Eros makes no aspect in reciprocation.

Mythologically, Eros (love) was in love with Psyche (soul). Eros shows a longing for completeness, and gives clues to finding one's 'soulmate.'

Eros can often be the force of love which changes someone's life. For example: John's Eros is exactly square to Mary's ascendant. She had been trying to break a particular bad habit all of her life but with no success. Shortly after she met him, he told her he would be happier if she no longer gave in to the temptation. She was able to break her habit very quickly, and never started up again during the whole very intense relationship.

In transits, what Eros tends to bring are sudden attractions, erotic feelings, thoughts and dreams. But unless other factors also come into play, nothing significant will usually result.

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Kim Falconer has an excellent website, with several pages on Eros, as well as book on the subject. The name of the site is: Astrology, Mythology, Asteroids & Quantum Physics. Head there, and read all she has to say on Eros. And then, check out the rest of her site as well!
http://www.falconastrology.com/
A string at Kim's forum: http://erosastrology.proboards26.com/index.cgi?board=syn&action=display&thread=1084435462&page=1

A Llewellyn article from February:
http://www.llewellynjournal.com/article/1303

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thedividedsky
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posted May 01, 2007 10:54 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
his eros/psyche midpoint conjunct my ascendant (both at 6 deg)

my eros/psyche midpoint conjunct his MC (wide 4 deg orb)


I was trying to find some writings on psyche and came across this....

http://www.llewellynjournal.com/article/1303

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posted May 01, 2007 11:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Psyche is sitting on my Mars/Uranus midpoint at 10 degrees Scorpio.

My Eros is also in water at 18 degrees Pisces.

My Psyche/Eros midpoint is at Capricorn 14 degrees two degrees away from my Jupiter at 16.

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"If one person's Eros makes an aspect to another person's planet, the Eros person is smitten with the Planet person."

My Eros is square my girlfriend's Sun, sextile her (8th house) Virgo Pluto and Capricorn Mars, and conjunct her Chiron (and Eros).

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posted May 02, 2007 01:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moon - That Psyche-Asc double whammy sounds lovely!

Zala - Thanks for posting all that info on Eros and Psyche. I've never read that Llewellyn article, gotta check that out.

Mustang - I'm sorry, but the way you phrased your post cracked me up, so pessimistic! Are you a Cap?

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posted May 02, 2007 01:28 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Umm..

My Psyche is conjunct my Asc in my 12th house- Scorpio
My Eros is conjunct my Venus and Uranus in 11th house, Libra.

I am going to investigate... but this doesn't look good (looks pretty dull...)

MK

Edited to add- I read the Llewelyn article, and the Psyche example they give is me.

Freaky.

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posted May 02, 2007 01:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Motherkonfessor - actually, I've read that Eros conjunct Venus makes someone a total sex bomb. And Uranus must heat things up even more. Oh, that didn't sound good.

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posted May 02, 2007 07:39 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I looked up the Psyche-Eros connections with my wife.

Her Ascendant and Mars trine my Psyche, 1 degree orb.

Her Eros and my Eros are in Capricorn but not conjunct.

Her Psyche is Quincunx My Psyche with a 2 degree orb. Her Psyche also trines my Moon and Pluto with a 2 degree orb and squares Uranus with a 1 degree orb.

Her Eros trines my Psyche with a 2 degree orb.

My Eros conjuncts her Neptune and sextiles her Sun, Pluto and Karma. 1 degree orb.

Thus, there are several valid cross links.

Note that these are in addition to the Valentine-True Node double whammy and Composite Isis conjunct Composite Osiris in our charts.

While checking in my parents chart, I found that their Eros and Psyche have only one connection: Mother's Mars trine Dad's Psyche exact. Also, composite chart has Valentine exact trine Pluto.
Interestingly, I just noticed that my parents composite True Node is exactly conjunct my South Node.

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posted May 02, 2007 08:00 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
==OFFTOPIC==

Iq,
how does an Isis-Osiris conjunction in the Davison chart sound? Legit or not? They're 6 minutes apart, and they both oppose my natal Juno and square his natal Juno (they also conjunct his Moon).
And how about an Isis/Osiris midpoint?

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posted May 02, 2007 11:10 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Our only significant double whammy...

my Eros in Aries opposite his Psyche in Libra
his Eros/Mars in Scorp conjunct my Psyche in Scorp

Both have 2-deg orbs. Our Eros' land in each other's 4th houses. 'Immortal Lovers.' Nice.

Our Psyches also aspect each other Moons.

Is there a diff in effect between conjunctions, oppositions, and squares b/w Eros and Psyche?

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