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Topic: Sunrise and 12th House...I don't get it
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InLoveWithLife unregistered
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posted May 27, 2007 06:49 PM
A person born at or just after sunrise would have their sun in the 12th house. And i have difficulty grasping this idea.How can the 12th house represent 'hidden' things when it is actually so visible ?!!Similarly, just before rising, Sun is found in the 1st house, when it is still hidden from view. It seems very counter-intuitive to me. IP: Logged |
MUSTANG unregistered
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posted May 27, 2007 07:02 PM
The Sun rises in the East, right. The 12th house is on the Eastern side of the chart. The horizon is the line down the middle. ------------------ Sun Aqua, Moon Sagg, Asc Taurus IP: Logged |
taurus/gemini cusp Newflake Posts: From: Registered:
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posted May 27, 2007 07:03 PM
Yeah I agree - that's weird!!! Coz it goes counter clockwise with the house system doesn't it?!IP: Logged |
MUSTANG unregistered
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posted May 27, 2007 07:07 PM
Maybe this will help. http://www.mountainastrologer.com/standards/new_to_astro/beginners/4.html ------------------ Sun Aqua, Moon Sagg, Asc Taurus IP: Logged |
MoonDreamer81 unregistered
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posted May 27, 2007 07:22 PM
Yep....Sun in 12th(Taurus) here!I was born at 7:13 AM.------------------ S:Taurus ASC:Gemini M:Scorpio IP: Logged |
InLoveWithLife unregistered
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posted May 27, 2007 08:41 PM
No, i understand about the geometry. what has me confused is the logic behind the 12th house representing hidden things.IP: Logged |
afroken unregistered
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posted May 28, 2007 12:44 AM
People said 12th house sun is usually linked to all the tragic things. Something to do with the father figure. May have great strength. And will blossom when they progress to the first house. But im wondering when will it ever progress to the first house because the asc and the sun progress at around the same speed, one degree per year.Im still trying to understand this placement. ------------------ Sun in Scorpio Moon in Taurus Asc in Sagittarius IP: Logged |
InLoveWithLife unregistered
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posted May 28, 2007 10:01 AM
did nobody get my question? IP: Logged |
MoonDreamer81 unregistered
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posted May 28, 2007 10:41 AM
Good question Afroken!I wanna know that as well.I'm waiting for my Sun to move out of the 12th house!It's SO depressing.I have the unfortunate placement of Venus in the 12th as well. ------------------ S:Taurus ASC:Gemini M:Scorpio IP: Logged |
wilsontc unregistered
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posted May 28, 2007 11:26 AM
Afroken,You asked: quote: 12th house sun...will blossom when they progress to the first house. But im wondering when will it ever progress to the first house because the asc and the sun progress at around the same speed, one degree per year.
This is not about the progressed chart by itself. This is about the progressed chart AROUND the birth chart. Put the progressed chart around the birth chart and, when the Sun progression degree is greater than the birth degree of the Ascendant, the Sun will have "progressed" into the 1rst house. Explaining, Tim IP: Logged |
wilsontc unregistered
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posted May 28, 2007 11:27 AM
ILWL,That is why astrology is "metaphysical"...because it is beyond the physics that make up the chart! Metaphysically, Tim IP: Logged |