posted June 02, 2007 04:17 AM              

the part of marriage confuses me.

I did the calculation according to an online calculator, and it said my PoM was on 7°54 Taurus.
But now I also did the calculation with the software AStrowin and it sais: 06°08 Cancer.
Which one is the right one? How do I calculate it the right way? I checked some other charts and the Part of Marriages were the same in AStrowin and the online calculator.
Also, the Part of Fortune stayed the same.

But I have another question:
Why are there so many part of marriages?
There are part of marriage, part of marriage woman and part of marriage man?
What is their difference in meaning?
And how important are they in a natal chart or synastry anyway?

On a side note: I saw that this actor`s part of marriage, man is square my Karma by 0°22
and that my
part of marriage, woman is opposite his Karma by 0°46. (calculation with astrowin)
Do you think that has any significance?
Well, if it has, I`m sure it`s pretty horrible, due to the square and opposition.

EDIT:
If I calculate with Noe-arabic-parts-calculator, there are even 2 part of marriages for woman and 2 for man???

Well, I did the calculation,
and now it`s

My part of marriage woman (1) conjuncts his Karma (0°48)
His part of marriage man (1) squares my Karma (0°21)

Also, my part of marriage man (2) conjuncts his Karma (1°25)

I saw that the part of marriage woman (1) is calculated with ASC, Saturn and Venus;
the part of marriage woman (2) is calculated with ASC, Mars and Moon.
Does that mean the part of marriage woman is more important in a male chart, because it includes the female planets Venus and Moon? Like it does say something about his ANIMA?

And the part of marriage man (1) is calculated with Venus and Saturn, and with Venus and Sun.
Hmm, the presence of Sun could hint at the ANIMUS in a woman, couldn`t it?
But why Saturn?
I`m completely confused now.

Oh but just in case it could be significant, I think I found another DW with Part of marriage.

His Part of marriage woman (1) trine my Valentine (0°33)
My Part of marriage man (1) sextiles his Valentine (0°18)

Thank you

posted June 02, 2007 05:04 AM              

Others will create confusion. I dont believe in an absolutely precse POM, this is just a conjecture. POM should be taken as a simple guideline. When a man's Sun, Moon or Asc are exactly conjunct POM, the probability of marriage increases.

This is the right way to analyze. Probabilities and Possibilities than absolutes.

posted June 02, 2007 05:14 AM              

But I guess, part of marriage or even asteroids come second to the main planets.
Would you count True Node to the main objects to consider?
And I saw your list of important planets to look out for and I notice Neptune was missing there. Is there a particular reason for leaving out Neptune, but including Pluto?

posted June 05, 2007 12:20 AM            

My PoM is in Aquarius in my 4th house. Natally, it widely conjuncts my Psyche and Pallas conjunction (5) and squares my Mercury in Scorpio (0). It seems accurately placed for me. It is very important for me to feel strongly bonded (4th house) with my partner while retaining my independence (Aquarius). From what I've checked, my boyfriend's chart doesn't make any aspects to my PoM. Our composite makes a few aspects though: our Venus conjuncts it (1) and our Saturn squares it (1). Is it legit to compare composites to Arabic parts?

Natally, my boyfriend's PoM is in Leo in his 5th house. It opposes his Moon (3) and Saturn (1). It also conjuncts his Mars, Angel asteroid, and my Name asteroid (~1). In synastry, my Juno conjuncts his PoM (2) and my Karma sextiles it (0).

posted June 07, 2007 04:36 AM              

yes, I agree to what you said about Neptune and Pluto.
I just noticed, that Neptune seems to play an important, even though not always easy, role in important relationships; relationships that feel like they have soulmate-potential, but I agree, that sometime that feeling deceives you. There can be a lot of illusions and later on disillusions coming with that aspect.
I once knew someone, with whom I shared a DW of Neptune conjunct AC (both conjunctions were under 1°), and initially I thought he was the ONE, but he wasn`t. So much for Neptune.

posted June 07, 2007 06:06 AM              

I have a question concerning the sets of asteroids.

Does it make more sense to compare each set to its own planets?
for example: comparing Amor, Cupid, Psyche and Eros with each other, but not with Anubis, Isis, Osiris and the other Egyptians?

But if this is so, are there asteroids I can compare with all the other asteroids?
I am thinking of Karma and Valentine, maybe also Amor (but not sure about this one, because Amor belongs to Roman mythology).

Also, if there are 4 synastric aspects between Isis and Osiris comparing natal-natal, draconic - draconic, draconic-natal, natal-draconic, would you say this could be an indicator of soulmates? (of course only if the main objects are connected to each other, too. I didn`t forget about step 1. ).

Thanks.

posted June 07, 2007 11:50 PM            

His Cupid is conj my Pluto and my Cupid is conj his Pluto.

His Eros is conj my Part of Firtune and my Eros is trining his Pluto.

My Psyche is conjunct his Vertex and his Psyche is conjunct my Mercury and Mars.

My Karma looosely conj his Chiron and square his Jupiter opposing Uranus. His Karma squares my sun and my Saturn (t square) and square my Uranus. But sextiles (to degree) my Venus. And trines my Lilith.