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alanabelle86 Knowflake Posts: 40 From: Somewhere over the rainbow Registered: May 2009
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posted June 05, 2007 11:48 AM
Prepare to be outraged quote: Woman 'throws baby down rubbish chute, kills her' * * Email * Print * Normal font * Large font June 5, 2007 - 7:02AM AdvertisementAdvertisement An Iowa woman has been charged with killing her newborn daughter by tossing her down a Florida hotel rubbish chute from the seventh floor. Ashley Truitt, 18, was being held without bond on one count of murder, Broward County sheriff's officials said. Truitt told police she hid her pregnancy from her parents and boyfriend. They were all staying at the Wyndham Resort on Saturday when authorities found a bloody kitchen knife in the hallway and the newborn's body in a rubbish bin. Truitt said she gave birth in the bathroom, using the knife to cut the umbilical cord. She then put the baby in a plastic bag with some bath towels and threw it down the rubbish chute, authorities said. An autopsy performed yesterday found the newborn died from blunt trauma to the head, likely from being dropped in the chute. http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2007/06/05/1180809461884.html
I know this stuff happens all the time. That's the freaking problem. Stories like this make me really want to hate *people*. Though I know it's not people as a whole, but a poor innocent newborn child? What an OUTRAGE! And how saddening... that poor poor child. Someone should through the mother down a chute and see how she likes it. What the hell is happening to our humanity? I feel like too many people are just wasting their gifts of life and feel so arrogant as to take the life of another into their own hands when it suits them... ------------------ "I eat success for breakfast-- with skim milk!"
Sagittarius AC, Sun in Scorpio, Moon in Leo
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Morghedia Newflake Posts: 0 From: Texas Registered: Jan 2010
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posted June 05, 2007 12:06 PM
This is just horrible! The poor innocent soul I just have to have faith that Karma will get people like this in the end...three-fold. ------------------ You must be the change you wish to see in the world ~ Ghandi IP: Logged |
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posted June 05, 2007 12:07 PM
This makes me sick!!------------------ S:Taurus ASC:Gemini M:Scorpio IP: Logged |
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posted June 05, 2007 12:09 PM
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posted June 05, 2007 12:17 PM
This things make me wanna shoot that somebodies who arent nothing - they arent true human beings when treat poor innocent childs like this - they deserve to suffer a lot. I know its not right to wish warm to anyone,but on these matters my sense of justice just explodes IP: Logged |
lalalinda Moderator Posts: 1120 From: nevada Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 05, 2007 05:59 PM
People like that have given me nightmares for years. This is why we have new laws that say you can not get in any trouble if you just walk into any Hospital, Fire Station, or Police station and just hand over your baby and walk out. You do not have to say any thing.
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lalalinda Moderator Posts: 1120 From: nevada Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 05, 2007 06:00 PM
Hello and Welcome Morghedia
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stillatlarge Newflake Posts: 16 From: TX Registered: Nov 2010
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posted June 05, 2007 06:59 PM
Well, there is the possibility of post partum psychosis or mental illness. The punk in Galveston who put his 2 mo. old daughter in the microwave after beating her in the groin area and putting her in the refrigerator is the one that makes me glad I'm not a cop. I would've pepper sprayed him, tasered him in the crotch, beat the he-l out of him and then I would've hurt him. I would also like 5 minutes with the baby's mother who let it happen and now refuses to leave him. She wants custody of the little girl if you can believe it. You know what makes me sick about the excuses they make for guys like that is, that it's funny that "temper" is always under control with someone bigger than them and it only seems to come out against a woman or child. That's one I hope they put in general population and tell the other inmates what he did. IP: Logged |
lalalinda Moderator Posts: 1120 From: nevada Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 05, 2007 07:12 PM
stillatlarge, a woman after my own heart. I like your style 10 minutes with her and a loooong half an hour with him could make me forget I am a lady.You Rock. IP: Logged |
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posted June 05, 2007 07:16 PM
I read about her in the paper this morning. It's so sad, and makes me angry too. The thing I never understand in these cases is HOW can the parents not know? I mean they suspected that she was pregnant, why not take her to the doctor and get her examined?!?------------------ After silence, that which comes nearest to expressing the inexpressible is music." - Aldous Huxley IP: Logged |
Missa Newflake Posts: 14 From: Registered: Dec 2009
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posted June 05, 2007 08:14 PM
Hiding your pregnancy and killing the child? Why didn't she just do an abortion, if she knew it would end up like this? Or give the child for adoption? It would have been better for everyone. In case she is seriously mentally ill, which is a possibility judging from her actions, then this is just a truly sad case. But I can't help wondering why no one close to her tried to do anything? *shakes head*IP: Logged |
BlueRoamer Knowflake Posts: 95 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 05, 2007 09:03 PM
I honestly don't feel like it is any of our place to judge this person.SHe may come from a very religious family that would have disowned her for being pregnant out of marriage or having a divorce. This girl was young, 18, a teenager, she was still immature and doens't understand the repurcussions of her actions. I'm not saying what she did wasn't wrong, I'm simply saying that we aren't really in any place to judge her actions. As a male, I will never be pregnant and I will never know what it is like to be in this girl's situation. I think people are too quick to judge a person's actions when they do not know what it is like to be in that situation. IP: Logged |
stillatlarge Newflake Posts: 16 From: TX Registered: Nov 2010
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posted June 05, 2007 09:05 PM
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alanabelle86 Knowflake Posts: 40 From: Somewhere over the rainbow Registered: May 2009
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posted June 05, 2007 09:26 PM
I'm not judging her. Okay maybe I am.It's cruel. Religion and upbringing only goes so far. Where does human decency come into play? I mean, I have compassion for her, I do. But as far as judging goes, she's only on one side of the scale in my mind. It seems pretty selfish to do that to an innocent soul who did not ask to be brought into this world. If she was raped, she could have gotten help. If she wasn't, well you know the story. I know it's different when you're in the person's shoes...and yada yada. Emotions always cloud judgment. We can throw around the ifs and buts all day, but we can also throw them around in the face of the baby lying dead at the bottom of the chute. I may not have the authoritative place to question her judgment, but as her peer... a human being, I just don't know what to say. It's appalling...
I feel for her though, as angry as this story makes me,...and I know she probably hates herself as much as the world wants to hate her. I hope someday she can come to terms with herself and forgive herself for what she's done. ------------------ "I eat success for breakfast-- with skim milk!" Sagittarius AC, Sun in Scorpio, Moon in Leo
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posted June 05, 2007 10:12 PM
When the Plum girl here in Iowa did the same thing, that's how come we have the safe laws. She regretted it too, and will for the rest of her life.Yes this girl was 18, and yes 18 yr olds are still immature inspite of being "adults" in the eyes of the law. I feel the parents are as responsible for the death of the baby, as for some reason, whatever it was, this girl wasn't able to confide in her parents or any other adult in order to have some rational thought process about what to do in her situation. She will go to jail for a good portion of her life, and forever have this follow her around. We are animals just like all the other species. We are subject to certain biological responses according to our environmental factors. When an animal population starts to grow beyond the capacity of sustainability, certain things start to happen, such as abandoning offspring, a portion of the population will experience sex changes or change in sexual orientation, in order to minimize the population growth, there will be an increase in violence between species in order to control resources. Do you see the connection here? 6 billion is a lot of one particular species... ------------------ After silence, that which comes nearest to expressing the inexpressible is music." - Aldous Huxley IP: Logged |
BlueRoamer Knowflake Posts: 95 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 05, 2007 10:22 PM
Very good points GG.You always talk the smart. Although there is no proof that population density leads to homosexuality, it is a good point. Many of us know that in China it was common practice to kill any female babies, the land simply could not support as many children as were being born. One could argue that that overpopulation does increase the likelihood that a mother will kill her child, especially if resources are scarce in that area. Another good point brought up is the issue of mental illness, abuse, drug abuse, and other social factors. We do not know what goes on in this person's life. We do not have her genetics, we were probably born into better situations. By judging this misled young lady we are contributing to a consciousness of punishment, and adding pain to an even that is already incredibly painful. However, she should still be processed under the law as a murderer, but extenuating circumstances she be taken in consideration. It is very easy to admonish people from a distance, when you know really very little about them. This issue is far too common in our society, we love to blame people so we can feel better than them. Do you really think that person could have done any different with their life? People do the best they can, and we should strive for better, but we should forgive people their misdeeds, and contribute to a karma of love and healing, not a karma of punishment, pain, and lack of mercy. IP: Logged |
alanabelle86 Knowflake Posts: 40 From: Somewhere over the rainbow Registered: May 2009
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posted June 05, 2007 10:25 PM
So it would seem.------------------ "I eat success for breakfast-- with skim milk!" Sagittarius AC, Sun in Scorpio, Moon in Leo
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posted June 05, 2007 10:26 PM
BR,Bless your loving spirit and big heart. You are right, we should send her some lovingkindness. I do feel sorry for this girl, and I hope she will come to peace with herself. BTW ~ How are you feeling these days BR? I've been thinking of you. Love, GG ------------------ After silence, that which comes nearest to expressing the inexpressible is music." - Aldous Huxley IP: Logged |
BlueRoamer Knowflake Posts: 95 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 05, 2007 10:32 PM
That is very sweet of you GG.I think of you too and always enjoy reading your posts, they reflect an educated mind and a rich heart. I am hanging in there currently, doing grad school apps and preparing for my entrance exam, a strenuous time! How are you GG? IP: Logged |
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posted June 05, 2007 11:05 PM
Thanks BR, I enjoy reading your posts as well. They usually give me a similar perspective to think about, only from a different angle. Which is good for additional insight and growth as a being. So thanks for being a catalyst. When do you have to get your applications in and where are you going to apply?I am doing really well. Some people knew this, but Bowie our youngest broke his right arm 2 weeks ago on his birthday. That was quite stressful. We've gotten our routine down now though, and he is healing wonderfully. The orthopedic surgeon says everything looks great. He was trying out his new birthday (yes he broke it on his birthday) rollerblades and decided to not listen to me when I told him not to use them outside until we had proper safety equiptment for them. He was walking up to the house and tripped. Luckily the insurance had kicked in the week before, so small blessings make all the difference. He broke both bones, and had to go under general anesthetia to get fixed. He has a glow in the dark cast cover with penguins, a pirate, a squirrel thinking of nuts, a picture of himself all better, and a butterfly courtesy of his family drawn on it. Other than that, I am just trying to get the rest of my garden in, if it would ever stop raining. ------------------ After silence, that which comes nearest to expressing the inexpressible is music." - Aldous Huxley IP: Logged |
pixelpixie Newflake Posts: 8 From: ON Canada Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 05, 2007 11:36 PM
*hugs to Bowie* (great name)*hugs her baby tighter to her body..* (whose middle name is 'Lennon' hehe....) Those stories, whatever their speculative reason make me sick in my stomach IP: Logged |
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posted June 08, 2007 11:38 AM
People defending the girl, can i just say at 18 i lived independently away from my parents in my own flat, i cooked for myself, cleaned, worked and earnt money and was in a stable relationship. I was no different then than i am now. I worked with children, 2 and 3 year olds, obviously a very demanding job. I still work in the same place. I could NEVER have reacted like that girl did to pregnancy... Sure, i agree we should be SO quick o judge, but HER AGE IS NOT AN EXCUSE IP: Logged |
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posted June 08, 2007 11:38 AM
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Astra Knowflake Posts: 243 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 08, 2007 12:51 PM
The girl is 18, not some toddler. An 18 year old understands the consequences of their actions. At age 5 I knew that you're not supposed to throw babies down chutes or abuse them in any way, so I have a hard time believing that an 18 year old has zero common sense. She's just an immature, selfish brat who doesn't even have the decency to take her baby to a hospital and leave it there if she didn't want it. I'm sorry, I have absolutely no compassion for such heartless people who kill defenseless babies. It's an incredibly selfish and cowardly thing to do. There's no punishment that's severe enough to match her crime. IP: Logged |
Venus De Milo Knowflake Posts: 167 From: Registered: Jul 2009
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posted June 08, 2007 01:29 PM
I think it's an incredible tragedy, but I do find it hard to make excuses for her or to find understanding in my heart when she could have taken the child to any police station, hospital or fire department and handed him or her over.Stories like these really impress the importance of letting your children know you love the absolutely unconditionally and that they can come to you at any time, with any problem and you will work on it together... not completely freak out, disown them, beat them, throw them out or ever stop loving them or anything else completely awful and unbearable that would make them believe an action like this is ever an option or a necessity... Wow. I find it hard to believe that child that knows he or she is truly loved unconditionally could ever do something as heinous as this. For that, I really deeply feel sorry for this girl. It's just such an incredible tragedy. If I were one of her parents, I would honestly blame myself completely. How could my child not know they could come to me? How could it be possible? It's just unfathomable for all of them. I think I will say a prayer for them and the little baby especially.. it's so heartbreakingly tragic. IP: Logged |