posted June 08, 2007 01:14 PM            

The thing that baffles me is the lack of pretty much anything going on in our synastry. We have a few exact aspects here and there, but nothing that explains the instant fast friendship we formed. I've really been taking a closer look at this and it isn't very clear to me. I really expected some stronger Moon or Mercury in there, due to our bond and great conversations... but... it's not there?!

His Pluto is on my ASC and I know this is supposed to mean I'm obsessed with him, but I'm really not.. and furthermore... most of my close friends are born in 1975/76, so all of them have Pluto sitting on my ASC.

Other than that, these are the major aspects within 1 degree:

His Pluto trine my Sun and Mars (1 & 2 orb respectively)
His Mars conjunct my Chiron (0 orb)
His Mars square my Sun & Mars (0 & 1 orb)
His Chiron square my Mercury (1 orb)

His Vertex is a 21 Libra and my Pluto is 19 Libra, but that's out of orb for the Vertex, right?

This is his chart:

This is my chart:

posted June 09, 2007 12:48 AM            

Here is the composite:

posted June 09, 2007 01:13 AM            

My bf and I have tight moon-mercury double whammies in our natal synastry and our draconic-natal synastry. We bonded very quickly and immediately felt comfortable being our true selves with one another.

Here's an interp for moon-mercury from cafeastrology.com: (I'm putting the description for moon conjunct mercury. In your composite, you have an opposition, but the moon is indicated as also being in the opp house, which would make it a conjunction.)

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You easily share personal information with each other, and probably delight in so doing. This is a chatty aspect that indicates much exchange, stimulation, and a mutual desire for variety and changes in the environment. Together, you like to keep busy, and if you share a home, the atmosphere is active and involved. You tend to be sensitive to each other's feelings and moods, and turn to each other for easy conversation. You may delight in sharing memories with one another. The female in this relationship may be quite talkative, finding a wonderful outlet in her partner. As a couple, you are involved with each other and find it quite easy to solve problems in a rational and reasonable manner.

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(I know you're uncertain of his birth time, but it's likely that this aspect would still exist with a different birth time.)

The moon jupiter trine is another good one.

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Quite simply, one of the purposes of your relationship is to BE HAPPY. Play, laughter, humor, and just feeling wonderful in each other's presence is the heart of it. You put one another in a good mood, and can cheer one another up quite easily. It will be unusual for both of you to be down for very long when you're together.

To others you will appear to be unusually blessed. You seem "gifted" together, and you will be. Uncommon good fortune and "miracles" happen to you, and as a couple you will be quite generous and willing to share the good that comes your way.

A feeling of openness, spaciousness, tolerance, and generosity towards one another permeates your bond. There is a basic sense of trust present between the two of you. This is not to say that your relationship will be free of concerns. However, at the end of the day, you maintain a fundamental trust that your partner is good-hearted and has good intentions towards you. It is amazing how you are able to feel completely recharged and encouraged after spending some time together.

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You also have a Sun-Venus aspect which indicates pure love. You have an opposition, but in composites, I tend to interpret oppositions more as conjunctions (because of how they're constructed with midpoints).

In your synastry, I'm not sure what the standard orb is for vertex aspects, but your Pluto-Vertex conjunction looks legit to me. I think it's best to go with what subjectively feels true....if this feels like a significant, transformative relationship to you, then that interaspect is felt in your relationship, regardless of whether the standard orb for the vertex is under 2 degrees. Of course, Pluto is generational, and he probably doesn't form transformative relationships with everyone in your generation (that would be exhausting ). But Pluto is more personal for you since it's in your first house, so he might feel the effects of your Pluto more than he would of someone with a less personal Pluto.

Have you checked your draconic charts? You may have significant aspects with one's draconic to the other's natal. I quickly checked out your draconic sun and moon. I noticed that your draconic moon is in Cancer, widely conjuncting his natal Sun & Moon. So that could also account for the instant bond. In fact, based on my own experience with Daconic-Natal synastry, my guess would be that this is the most significant aspect in creating your instant connection.

posted June 11, 2007 11:34 AM            

I know the composite is quite strong and "explains" the connection quite well... I just find the synastry a little baffling... I always thought synastry is what brings you together and the composite is how it plays out??? So I guess from a learning standpoint, I find the synastry kind of diminishes my faith in synastry readings. I want to explain this!

I'm definitely someone that puts what I learn from astrology in a separate box and I try (and I'm pretty good at) to take the reality of the relationship as it comes, as if I knew nothing, while I amuse myself with my astrological tinkering and hypotheses in the background, hehe. I'm an Aquarian, and probably objective to a fault, so it's not hard for me

I definitely find that the composite rings true, we were instant friends and pretty much immediately started spilling all our secrets to each other. We don't have any sexual chemistry, he is exceptionally attractive, but... I go by the kiss and he is a bad kisser (we kissed in the beginning, lol) and that's that for me. It was very awkward! He also has a lot of traits my exes have... which is fine for a friend, but I will NOT go there again romantically.

The birth time... he says is accurate, but his birth place was some really tiny town in Georgia and astro.com didn't have it, so we just entered Augusta, GA instead, since thats within 20 miles, apparently.

I'm just a little suss about the time because he is extremely superstitious and I got the info out of him when we first met, so maybe he didn't trust me. He told me he never lets girls make him "any red food"... because his grandma told him women can put their period in it to bewitch him into falling in love with them! LOL!! So it's very possible he sabotaged my astrological reading of him

posted June 11, 2007 11:57 AM            

His Valentine is at 15 Sag... I have a natal Venus/Neptune conjunction at 19 Sag.

I have Amor at 8 of Aries - he has Pluto at 6 Libra.

He has Karma at 7 Leo... I have natal Jupiter at 3 Leo and Sun/Mars at 4/5 of Aqua.

He also has Eros at 18 Libra... my Pluto is at 19 Libra.

Before anyone says it, yes we're just friends and I'm 100% sure I want to keep it that way, especially after getting to know him better. Like I said... great friend... just not going there with this type of guy again!

He felt differently for awhile and we stopped talking for a month last September, since then he's adamant he's content with my friendship, considers me a best friend and I'm happy with that too.

To put it in perspective... don't we all have that female friend we love to bits, but we all know she's batsh!t crazy when it comes to relationships?? LOL. That is this guy!

Also... this got me thinking... does this mean that Asteriods overpower everything else??? Because look... not much going on with traditional planets... but the asteriods make a lot of sense. They explain the connection. The Vertex explains it.

I'm also thinking of a friend who has incredible synastry with her current boyfriend. They are like 2 pieces of a puzzle, it seems, astrologically speaking... but no Saturn aspects.

Well (I havent fully disclosed all this to her, because I don't want astrology to interfere in her life, nor to validate what shes doing)... but there's an ex she never stops thinking about. IMO, he's toxic. But she's cheated on her current bf with the ex. It's like she's hypnotized by him. They have some nice synastry aspects, but they are no "two pieces of a puzzle" and some of their house placements are very non-romantic. They have an extraordinarily intense composite tho. BUT... the synastry with her current BF is aammmaaazzing.

The asteriods between her and her ex makes me think they are fated.

So now... with that case study and this case study with my buddy.. I am starting to believe these asteriods are overpowering. In the case of my friend... if we go with my theory... the asteriods synastry overpowers all that she has with the current bf... they have Sun/Moon/Venus aspects... Venus/Mars conjunctions and other wonderful love and sex indicators... but none of that seems to matter when it comes to the ex.

posted June 12, 2007 01:31 AM            

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He told me he never lets girls make him "any red food"... because his grandma told him women can put their period in it to bewitch him into falling in love with them!

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That's crazy! What kind of psycho would do that? Excuse me for a moment, I need to get this Bloody Janey, I mean Bloody Mary to my boyf as a nightcap.

When he talks about his grandma, does he say it like Adam Sandler in Waterboy: "My grandma says..."

I'm of Italian descent too. When you give him a piece of your famed lasagna, you should have a tampon string hang out of it! Sorry, my humor is a bit twisted.

Anyway, about the synastry...do you know how to do a Draconic chart? I'd really check that out if I were you. Your Draconic Moon in Cancer conjunct his natal Sun & Moon are huge for giving that instant connection. You may have other significant Draconic-Natal aspects too. My boyf's draconic sun and moon both conjunct my natal sun and moon, and we hit it off immediately too.

posted June 16, 2007 08:16 AM            

Not saying that you would do that, but since I put the info out there, it is my belief that casting a spell like that is wrong and you should let the universe work in it's own way and bring the right person to you. I don't think it's a coincidence that the two women I know who have done this ended up with horrible men who abused them.

posted June 16, 2007 08:44 AM            

You just made me laugh so hard about the red food (w/tampon string) I nearly spit my cereal out my nose!!

posted June 17, 2007 04:35 AM            

Zala -

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Thanks for the endorphins

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posted June 17, 2007 10:22 AM            

ROTFL!!! You are evil!!! I love it!!!