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Topic: Synastry Aspects & Houses
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Ann7
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posted June 12, 2007 06:00 PM
  
Can anyone tell me more about The moon in your partners eighth house, the moon in your partners fourth house, mars conjunct pluto & venus square mars? I'm wondering how a person would feel these aspects in their relationship with another. Thanks.  IP: Logged |
izodesmozina
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posted June 13, 2007 12:14 AM
Hi, Ann! Moon 4th house
The Moon in partner's fourth house makes for close relationships where family and domestic issues are concerned. You have strong emotional connection based on family ties or a similar early family experience. Domestic matters are at the core of your relationship. There is a strong sense of feeling "at home" together with this placement in the comparative chart. Moon 8th house
The Moon in partner's eighth house is good for business relationships and relates to the handling of joint funds in a personal relationship. In some cases, the Moon individual may stimulate interest in occult or psychic phenomena in the partner. There is apt to be a lot of emotion in this pairing and it can easily develop into an all or nothing sort of relationship. Emotional quarrels over money may erupt, especially if the cross-aspects are adverse. Venus square Mars
This combination produces a very strong sexual attraction; however, there is often a lack of real emotional compatibility and mutual consideration. The relationship can be entered into by one or both parties merely for sexual gratification, without real concern for the other party as a person. In a romantic or marital relationship, sexual jealousy and possessiveness can be a problem. This is a difficult aspect for close personal relationships, but it is often present in them because of the high degree of sexual compatibility it generates at the outset of the relationship.
www.astrology-numerology.com Mars conjunct Pluto
There is a strong conflict of wills between you. Each strongly resists any attempt at a show of authority from the other. Even in a basically positive comparison, this aspect will cause minor irritations and arguments. If the comparison is already basically negative, there can be animosity and even vindictiveness between you. Between lovers this aspect indicates the necessity for sexual adjustments. I hope these help! ------------------
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Ann7
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posted June 13, 2007 02:52 AM
Thanks! Any help is welcome I looked a lot of this stuff up and ran a few charts... I guess I'm just curious if anyone has had these in a connection with another and how it has affected them... Kind of comparing notes. But I definitely appreciate your input. IP: Logged |
jane
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posted June 13, 2007 04:00 AM
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izodesmozina
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posted June 13, 2007 06:08 AM
I could compare notes with you too... but I decided to delete personal info from my old posts and it would be weird to post new stuff now. But I wish you lots of love and harmony in your relationship!  Izo ------------------
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jane
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posted June 13, 2007 06:22 AM
Hey Izo. How ya doing?Did you delete to protect your anonymity? Or because you felt too psychologically exposed sharing personal information? Would answering these questions be too exposing?  I'm ridiculously paranoid about maintaining my anonymity online, but the way I go about it is so ineffective. I won't list specific details like places and names or post a pic, but I've shared so much, that anyone who knows me in real life would probably recognize these posts as coming from me. My Scorpio Ascendant does not like that one bit. I should post some false info just to throw people off my trail.  IP: Logged |
Ann7
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posted June 13, 2007 08:05 AM
Thank you both so much!!! Seriously, any input means more than you know because this guy is on my brain 24/7 and I'm trying to figure out why, lol. My moon is in his fourth house and his moon is in my eighth. I think he knows I can see the real him and it might freak him out, like wise when he came into my life it was instant intensity. We also have several double whammys. His sun trine my mars
my sun trine his mars
his venus square my mars
my venus square his mars
my asc trine his moon
his asc trine my moon
my venus trine his saturn
his venus trine my saturn
his venus sextile my mercury
my venus sextile his mercury Not to mention the passion of my mars conjunct his pluto, my moon conjunct his mars and my venus conjunct his venus. My thing is, with all of this passion and with all of our similarities, why aren't we together? And am I the only one obsessing over this. I am a Scorp sun / pisces moon / sag rising. He is a Cap sun / leo moon / Scorp rising. I know my scorp sun makes me obsessive and his cap sun makes him detatched ... but still. I guess it looks so great in print that I'm trying to figure out why it doesn't work in real life. My sun does square his moon and both of our suns square the others mercury, which I know isn't good but with all of the other positive stuff you'd think we could work through it. Izo, again thank you so much for the help and the kind words! I will take any advice I can get. Jane, same to you! Thank you so much... It helps to see how others compare..and yes, the sexual thing is overwhelming to say the least, lol. This mans kisses are addicting. And I'd like to think that, with a little tweaking, even the harder aspects can be worked through. IP: Logged |
alanabelle86
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posted June 13, 2007 08:10 AM
I have the Mars-Pluto aspect with my guy.Actually it's his Mars/Pluto conjunction...conjunct my Sun/Pluto conjunction...I find him extremely attractive, and he literally cannot keep his hands off of me!. Our Moon overlays are different though, my moon falls in his 11th house, and his falls in my 2nd house. ------------------
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jane
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posted June 13, 2007 08:24 AM
See, Mars-Pluto conjunctions are where it's at! I read at another site, which I can't recall at the moment, that with that aspect, each partner will push the other to sexual heights previously only fantasized about. Everyone should have this aspect, seriously. Ann - your guy has similar placements to me. I'm a Leo Moon/Scorpio Rising (but Sag Sun). This is the second post recently where someone's been interested in someone else with that combo. We are an enchanting bunch . I agree, your aspects are amazing. I'm trying to think of why things may not have developed as you'd like them to...perhaps with a Cap Sun, he's very cautious and needs to deeply trust someone before he allows himself to fall for her (Caps are great at self-restraint. I know, I'm a Cap Venus). And since you have a Scorpio Sun, you're probably very magnetic and alluring, and he may fear that you're not that committed. So maybe if you could somehow reassure him that he could feel secure with you, he'd open up more to feeling what you two have together. And I sympathize with him...someone's Moon in your 4th house feels so exposing. But on the plus side, it can be very comforting too. Does he have much experience with relationships? If not, he may just be scared by the intensity. I was at first too, but d*mn I couldn't resist that Mars-Pluto conjunction. IP: Logged |
Ann7
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posted June 13, 2007 09:18 AM
Thanks Alanabelle! I've noticed that I have the mars pluto conjunction with the men I'm attracted to. And it makes for serious sexual attraction! Jane, you guys are an enchanting bunch! I'm sure your sag sun makes you a lot more fun, though . {Funny because he has venus in sag} He has had a few serious relationships that ended badly. I guess I'm not sure how to read him and I'm afraid to pursue him for fear of freaking him out {no one likes a clingy weirdo...which I am but try hard to hide, lol}. I'm also waiting for him to pursue me... and the way it's going, that might be never. With all of our positive aspects, it just seems right. A lot of times, you meet someone and click instantly and everything flows great but eventually you grow bored. Maybe you have to trudge through the hard aspects with someone to learn about and strengthen the bond, keeping things fresh and exciting. Then again, that could be wishful thinking.
Jane, you've been absolutely awesome! IP: Logged |
MoonDreamer81
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posted June 13, 2007 10:37 AM
Jane,you said..."One of the things that initially attracted me to him and that I always loved about him was that when he looked at me, I felt like he was seeing my truest self. It's hard to explain in words. Have you ever experienced that? Someone who you felt could read your mind when he looked at you, like you could communicate on a non-verbal plane? It was thrilling and a little scary, especially since at that point I hadn't yet felt such a deep, honest bond in a romantic relationship before. As time went on, it was a comforting connection. I felt like I was at home whenever I looked at him. I think this connection may have been due to our Moon overlays"
OMG...This totally fits!Me and my guy both have Moon and Juno in each other's 4th house!I felt a deep connection from the start.Sometimes we finish each other's sentances,and I always can intuit what is goin on with him even though we live 2 hours apart.It's like a telepathic bond or something.We also have A Psyche/Asc. double whammy,which I've heard can lead to mental telepathy.Both of our Psyche's conj each other's Asc.
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izodesmozina
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posted June 13, 2007 12:01 PM
Hi, Jane!Well, it is about anonymity, too. But it's more serious than that. I can't give any more details about this. I will unsubscribe with this nickname from LL soon. But I'll be back Moon honey,
J will soon realize that YOU are the one for him. There is no doubt that you guys make an almost perfect match (I don't believe in perfect matches LOL). He can't face so much intensity at this point. But he will hehe... because he wants to, even if he doesn't know it yet. I am confident that you guys will be together. Keep the faith! Best wishes to all you girls! I hope you all have sunny days filled with lots of love! Take care!! ------------------
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Diandra23
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posted June 13, 2007 12:24 PM
Izo
Moon´s SM has already been aware of his feelings today - HURRAY I hope you´re OK - you´ve been missing here Hugh and kiss to you too! IP: Logged |
izodesmozina
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posted June 13, 2007 01:16 PM
OMG!!!!!!!!You go Moon!!!! I'm so happy for you!!!!  ------------------
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MoonDreamer81
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posted June 13, 2007 02:25 PM
Thx y'all!But he is still "officialy" with her.But I think I'm in his heart!  We shall see.....------------------
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jane
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posted June 14, 2007 03:28 AM
Ann - If anyone likes a clingy weirdo, it's a Scorpio Asc . I'm partly kidding, but seriously, my personal opinion about this guy (based on the signs we share) is that the best strategy is indirectly reassuring him that you're trustworthy (particularly if he also has a Venus-Pluto square). I understand wanting him to pursue you, I'm the same way. For your part, just make sure he knows what a fun but also trustworthy thing you are to pursue. I'm not sure if I should share this...ah, what the hell. Before my bf and I became a couple, we were once discussing what traits we most admire in a person. I said something about how I really admire courage in a person, and during that conversation I said that I think it's incredibly courageous to fall in love since you're opening yourself up to being hurt. And I would never cheat on someone I was involved with because that would be an insult to the trait I most admire. After we got involved, my bf told me that had meant a lot to him and let him know I was trustworthy. So you ladies are free to use that line, it's a total boxers-peeler . I shared that just to give an example of a very indirect way to pursue him: share your principles, and then let him have the burden and fun of the actual pursuit. I don't know how his relationships went bad, if it was infidelity or basic incompatibility or boredom or what, but I think anyone who's been burned before needs to feel safe with someone before getting involved IF they feel a strong connection with that person (less cautious when less feelings are involved). And, if I'm an accurate example of that, I think someone with a strong Leo/Scorpio/Cap influence would especially feel that way. Those strong aspects you two share can be scary but also oh so heavenly. quote:
Jane, you've been absolutely awesome!
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jane
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posted June 14, 2007 03:33 AM
MoonDreamer - a 4th house moon double whammy. Oh my! Having that along with the Psyche/Asc double whammy, I'm surprised the two of you ever bother with words. Have you two met in person yet? I can't even imagine the type of eye contact you'd have. If you haven't met yet, don't. I think you two would collapse the space time continuum in a single gaze. Izo - So mysterious. I like. And you better be back! IP: Logged |
Ann7
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posted June 14, 2007 08:51 AM
Hey Jane It gets complex {as do all relationships} I pushed away from him back in January, because of my fears and insecurities. He can be very hard to read and kind of cold at times {Cap sun?} which I took as lack of interest on his part. I am so taken by him that it is overwhelming. I couldn't handle all of the mixed signals. not to mention the timing wasn't right... So I ended it, and have regreted it every day since. When I look at our charts I see all of the good stuff as well as the bad {I am still pretty wet behind the ears when it comes to reading charts}. I am curious to know if he feels things as strongly as I do and if the relationship is worth me pursuing {in an indirect, friendly, un-clingy weirdo way lol }Here are more of our aspects with the orbs Steven's Jupiter is SEXTILE Ann's Sun - orb 1.76 Steven's Sun is SQUARE Ann's Mercury
Orb: 6.72 Steven's Mercury is SQUARE Ann's Sun
Orb: 0.45 Steven's Sun is SQUARE Ann's Saturn
Orb: 3.97 Steven's Sun is TRINE Ann's Mars
Orb: 1.17 Steven's Mars is TRINE Ann's Sun
Orb: 1.49 Steven's Sun is TRINE Ann's Jupiter
Orb: 2.07 Steven's Sun is TRINE Ann's Uranus
Orb: 6.96
Steven's Mercury is SEXTILE Ann's Venus
Orb: 4.52 Steven's Venus is SEXTILE Ann's Mercury
Orb: 1.25 Steven's Mercury is TRINE Ann's Uranus
Orb: 4.31 Steven's Venus is CONJUNCT Ann's Venus
Orb: 6.24 Steven's Venus is SQUARE Ann's Mars
Orb: 6.80 Steven's Mars is SQUARE Ann's Venus
Orb: 5.56 Steven's Jupiter is SQUARE Ann's Venus
Orb: 5.83 Steven's Venus is TRINE Ann's Saturn
Orb: 4.00
Steven's Saturn is TRINE Ann's Venus
Orb: 3.80
Steven's Uranus is CONJUNCT Ann's Mars
Orb: 5.41 Steven's Sun is SEXTILE Ann's Neptune
Orb: 0.63
Steven's Sun is TRINE Ann's Pluto
Orb: 0.72 Steven's Venus is SQUARE Ann's Pluto
Orb: 7.25 Steven's Neptune is SEXTILE Ann's Mars
Orb: 2.29
Steven's Pluto is CONJUNCT Ann's Mars
Orb: 1.00 Steven's Neptune is SEXTILE Ann's Jupiter
Orb: 0.95
Steven's Pluto is CONJUNCT Ann's Jupiter
Orb: 4.24 Then we have the Asc trine moon double whammy, my moon in his fourth and his moon in my eighth, my moon conjunct his mars {all previously mentioned} My venus trine his moon, my sun in his first house, his venus in my first house. What I really want to know is, does he feel it too? Do I feel it more so than him? Because I seem to be the only one doing any of the pursuing {making contact every three weeks or so...don't want to be totally in his face }. I agree with what you said, Jane, to let him no that I'm trustworthy. I'm guessing actions speak louder than words and my actions have shown him that I'm a flake, lol. IP: Logged |
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posted June 14, 2007 10:52 AM
" If you haven't met yet, don't. I think you two would collapse the space time continuum in a single gaze."~Laughing at Jane~  ------------------
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jane
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posted June 15, 2007 01:10 AM
Ann - Does he feel it too? Hard to say. The aspects are certainly there, but he may have turned himself off to feeling them. If he decided, for whatever reason, that this relationship wasn't right for him, I think a Cap Sun/Scorpio Rising would be capable of ignoring what he's feeling. But, if we're gonna ignore the psychology and go just with astrology, your synastry looks equally balanced to me. Looking at this, I wouldn't expect a one-sided interest. You guys have a Venus trine Saturn double whammy which is good for producing enduring feelings and commitment. His Sun also trines your Pluto and squares your Saturn. In synastry, Saturn and Pluto are both frequently described as having the upper hand, meaning that the person whose personal planets is making the contact feels compulsively drawn to Saturn/Pluto. If anything, he may be feeling too much. His Venus also squares your Pluto, but that orb may be too wide for synastry.You guys have some other great double whammies: Sun trine Mars (in my experience, great for sexual attraction and compatibility) and Venus sextile Mercury (great for affectionate communication). You do have a troubling double whammy too though--Sun square Mercury. This could produce miscommunication and make both of you very difficult for the other to read. Since miscommunication is highlighted in your synastry, maybe what you two need is very direct, clear communication. As mortifying as the thought may be, maybe you two need to directly discuss how you feel, what you can offer, and what you want from one another. Normally it's nice for a relationship to develop on its own without having such a logical, direct conversation, but it may be what you two need to do before you're able to fully enjoy all the wonderful synastry aspects you two have. And I doubt he thinks you're a flake! He may just be feeling down on himself that he wasn't able to keep your interest. I feel for you though, this is a tough situation to be in. I hope it all works out for the best. IP: Logged |
jane
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posted June 15, 2007 01:11 AM
MoonDreamer - When you two do meet, please give me some advance notice. There are some things I'd like to do before the universe implodes. IP: Logged |
Ann7
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posted June 15, 2007 07:05 AM
Jane, thank you soooooo so so very much! It helps to hear from a real person as opposed to an ordered chart, and you have been awesome! Also, I read the information on Venus square Pluto and it, too, was very helpful! I wanted to comment last night but couldn't get near my pc long enough to do so {crazy house, lol}. Again, thank you IP: Logged |
jane
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posted June 17, 2007 04:50 AM
Ann - You're welcome so very much. I'd contribute regardless, but since I've received a lot of information from this board, it's nice to give back when the opportunity arises. I consider myself an astrogical newbie though, so I hope other more experienced people share their views too (in this or your other threads). I'm glad the Venus-Pluto info was helpful. For your sake, I hope this guy isn't the one with that aspect. That square is tough to deal with, imho, and requires a well developed emotional maturity. I just remembered another site that has a good write up on Venus-Pluto squares. If I'm able to find the description I'm thinking of, I'll post it in your other thread. IP: Logged |
Ann7
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posted June 17, 2007 08:33 AM
Uh-oh...The guy in question is the same guy with the Venus/Pluto square 5°22. I'll be on the look out IP: Logged | |
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