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scorpiofrancesca
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posted June 30, 2007 09:33 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am trying to figure out why my sagg boyfriend has been acting so extraordinarily suspicious. He is suspicious and paranoid to begin with, (I'm guessing his virgo moon is responsible,) but lately to the point of insanity. I cannot do the right thing, cannot say the right thing, without him putting a suspicious take on whatever I say. He makes the most absurd accusations of me cheating or lying, and recently told him that he possibly needs more than someone who is straight as an arrow faithful, maybe someone who goes even beyond just that. It has been happening so frequently, that I broke it off... It was exhausting having to prove myself every day when I have never in two years given him a single reason. I cannot figure out what is responsible for his behavior.. But I do know at this point I love him, but when someone puts such strains on me, I would rather be alone. I feel selfish asking for help, but I'm at such a loss right now.. Thank you.
Here are his placements:

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scorpiofrancesca
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posted June 30, 2007 09:35 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Shoot, put the topic up twice AND didn't post his chart right..

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BornUnderDioscuri
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posted July 01, 2007 12:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BornUnderDioscuri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The thing that I notice is that Saturn just transited his DC and is in his 7th house. My bf is about to go through that/sorta going through it. I myself worry a lot about that transit.
This is a nice link with the explanations:
http://www.cafeastrology.com/saturntransitinghouses.html

I also notice that he had a Saturn return. Im not sure about that but it seems like a worthwhile thing to consider. Though relationships with that thing are indeed hard. When it was in my bfs 7th before it retrograded we had about 30 breakups (not exaggerating). My bf is a Gemini Capricorn rising Aquarius so they have some similar placements.

I hope this helps, im really not that good at this stuff

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scorpiofrancesca
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posted July 01, 2007 12:29 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you so much. You have no idea..that helped me put some sort of explanation for his behavior. Of course, there is always possible outside influences other than astrology that may have an effect. But what this said made sense to me. He has been making our relationship impossible it feels like.

"Saturn always brings with him a fair measure of reality and objectivity, so that whatever relationships the native has or wants will be defined and re-defined. Relationships are seen now as serious. Partners are no longer simply fun or mirrors of our ego."

This particularly struck me. His cultural background would not consider it acceptable if we were to get married, so I am wondering if now he's being a realist about our relationship, etc.

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BornUnderDioscuri
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posted July 01, 2007 01:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BornUnderDioscuri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oh if you don't mind me asking what is his cultural background and yours. Cuz same with my bf. We are from completely different worlds. Im Ukranian and hes Bengali. And hes an Aqua rising.

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scorpiofrancesca
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posted July 02, 2007 01:06 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't mind at all. He is jordanian, Arab culture. Me? I'm american, and thats all that matters to his fam...Who I never met anyways but thats another can of worms...

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BornUnderDioscuri
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posted July 03, 2007 12:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BornUnderDioscuri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Awww babe im right there with you. My bf's parents pretend they dont know he has a relationship. I won't claim that Bengali culture is similar to arab but there are some issues that overlap and the whole "american women are hos " is certainly one of them....even better im Jewish its a fun party lol. Never met his parents either, and am terrified of them to boot

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Happy Dragon
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posted July 03, 2007 11:30 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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** .. I cannot do the right thing, cannot say the right thing, without him putting a suspicious take on whatever I say. He makes the most absurd accusations of me cheating or lying, and recently told him that he possibly needs more than someone who is straight as an arrow faithful, maybe someone who goes even beyond just that. .. **

both transiting Saturn ( from his 7th ) and transiting Neptune ( from his 1st ) are squaring his natal Scorpio N.Node .. ("putting a suspicious take on whatever I say")
transiting Chiron is conjoining his Ascendant ( opposing his Descendant ) .. ("He makes the most absurd accusations")
tChiron has been direct/retrograding recently .. so an extended transit there ..

t.Jupiter ( from his 10th ) is conjoining his natal Neptune .. and squaring his natal Moon ..
( nept. and moon square nataly )

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direct and retro dates ..
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scorpiofrancesca
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posted July 04, 2007 07:15 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
dioscuri, my heart goes to you and I wish you the best of luck. Its terrible, and I like to think that its all just skin color or religion, but in reality its not and its tough on a relationship. My friends and family don't understand... and yes like you i was petrified to meet his fam, he definitely warned me about it. And although different countries, I am sure their views of american women is the same. I always thought we would have to elope if we married, lol...only half kidding..

happy dragon...you're wonderful. I'm grateful for the information, and it all makes more sense now. Its a relief to know that maybe it was temporary.. Not sure if well patch things up this time. Well see. Thank you so much. francesca

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Happy Dragon
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posted July 04, 2007 08:26 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
~ scorpiofrancesca ~

Saturn is moving on .. it will be out of close orb to his n.node by the 8th of this month ..
.. ( however Chiron/ Jupiter and Neptune are currently retrograde ) ..
t.Jupiter also 'sextiles' his natal Pluto ( as well as squaring his Moon and conjoining natal Neptune )
so together with t.Neptune ( squaring his sorpio n.node) is no doubt adding to the potential 'suspicion' ..
i.e driving it so to speak .. maybe a bit overblown on the emotional level ..

anyhow .. at least Saturn will be out of the way soon .. :-)

btw: last time Saturn 'challenged' his N.Node .. was May 2000
( t.Saturn was 'opposing' his N.Node )
maybe ask him what he might have gone thru then ..
( he aslo had tPluto squaring his natal Moon back then ..
plus a few more outers aspecting his n.node .. including Uranus )
face him up to the past with a bit of astrology .. :-)

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BornUnderDioscuri
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posted July 05, 2007 10:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BornUnderDioscuri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
scorpiofrancesca - thank you so much and I wish all the best to you. I definately understand what you are going through and I know friends and family don't get it unless they have gone through it themselves. Best of wishes to you, i really hope things work out

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