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Motherkonfessor
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posted July 02, 2007 04:02 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah.

I am so thrilled that Saturn will soon enter Virgo- right after my birthday, thanks Universe!

Will this be like ANOTHER Saturn Return for me, I wonder.... since Saturn will be conjunct my natal Sun AND Mercury until 2010.

I got SOOOOOOOO bummed out thinking about this 2 days ago I cried all day long- or maybe that's just my thyroid failing, I don't know.

I just have this sneaking suspicion this doesn't bode well for my current health situation.

AND- d@mmit- why do I get a double dose of Saturn!?!?!!


MK

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ciao
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posted July 03, 2007 02:02 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know how you're feeling Motherkonfessor.

Saturn is going to hit my Virgo Sun and Venus in the 10th come this September! I'm already shaking in my boots, and I think my sheets are wet too . I hope it's not like a Saturn Return though, I've been hearing bad stuff about it. My SR won't come for about another 5 years. Are you going through a SR, or did you finish your's already?

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sassygrrrl
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posted July 03, 2007 02:07 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I also know you feel. Saturn will be conjuncting my Leo Moon soon, and while Saturn is in Virgo, will be conjuncting my Sun, Mercury, Uranus & Pluto. *cries*

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Belage
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posted July 03, 2007 02:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually, depending on the planets involved, Saturn conjunctions do not have to be bad things.

I don't like Saturn conjunct moon because it is a typically sobering time, but I will take it anytime over Saturn square or opposite or quincunx moon.

Saturn conjunct a planet is a time for that planet to get down to concrete business. Some say that it is a time of limitation for the planet involved, which is true, but I am looking at the limitation as something that is needed. Sometimes, one has over-reached, gotten into pie-in-the-sky situation, someone is daydreaming too much or doing all kind of fancyfull things that are not bringing anything concrete to their lives, and Saturn conjuncting these planets will definitely bring them a cold dose of reality. Usually, it is a much needed cold shower, Saturn is always fair.

Just be ready to learn the lessons it brings, and Saturn will reward you in the long term. I used to be so scared of Saturn when I was younger, but with time, I have learned to appreciate it. That's why they say that Saturn is the Lord of time.

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Dulce Luna
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posted July 03, 2007 03:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm kindo of freakin' out about saturn conjuncting my virgo moon because I remember when saturn last conjuncted my sun and that was no walk in the park. So.....I wanna bump this thread up.

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lalalinda
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posted July 03, 2007 06:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Belage, Exellent interp.

When Saturn conjuncts the Sun by transit, it brings about "karmic events"
birth, death, marriage etc.

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alanabelle86
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posted July 03, 2007 06:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for alanabelle86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Saturn has just passed a conjunction to my Moon

It's currently squaring my Venus and Mercury

and when it enters Virgo it'll be squaring my AC and opposing my Chart ruler...Jupiter

Saturn never gives me a break . My P. AC just entered Capricorn so hopefully that helps me deal a little better

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Jazzebel
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posted July 03, 2007 06:42 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
me too MK,
TR Saturn will bump onto my Sun right after it enters Virgo. I've got 1'Virgo Sun and DC and South Node, all conjunct together.
I'm not afraid even one bit. I'm looking forward to see how it will turn out for me.
I think the worst one is Saturn/Pluto hard aspect, either by transit or progression. There's no way one can fight against that one - it captures you and throws you on the floor face down.

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sVirgo
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posted July 03, 2007 07:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is it for all Virgo's sun sign?

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Azalaksh
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posted July 04, 2007 11:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
MK ~

I wouldn’t say your “life will start to suck” As a matter of fact I’ll go out on a limb and say this could be a positive experience (after you’ve endured the slog)…..

Here’s some reading (3mb pdf):
Saturn Crossing the MC
First paragraph:
As Saturn transits the MC and moves into the 10th house, a new force seizes the individual. A complete reevaluation of his effectiveness is in order……

I daresay tSaturn squaring nNeptune in your 1st will be a challenge – the Planet of Boundaries Meets the Planet of No Boundaries…..

And it won’t last until 2010 – tSaturn will be gone from aspecting Neptune/Sun/Merc by Sept 2008 and won’t be back (ephemeris here: http://www.astro.com/swisseph/ae/2000/ae_2008.pdf )
The most difficult part of your journey will probably be Saturn sitting on your Sun this November/December/January, and it’ll be out of its orb of influence on your chart by next August – here’s a little listing:

Saturn transiting Virgo – Date, Degrees/Minutes, Rx/Direct

09-03-07 00.03 D
09-11-07 01.03 D
09-19-07 02.02 D
09-28-07 03.05 D
10-07-07 04.06 D
10-16-07 05.02 D
10-27-07 06.04 D
11-08-07 07.01 D
11-25-07 08.01 D
12-20-07 08.34 Rx

01-01-08 08.26 Rx
01-13-08 08.02 Rx
01-31-08 07.01 Rx
02-13-08 06.04 Rx
02-26-08 05.02 Rx
03-10-08 04.00 Rx
03-24-08 03.02 Rx
04-14-08 02.00 Rx
05-03-08 01.41 D
05-22-08 02.00 D
06-12-08 03.02 D
06-25-08 04.00 D
07-07-08 05.04 D
07-17-08 06.05 D
07-26-08 07.03 D
08-04-08 08.05 D
08-12-08 09.03 D
08-20-08 10.02 D
08-28-08 11.02 D

From cafeastrology:

When Saturn transits conjunct the Sun, our level of maturity, realism, and responsibility come up for inspection. The goals we have set for ourselves, as well as our very character, are now re-evaluated for strength and purpose, and tested against reality. Saturn has a way of slowing down our lives, as if it is forcing us to take a really good look at it. Because the Sun rules our vitality, we may feel that our energy is somewhat depleted. We begin to feel our age, and the pressures that may go along with it. We may feel alone and un-parented. Our achievements to date become especially important to us, and we are extremely sensitive to whether or not we have been recognized on a professional level as well as on a personal level. Whether our talents and abilities, and our unique individuality and character, are recognized by others becomes especially important to us. We tend to be self-critical and/or we feel that others do not support or recognize us enough. This process is necessary, as we are learning to see ourselves more realistically—without rose-colored glasses—so that we can move forward with a stronger sense of purpose.


When Saturn transits conjunct Mercury:
You are very serious-minded now, and you ask probing questions that strike to the heart of the matter. This is a good time for reading, studying, and disciplined, concentrated thinking and research. Your deep thought and analysis can lead you to an important discovery, realization, or decision. Your best work now is on very specific problems or technical issues. You are also able to perfect a technique, such as would be used in a trade, craft, or artistic endeavor.

Your thinking on larger, more philosophical issues, like politics and religion, tends to be very narrow and one-sided in scope, much more so than you are likely to realize. You tend to simplify complex problems and issues into simple terms that have simple answers, and you tend to feel indignant or self-righteously superior when others point out alternatives to your ideas. Try not to oversimplify complex issues.

In general, communications are difficult. This time period is better for personal analysis and research rather than for sharing ideas. Others will usually take little interest in your ideas now, and you will be disappointed by the lack of response.

Keys to Handling Saturn Transits:
Saturn teaches us about the value of moderation and caution. Perhaps the best way to "handle" hard Saturn transits to personal planets and points is to avoid fighting these lessons. Accept that, at this time in your life, things may move at a slower speed (even a snail's pace). Saturn wants us to work hard, put our energies into practical, useful, and meaningful projects, and to live in the here and now. This period in your life is a time for building a solid foundation. Understand that moderation at this point in your life is necessary for your spiritual growth and your physical body as well. Avoid blaming others for where you are at now--doing this will only lead to feelings of melancholy and anger. Know that this period in your life, while temporary, is a time for learning about your personal limits as well as your inner strength. Carry these lessons as you move beyond this phase, because how you handle your life now will make all the difference the next time (7 years later) Saturn makes a hard aspect to the same planet or point in your chart.

Saturn Transiting the Tenth House
Saturn reaches the top of our chart when it begins its transit through the tenth house. Ironically enough, there is freedom in knowing some of our limitations, and Saturn's transit through the tenth house teaches us exactly what this means. By the time Saturn leaves the house, we will have learned where we stand in the world, and how we have limited our achievements. This self-evaluation then offers us the freedom to appraise where we want to go. Approximately 14 years before this transit, we learned Saturnine lessons of the fourth house—we built a secure foundation within ourselves. Now it is time we build a secure foundation in our professional and/or most public lives. Our standing in society now comes under Saturn's scrutiny. We are in the spotlight, and what it is exactly that we have been building now comes up for inspection. Any projects begun 12-14 years before this transit are now scrutinized. Some of us find ourselves getting recognition and career "rewards" at this time. If this transit occurs in early adulthood, it is a time when we face our duties as a career person. Although the tenth house is a house of ambition, we do not focus on where we are going as much as we focus on where we stand. The question, "Where are we going?", is reserved for the next house, the eleventh, although on some level we are preparing for that stage as well. Before we know where exactly we are headed, we must know where we stand. Saturn's transit of the tenth house is an eye-opening one—a time when we are working hard, taking on our fair share of duties and responsibilities, and either reaping some of the rewards of our hard work or facing the consequences of poor choices. We become aware of what we have and haven't accomplished to date, and we unconsciously prepare to re-evaluate our lives in terms of our personal goals during the next house transit. What have we achieved to date? We now are treated to a realistic look at what we have built and what we have achieved. We no longer view our place in the world, our careers, our reputations, and our standing in society with rose-colored glasses. We face the facts, and only the facts. At the beginning of the transit, our increased sensitivity to where we stand and to our reputations may feel uncomfortable for some. We may feel exposed, publicly scrutinized, or under fire in our careers. We may also feel burdened by our responsibilities. This discomfort comes only as a result of a rush of reality into the matters of the tenth house, and if the discomfort is great, it is only due to the fact that we may have been holding onto false images of ourselves. Just as a mid-life crisis is experienced differently by different people, Saturn's transit of the tenth house holds different meaning for different people, depending very much on how true we have been to ourselves. However, as Saturn moves through the house, we begin to feel more secure. We recognize what it is exactly that we have accomplished.

Take care, MK!! You’ll make it past this just fine
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Xena
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posted July 04, 2007 04:53 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, my Saturn Return was great (signed first publishing deal), just the time after wasn't (as ex-hubby got jealous and our marriage reached its final conclusion).

I have tr. Saturn moving towards my Asc, so I have no idea what that will mean. I'm not even sure I really care to get my knickers in a twist over it. At the end of the day life has as much to do with our manoeuvres as anything else...bit like a giant chess game.

The last 2 years with Saturn in Leo (trine my Sun) have actually been quite frustrating in many ways. But they have been invaluable in order to place me where I am now.

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thedividedsky
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posted July 05, 2007 08:05 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
heheheh

Virgo Sun Merc and Venus, the first two being in the 10th house.....

Will I finally be able to figure out a career??!!!!!

Looks promising!

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