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Love
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posted July 09, 2007 04:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Love     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So, after the recent end of my favourite relationship (and happiest and most balanced, etc.etc.) I tried to make sense of it astrologically. I find that doing that helps me to detach a little bit from the pain of letting go (Cancer Sun, Ascendant and Venus as well as Pluto and Karma in the 4th) which is typically very challenging for me.

Anyhow, after going through things and feeling a little bit better, I recently had a look at our progressed charts, really for curiosity's sake.

I'm not sure what compelled me to do that since I don't know a lot about progressed charts except how they relate to individual charts.

I did read somewhere (maybe here?) that checking out transits moving through one's progressed chart was often a valuable thing to do and often more accurate then transits to the natal. Is this true? In any case, this does ot have to do with transits in this case, but rather a Progressed Synastry.

Not to get into a long history of our relationship and subsequent break up, but in a nutshell, I didn't want to end the relationship and in a way, neither did he...but he felt he had to for various reasons. So I guess you could say that, ultimately, I was more invested in this relationship than he was, in the end. Having said that, even though I asked him to let me be so I could move on, he has had a very hard time doing that. (He's a Scorpio BTW, with a Virgo Moon and Venus in Libra)

In looking at our progressed charts, I noticed a few interesting things. I will only mention the conjunctions here for the sake of brevity.

In our natal synastry charts, my Vertex exactly conjuncts his natal Karma in Scorpio.

I progressed our charts to one year from now and I found the opposite aspect. His progressed Vertex conjuncts my progressed Karma, but in Libra.

My P.North Node conjuncts his P.Descendant as well as his P. Ceres, Mars and Venus which also conjuncts our P. Composite Karma.

His P. Sun conjuncts my P. Vertex whereas in our natal charts his Sun conjuncts my North Node.

Also, our P. Composite North Node conjuncts his P. Karma as well as my P. Neptune.

Our P. Composite has our Sun and Moon conjuncting in Libra.

Another interesting series of conjunctions happens in Cancer. His P. Osiris, Valentine and my Name asteroid conjuncts my P.Moon as well as his P. name asteroid...all conjuncting P. Composite Saturn.

I also noticed that my P.Descendant exactly conjuncts his natal Part of Marriage. Both his natal and P. North Node conjunct my natal Part of Marriage.

Maybe I'm just having a hard time accepting what is...I won't deny that at all. And I am slowly moving on, bit by bit. I truly love him though if it's not meant to be, then it's not. But I cannot help but wonder about these progressed aspects. Also, it just doesn't feel over, but again, that might just be all in my head.

Is there any significance within the context of progressed synastry or is my head stuck up my a**?

Thanks to whomever should reply

~ Love

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lalalinda
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posted July 09, 2007 05:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Big life changes happen when the progressed Moon changes signs, houses, or conjuncts planets or house cusps. (in the natal)

Start there. Leave out the astroids for now.
Then check your transits.

Progressions will tell you what
and transits will tell you how

Good Luck Love

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EighthMoon
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posted July 15, 2007 11:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EighthMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Lalalinda,

Thought your comment was very interesting.

So...if my progressed moon (on 11/3/07) moves from the 2nd house and makes an exact conjunction to the 3rd house cusp (20.34 Sag) and conjuncts transiting Jupiter (20.2 Sag) and Pluto (wide orb 27.1)...what do you think that could mean?

I also should add that I've been writing to someone who I've had a strong spiritual connection to for several years. On the same date, this all conjuncts his natal Ceres 24.0. His progressed Sun and Mercury (in Libra) conjunct my Asc (w/i 1 degree). His progressed moon conjuncts transiting Chiron (in Aqua) w/i 3 degrees. Hmmmm....

I'd appreciate any input!

Thanks!
8th

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mudmama
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posted July 15, 2007 02:03 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Fascinating!! I had to check mine and my progressed Moon went from Taurus to Gemini the week my now former relationship went down the dumper permanently.

ETA: I just checked an old friend of mine, his partner passed on last year at the week his progressed Moon shifted signs too

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lalalinda
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posted July 15, 2007 06:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello EighthMoon

When using progressions you use an orb of no more than one degree (either way)
Many times I've seen it activated 1 degree after.

Conjunct the 3rd house will highlight this area, which will be siblings, neighbors, primary education, communication, a possible move or traveling in your area etc.

Transiting Jupiter will expand this.
Look at your natal Jupiter (what house, what sign and aspects) Jupiter rules your 3rd house.

When P. Moon reaches the conjunction with Pluto (I'm guessing here, but the ruler of your 2nd house?) You'll either pay for (education, class etc.) or be paid for services that you have been schooled for.

The whole chart must be taken into consideration.

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posted July 15, 2007 07:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Love     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Lalalinda ~

So my progressed Moon is at 0 degrees Cancer and literally about to move into my 12th house. Fabulous. It's squaring Progressed Pluto by 9 degrees AND it's an applying aspect. (Pluto's in my P. 3rd House conjuncting Karma asteroid.) Luckily ( I think, my P. Moon is also conjuncting my Progressed POF)

My progressed Moon is conjuncting my Natal Cancerian Sun and Venus as well as Transiting Mercury.

Can someone give me a little hope please...???

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lalalinda
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posted July 16, 2007 07:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good Morning Love,

Your progressed Moon is on the Aries Point right now (0 degrees cardnal signs)
this is a critical degree.

Aspect your P. Moon to your other planets.
(natal and progressed)
I'm on my way to work right now but I will check this thread when I get home.

a few useful links
http://www.moonvalleyastrologer.com/fame.htm
http://www.donmc.com/aries_point_revisited.htm

Good Luck Love

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posted July 16, 2007 03:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Love     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay, I checked out the aspects of my P. Moon in aspect to my P. Chart, my natal chart and my Solar Return chart. I'm not sure of the orbs for these so I have included all of them for P. and natal and most of them for the Solar aspects.

Progressed Moon/Progressed Planets:

semi-sextile Sun (1 degree orb)
quintile Mercury(1)
trine Saturn (3)
square Pluto (9a)
sextile Chiron (1)
conjunct POF (2)
sextile Lilith (0)
trine Lust (3)
conjunct Osiris (4)
quintile MC (0)

Progressed Moon/Natal

conjunct Sun (2)
semi-square Moon (0)
conjunct Mercury (3)
semi-sextile Saturn (1)
trine Uranus (3)
square Pluto (8a)
sextile Chiron (1)
conjunct Asc. (9)

Progressed Moon/Solar Return:

sextile Mars (1) (Solar Return 5th House)
conjunct Sun (2) (SR 8th House)
sextile Ceres and Karma (5) (SR 6th House)
trine my name asteroid (5) (SR 12th House)
conjunct Vertex (8, wide) (SR 8th House)
opposed Pluto (4) (SR 2nd House)
trine Lilith (4) (SR 11th House)
trine Amor (2) (SR 4th House)
trine Valentine (6) (SR 4th House)

My Progressed Moon is currently in the 11th House of my P. chart and will enter into the 12th house in two degrees (2'44 Cancer).
Once it does this, for a brief time (one month??) both my P. Sun and Moon will be in the 12th...Sun in Leo conjuncting Ascendant and Moon in Cancer conjuncting my ex's name asteroid )

Sorry if I included too much info. I wasn't sure what was pertinent but I thank you for having a look into things.

I did notice that Pluto is getting squared and opposed at every turn here.

~ Love


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posted July 16, 2007 04:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Love     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also, this has nothing to do with the progressed chart, but I did notice that my natal Vertex conjuncts (within 1 degree) my Solar Return Ascendant and my natal Ascendant conjuncts (within 1 degree) my Solar Return Vertex.

Natal Vertex: Scorpio, 26 degrees (House 5)
Natal Ascendant: Cancer, 9 degrees

SR Vertex: Cancer, 8 degrees (House 8)
SR Ascendant: Scorpio, 25 degrees

Oh yeah. And, in my progressed chart, as of today, my P. NN is at 8 degrees Scorpio (House 4). In my SR chart my NN is at 8 degrees Pisces, conjuncting my IC and POF (but techincally in the 3rd H).

Weird.

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lalalinda
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posted July 16, 2007 06:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello Love,

The progressed Moon moves approx. 1 degree per month. In about 2 months it will be conjunct your Natal Sun. This is an important progression. It is going to activate the planets in the natal that the Sun aspects. (look at your aspect grid, is your N. Sun involved in any major configurations?)

Here are a few links to help delineate
http://www.cafeastrology.com/progressedmoonaspects.html


Progressed Moon conjunct Sun Expect a bit of an ego boost for a while, as your one-two Sun-Moon punch is right in tune in your Sun sign. So for the moment you may be best off putting your eggs all in one basket where you can take advantage of big steps forward without dividing your energies. Presenting a solid front is easy and puts you ahead of the game.

secondary progressions
http://www.cafeastrology.com/secondaryprogressions.html

http://www.astrologyweekly.com/astrological-techniques/predictive-astrology-levels.php

Good Luck Love

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EighthMoon
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posted July 16, 2007 08:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EighthMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lalalinda,

Thank you so much for taking the time to respond.

My natal Jupiter is 24.27r Cancer in the 9th house, conjunct MC 24.55 and Karma 21.16, trine Sun 26.46 Pisces and Chiron 25.45 Pisces (in the 5th house) and trine my natal Neptune 24.14r Scorpio in the 2nd house.

Jupiter is also conjunct the Venus of the person I mentioned in the last post at 23.54 Cancer. My Neptune also conjuncts his Juno (25.01) and Pallas (26.51).

Does that shed any light on this transit? Also, does this seem communication oriented...or should I not include his planets in the mix w/ my tranits?

Thanks so much!

8th

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Lana29865
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posted July 17, 2007 02:14 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am not familiar with progressions or transits, but after reading some of the posts here I decided to do a little check on an event that changed my relationship.

I just looked at our progressed Moons at that date, and guess what... Mine was 0 deg Aries and his was 0 deg Capricorn.

I am amazed that we BOTH indeed had this 0 deg - an indication of big change...

(Edited i.e. deleted personal info).

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lalalinda
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posted July 17, 2007 08:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good Morning EighthMoon,

Well you couldn't have a better Jupiter
Exalted in Cancer and at the top of your chart, Exelent placement.

With the progressed Moon transiting the 3rd, and N Jupiter conjunct the MC,
get ready to get NOTICED!
Yes communications figure prominately

I'm running late for work (as usual) but will check this thread when I get back

Good Luck EighthMoon



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EighthMoon
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posted July 17, 2007 03:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EighthMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, Linda!!!

Is it OK if I e mail you my chart? Maybe you'll see something else. This is fascinating!

8th

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lalalinda
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posted July 17, 2007 08:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
8th Moon, you've got mail

edited to add: Lana29865
It's amazing how that works
but not surprising. Astrology is such an enigma and so synchronized. I love the way things fit

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EighthMoon
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posted July 17, 2007 10:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EighthMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lalalinda...

I sent the info.

Thanks SO MUCH!!!

8th

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The Magician
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posted July 20, 2007 03:26 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Lalalinda!
Could u please share with us what would "prog moon conj nep" signify in a chart?..thanks

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posted July 22, 2007 02:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Love     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Lalalinda

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lalalinda
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posted July 23, 2007 09:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're welcome Love

Sorry Magician, (I'm playing catch up)

Progressed Moon conjunct natal Neptune
first look and see what house Pisces Rules in your natal chart (this is the area in focus with this aspect)
http://www.cafeastrology.com/progressedmoonaspects.html

Progressed Moon conjunct Neptune Don't be surprised if you find yourself adrift on your dreams for the next couple of months, which can be a treat if you've cleared your decks of practical matters so you can let it happen. You can't be pinned down right now, so don't go there, but let yourself float and give your imagination full sway.

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Diandra23
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posted July 23, 2007 11:52 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is a great thread!
I dindt knew that about the progresses Moon.

I looked up mine and my bf´s P Charts:8 chosing natal and progressions)

His P.Moon will only change sign and house in August 2008 - from 6thhouse Cap to 7thhouseAqua.

Then,will only change into 8th house in Feb 2010.

Mine changed Sign in the 6th house( from Sag to Aries)in Last September - it was when my relationship became more serious and committed in every aspect.

It changed to house 6th to 7th house in February this year.- but that month i dont recall on habing had a sudden change on anything.

It will only change sign(into Taurus) in February 2009( my P.NN will also be conjuncting N.NN,POF and Vesta); and into 8th house in March 2009.



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