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Venus De Milo
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posted July 23, 2007 11:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venus De Milo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was thinking some more about Saturn being the tie that binds in synastry and I had a couple of questions and a theory to pose to you all.

Theory first... do you think a couple with no major Saturn contacts may last a long time (ie: more than a year)... perhaps the relationship is superficial and/or no karmic lessons are learned from it... even though it lasts a relatively long time?

I know one year is not a long relationship, or even a couple of years, when we think of the magnitude of Saturn and karma and our lifetimes and... eternity for that matter!

But do you think this could be a good conclusion to draw? I mean we learn lessons from everyone we encounter, our paths all cross for a reason, but we all now the lessons of Saturn are heavier and more soul-testing than say.. the lessons learned from a Mars-Venus contact? Yes/No?

Now for the questions... When you think back to the major loves of your life, did you have Saturn contacts, both ways or just one way or not at all? Anyone with no contacts at all that got MARRIED? Or even STAYED MARRIED? That would be interesting I'd like to hear your story!

Second question... All my astrology books are on the other side of the country, lol... what does Saturn in the 8th house mean in synastry please? Hehehe. Thank you!

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ErickaF
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posted July 23, 2007 12:20 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey I think your questions are important and hopefully someone more knowledgable than me will answer ;-). I don't have much saturn aspects in my current relationship...well expect Sun squared Saturn in synastry. I also have his saturn in my eighth house too...to me it feels we belong together!

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Diandra23
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posted July 23, 2007 12:37 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Have you already looked to Magi Astrology? They talk a lot about Saturn on sinastry and relationships

It is said seldom that Saturn is the bonding planet.Whenever for example theres a nice aspect between asc/saturn a couple may be bonded forever.

Hmm i dont know if it has to be aspects from Staurn to make the relationship work or not - depends on the owl chart and of the will of the 2

For example, my Sturn doesnt make any aspect to his personals - just his saturn/pluto/uranus/amor/eros/asc.
He the one who is seen as my Saturn guy - aspects my sun,moon,venus,mars,nept,pluto,NN(0ºtrine)and valentine.
His SATURN falls on my 1st and my on his 4th house.
IN composite: our saturn in the 3rd makin no aspects to personals (only < venus).
it aspects the other slower planets and love asteroids also.

So, for one side is aspected in sinastry but not so much in composite.

In Davidson, it aspects the Moon/Venus and stays in the same house.

We made one year of relationship and we consider each other the great love of our lives - i do feel its a very karmic encounter and as you see, not many personal contacts with Saturn in composite.

Have you already looked to asteroids?see if aspects in tight?

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posted July 24, 2007 03:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venus De Milo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Diandra,

Yeah, I'm not really interested in asteroids right now. Just Saturn. And only in synastry

This isn't about a specific couple either, it's just things that bobble around in my head thinking of my own relationships and those of people around me I've examined astrologically.

For me, the rules of Saturn hold true. All the major relationships in my life have had major Saturn connections. My ex-husband had Saturn exactly conjunct my ASC. My best friend has a glut of Saturn aspects. The psycho Pisces and I have some nasty Saturn oppositions back and forth (mine is opposed his Sun, his is opposed my Moon). My father and I have a ton of Squares and oppositions involving Saturn also... so yeah.

If I read correctly, it sounds like you and you guy have a TON of Saturn if his Saturn aspects all your personal planets. Your Saturn doesn't have to reciprocate. The karmic binds and connections are there...

I'll have a look at Magi astrology and Saturn, thanks!

Erica, does Saturn in the 8th mean a crappy sex life? ROTFL!!! I hope not

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posted July 24, 2007 04:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A dear friend of mine's Saturn opposes my Venus---he is 11 years my senior.

My Saturn conj his Merc in the 12th...

Our "relationship" has quite the "fated" quality and many, many other karmic implications are present in our composite.

I believe, from what I have seen that The Lord of Karma is just that in synastry!!!

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Diandra23
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posted July 24, 2007 06:58 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here it is the link of Magi:
http://www.magiastrology.com/heartbreaks.html

They talk about Saturn a lot; i think that theyre a little radical on stating some things though...

See if any resonates with you

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ErickaF
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posted July 24, 2007 10:46 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus: No saturn in 8th does not mean a crappy sex life! Where on earth did you come up with that?!!? Lol. I always felt it was a special aspect.

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posted July 24, 2007 11:10 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We have Venus trine Saturn double whammy with only 2 degree orb. And we have Venus exactly conjunct Saturn in Composite.

I do not know whether our relationship is called long-lasting or not. We have met for 3 years. From the past, we quit seeing each other several times but finally we reconcile. However, this time is a year already that I did not reunion with him and decide not to do so soon.

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posted July 25, 2007 07:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venus De Milo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LOL.... Erica, I don't know, I just had a foreboding vision of Old Man Saturn standing in my 8th house, wagging his finger at me, saying "NO SEX FOR YOU!!!"... ROTFL!!!

*cringes*

This would be a terrible thing... soooo... enlighten me someone... Saturn in the 8th in synastry, what does it mean, exactly?

Thanks Diandra I will have a read!

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posted July 25, 2007 07:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kindjali     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gotta one question.
If in synastry one persons Saturn opposes other persons Moon by 3 deegrees, what happens when in same time is that kind of transit?
Person A than has Saturn return, other has Saturn opposition to his/her Moon.?

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posted July 25, 2007 01:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kindjali     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted July 25, 2007 11:37 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Venus, When I've been Saturn there's always a feeling predatory sexual interest in the 8th house person, esp. when I see them acting out their asc ~ really no explanation for this! Natally mine is conj mars and pluto so that could add to it? BUT I've also noticed that same atmosphere around men who have their saturn in my 8th, but in that situation I often feel like their prey [think little pig and the wolf] and it's uncomfortable [and sometimes scary] cos here I am interacting with someone who I'm certain has no sexual interest in me and then this feeling comes over. It's nothing overt btw, just this atmosphere of the saturn person fixating very quietly and with much concentration on the sexuality of the 8th house person. When it did become overt it seemed as if every time they tried to make their move I was somewhere that I couldnt escape from [as in first kiss being in an elevator ~ haha looking back I thought that was very appropriate]. Again, my experience. ~A

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posted July 27, 2007 02:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kindjali     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hahaha, I have Saturn in 8th house Leo.
My ex told me that she felt something predatory in me when she first met me, felt naked...

K.

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posted August 17, 2007 02:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jenfullmoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Out of my three major relationships, two of them had Saturn contacts. One (off and on for a year and a half) had his birthday four months before mine, so we had conjunct natal Saturns, which sets off/creates synastry with all of my natal Saturn squares. The other (10 months) was 8 years older than me so he had Saturn conjunct my Sun.

And ironically, the guy I was with the longest of all (2 years), and was engaged to, we had NO Saturn ties in synastry or composite whatsoever (he's a Saturn in Virgo). I can't say that was a shallow relationship, or that I didn't learn anything from it.

Lord knows it was already more committed than the other two- one of them refused to really commit anyway and the other one was an Aquarius (nuff said). Mostly I learned from the non-Saturn relationship that a Taurus can't deal with a guy with no work ethic, no education, and NO MONEY, and that getting married is a helluva lot more than just a romantic gesture. Just because he wasn't a workaholic (first guy) or someone whose affections wane at random (second guy) and was actually emotionally committed to me didn't mean jack in the end with regards to marriage.

So..I don't really know what to make of that.

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posted August 22, 2007 09:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venus De Milo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I forgot about this thread... anyone got anything to add?

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posted August 23, 2007 12:45 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have yet to see a long term relationship without a significant saturn aspect, more often than not a hard aspect to a personal planet. This is one of the most consistent astrological facts out there. Saturn is structure, discipline, security, among other things. The inner parent and the ultimate long term and manifesting big picture of anything its involved with.
In looking at aspects though, I wouldnt neglect the so called minor aspects. I know a couple who has been married for a few years who has saturn semisquare sun in synastry as their only saturn aspect and it has worked as glue. I have seen quintiles to saturn work as well, and not in a "minor" way.

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posted August 23, 2007 03:53 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting thread!

I had two serious relationships so far - looked at the synastries and found several Saturn-aspects - not only "nice" ones.

Relationship 1 (lastet 4 years, not living together, shared many interests, mentally very active, many discussions, some power games and competition, but we admired each other and still respect each other today):

Girl's Saturn in boy's 10th house
- conjunct boy's MC (orb: <1)
- opposition boy's Venus (<2)
- square boy's Mars (<2)
- trine boy's Pluto (<3)

Boy's Saturn in girl's 4th house
- trine girl's Mercury (<2)
- quincunx girl's Venus (<2)
- opposition girl's Uranus (<1)

Composite: Saturn in 7th
- square Ceres (<2)

Relationship 2 (lastet 9 years, lived together, shared money and other ressources, deceit occured, not so many private/intellectual interests in common, we let each other roam for him/herself a lot, "caring" for each other in a very practical/material way, which became a burden for me, the girl - I felt bored and trapped over time.)

Girl's Saturn in boy's 10th
- opposite boy's Neptune (<4)
- trine boy's Pluto (<2)

Boy's Saturn in girl's 5th
- square girl's Sun (<2)
- trine girl's Moon (<3)
- square girl's Mars (<4)
- opposition girl's Jupiter (<2)
- quincunx girl's AC (<2)

Composite: Saturn in 8th
- square Sun (<2)
- trine Venus (<1)
- square Juno (<4)
- sextile MC (<2)


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